I suspect I'm pretty much the only market for this thing. I can play while in bed, which is where most of switch gaming currently happens. The price is probably reasonable for what it cost them, but they need to explain why anyone besides me would want one.
This thing is terrible, who the fuck is buying shit like this? What a waste of electronic materials. They could’ve made a true handheld with the power of the steam deck that could run PS5 games at lower resolutions, but fuck no! Let’s make some bullshit abomination of a Vita successor and give anyone who loves portable gaming the middle finger, especially since you can’t use Bluetooth headphones. Fuck you Sony.
Portal’s not so bad if you’re happy with just your PlayStation library and simply want something for your bedside stand.
I currently use a retroid pocket 3+ for almost only that purpose, and let me tell you, an 8 inch, 1080p screen + a full dualsense in my hands at night for just $200 seems like a really nice upgrade even if it means leaving my emulators on a different device.
(Too bad for Sony I’ll personally be spending a lot more to have a Steam Deck OLED though) (teehee)
The thing is there are a lot of devices that you can use to stream from you PS5 and also have other functionalities. Like playing games natively, or emulators.
Yeah you’re right, and that’s a big sticking point of the Portal, but I think it’s worth noting that if you want a device that does those things with a screen as large as the Portal’s, you’ll probably be paying way more than $200. And that’s before having anything with the kind of haptic tech as the dualsense.
I have a Steam Deck and I don't even own a PS5, so I'm probably way outside of the market for the Portal...
But I'm really finding it hard imagine this device finding a broad audience, since even in a hypothetical best case we're talking about a subset of a subset of PS5 owners. From what I understand the new PSVR sold pretty badly despite being a pretty solid piece of VR hardware, this feels like a very niche and underwhelming piece of hardware and so I really can't imagine it performing any better.
Someone will buy a PS Portal, and hopefully they like it, but when the smoke clears I don't see it being a big hit.
The Steam Deck OLED on the other hand, I suspect will sell out fast. It seems like there is a pretty big chunk of people who were interested in the first gen Steam Deck but opted for the wait and see approach, and I can imagine a lot of those people jumping on the Steam Deck OLED now that they know the device has lasting power. Personally I probably can't justify the cost of upgrading from the LCD model right now, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to...
Tv with the ps5 is downstairs, wife wants me to hang out and not just watch me play games, I want to game. I grab the portal and sit on the couch next to wife while she watches tv. We all win.
Or it’s so I can talk to her instead of ignoring her…….
I get it, there’s a fancy piece of equipment and you cant find a use for it, so now you insult the people who point out the extremely obvious answer you missed.
I was only trying to be funny, apologies. I thought it was ludicrous enough that it’d pass. Channeling some boomer humour.
Seriously though, I do understand the appeal of it, just not the appeal-to-price ratio. £200 is a lot of money for a glorified screen mirroring device. It’