sunbeam60,

I’m presuming when he says “we” he means the royal “we”, ie “I”. I’m not expecting him to negotiate on it. The next CEO will, though, in a couple of months.

LostCause,

"Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial 'we.'"

  • Mark Twain

Yeah, so which is spez again?

BrerChicken, (edited )

Mr C missed an important one--teachers! But technically I'm talking about us as a class when I do it, so maybe not? We might never know.

velourium_camper,
@velourium_camper@lemmy.world avatar

The tapeworm

kokoapadoa,
kokoapadoa avatar

king. people with tapeworms are actually fairly cool, but kings have historically been rather cruel and unjust.

brownpaperbag, (edited )
brownpaperbag avatar

While that quote has been attributed to Twain (and several others) over the years, there is nothing to suggest that Twain used this particular phrasing nor was he the originator of it. That credit goes to George H Derby, under the pseudonym John Phoenix, back in 1855.

The trifecta of “kings, editors and people with tapeworm” has been widely attributed to Mark Twain, but like so many witticisms credited to him, there’s no record he ever said it. It’s also unlikely that Henry David Thoreau ever made the remark once ascribed to him: “We is used by royalty, editors, pregnant women and people who eat worms.”

Worms, or more specifically tapeworms, figure prominently in we-­related humor. The earliest known joke to combine parasites and pronouns comes from George Horatio Derby, a humorist from California who assumed the pen name John Phoenix. “I do not think I have a tapeworm,” he wrote in 1855, “therefore I have no claim whatever to call myself ‘we,’ and I shall by no means fall into that editorial absurdity.”

New York Times, Ben Zimmer, 2010-10-01

LostCause,

Thanks for the info!

ElectronBadger,
ElectronBadger avatar

You're right. Another source is here: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/13/we/

brownpaperbag,
brownpaperbag avatar

Thanks for sharing that!

VulcanSphere,
VulcanSphere avatar

Yeah, because he is the Lord of Snoo.

Zana,

He called the mods landed gentry, so he literally does view himself as the king.

cthonctic,
cthonctic avatar

As in "You know nothing, Jon Snoo"? :')

Nomecks,

"We" as in Reddit's VC backers.

doctortofu,
doctortofu avatar

The pigheaded doubling- and tripling-down on this is impressive in a way. Let's see in a couple of months how many actual content creators left reddit and came here or somewhere else. I do hope spez is left with an empty site full of lurkers and bots, after all people who actually provided content for free for years leave him in the dust...

Then again, I'm not going back there anyway, so to be completely honest I don't care that much - the fediverse is my new home (even though I'm repulsed by the name).

awh,

the fediverse is my new home (even though I'm repulsed by the name).

The name doesn't bother me as much as not reeealy understanding how it all works together. Like, I know kbin and lemmy are different things, so I'm not sure why kbin is all full of Lemmy content.

I'll have to wait for it to solidify in my brain a little bit more.

BeegYoshi,

you can think of them as different windows into a similar structure. They look different, they'll assemble the data a bit different, and might even send slightly different forms--but they're close enough that it's all legible, all interpretable into their formats.

And kbin and lemmy have very similar formats! But it's possible for mastodon (the twitter analogue) to interact with kbin and lemmy as well. Even though they present the data in a different way, with different sorting criteria for your feed, and different ideas on how subscribing to a community or a person works, at the end of the day the formats are very similar: a parent post with a bunch of comments.

HelixDab,

I can't go back; they banned my account, after 12 years, and a few hundred thousand karma. I like to think that, in some small way, I helped make reddit a better place than it had been. And now I couldn't contribute, even if I wanted to.

But really, why would I want to? The point of contributing to a community is to make it better for everyone. Huffman/spez has made it clear that these contributions are not valued, even though they're the currency that allows them to make money by selling advertisements.

hoilst,

Same. A few years back when there was a big shift to make reddit Social Media™ (which it is not) because that's what gets money from investors they started clamping down on anything non-circlejerky because they were trying to grow subs and promote it as the Happiest Place On The Intarwebs.

joe_archer,

As Louis Rossmann quite rightly points out, nobody has ever gone to war with the internet and won.

NAder43,

You can also check the fortune of business stars.

Oisteink,

And if you happen to be on lemmy this post shows on page 4 of “hot”. No comments and 3 months old.

JuxtaposedJaguar,

Even if you're on Steve's side, that's just a dumb thing to publicly say.

AllonzeeLV,

Steve Huffman giving off serious Kendall vibes.

ArugulaZ,
ArugulaZ avatar

It's not? Well, Paint Hufferman, I'm right here on Kbin along with thousands of others. Evidently, something has changed.

BreakNeckJim,

“The problem with this one is it’s not going to change anything."

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/31ef8c83-138b-4c3a-86be-40f2856778fc.png

anaximander,

Translation: "I support people being able to voice their opinions, as long as it doesn't affect me being able to do whatever I want".

holo_nexus,
holo_nexus avatar

This guy is a founder of Reddit right? One seriously has to wonder what the hell happened. The damage control by Reddit so far has been nothing short of shambolic and in large part because of their treatment of its users.

I mean, it’s like he’s never browsed Reddit before.

Soziele,

Yeah he is one of the founders, but Huffman was always in it more for the profit. Aaron Swartz was the one with the vision, he was an activist and believed in free information. Sadly Swartz committed suicide after being arrested for sharing academic journals from a secured computer at MIT. Federal prosecution decided to make an example of him for multiple felonies.

monkeysuncle,

A small correction: Swartz didn't share the journal articles. There's reasonable doubt on whether he was ever planning on sharing them or not, but he was arrested for the downloading of the articles not the sharing.

BeegYoshi,

and silo'd academia has only gotten 100x worse since then. i can't even imagine how much progress has been lost thanks to greedy academic "journals" keeping anyone from reading their papers, stopping widespread peer review, and destroying scientists' ability to assemble wide bodies of evidence

fred,

Wasnt swartz only there for a brief time after a merger and only really on the masthead. It was mostly Huffman and Alexis that started it in their college dorm. Alexis was def more the vision/community guy and Steve more the coder iirc.

Soziele,

I'd argue that all three of them would still be considered the co-founders considering how early Swartz was brought into the picture. Of the three though he for sure had the smallest impact on what reddit became after its first corporate buyout.

parrot-party,
parrot-party avatar

He's one of the founders but it seems not the smartest of them.

wet_lettuce,

I think the calculus is: they can do it and not lose many users.

They think people leaving won't move the needle or they are so fucked financially they have to take the risk.

I haven't deleted my account, but I haven't looked at reddit since before the blackout. Once rif goes away, I'll likely never go back in any sort of active capacity.

I think they'll feel this one. Maybe not at first but there are lots of old (10+ year) active (serious karma) accounts that are leaving. They'll pull a Twitter and slowly die.

skellener,
skellener avatar

This guy is a real piece of work. I don’t know why anyone would continue using Reddit at this point.

Casmael,

Yeah i left on the 12th and haven’t been back. I’ve only automatically opened Apollo two or three times lol

pasci_lei,
pasci_lei avatar

Did this guy wake up on the wrong foot some time ago?

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, I think he just wants to burn the bridge as he's crossing it.

zahel,

Agreed

Casmael,

Man has 4 left feet and no hands apparently

Nivekk,
Nivekk avatar

"Now if you'll excuse me, my ship and I have an appointment to keep at the bottom of the ocean."

Casmael,

u/spezzypants has an appointment with Davey Jones

OrangeCorvus,
OrangeCorvus avatar

I wish people would cut down with this noise(see what I did there). F him and his platform, coming here and having to read about him everyday, it kinda annoys me.

tojikomori,
tojikomori avatar

It was like this for a few months on Mastodon when Twitter did the same. At least spez doesn't have any kind of celebrity status: I was able to go out with some friends last night and not a single person raised this topic. (A couple of them know what Reddit is, but none of them really use it much. And I'm sure no one in the group other than me knows who its CEO is.)

I just hope we have a good network of people here after this story fizzles out of the news. I'd be happy with kbin never becoming as popular as Reddit, so long as there's a healthy bunch of curious people sharing and discussing interesting links.

Blakerboy777,
Blakerboy777 avatar

I think reddit is more replaceable than Twitter. It seems the stickiness of Twitter has to do with the specific individuals on there. People don't want to leave not because they get news about famous people, but because the actual famous people are on there. And the famous people don't get the same status recognition on other platforms, so they want to stay their too. I can get my news from anywhere, and reddit was just the best tool to facilitate that. Lots of communities used Reddit, but you can build that community other places too, reddit was just a really suitable place to do so.

Bloonface,
Bloonface avatar

I think you've hit the nail on the head a bit, Reddit users were for all intents and purposes anonymous - you'd find usernames you recognise but it's among a sea of thousands of others, and the posts would all blur themselves into one. By and large, you go into a thread on a topic, not because Person X posted it, but because it's a topic you want to read about, and you upvote a comment because you liked it rather than because Person Y posted it.

Twitter is all about who you follow and you curate a follow list that matches what you want to see, and by return you engage with the people who engage with you. If the people who you'd want to follow on a replacement for Twitter aren't there, or nobody can or will engage with you, it's a shitty replacement for Twitter for your purposes. This is especially true with Mastodon, whose model is that you only see posts from the follow lists of people already on your instances, so if it starts off sucky then absent some external force, it stays that way.

Bloonface,
Bloonface avatar

Let's be real, fedi's favourite subject of discussion is itself, and its second favourite subject of discussion is how bad all the sites fedi is supposed to be a replacement for are.

I'm hoping that dies down soon, one of the signs a site is doing well for users is that it stops with the navel-gazing shit.

arefx,

If people posted their own OC instead of reddit threads this place would be dope.

fupuyifi,
fupuyifi avatar

This guy is setting himself up to fund the IPO from authoritarian state sponsored VCs. They're going to be most impressed by his hardline stance

ImplyingImplications,

Reddit being owned by Saudi Arabia and China is a definite possibility.

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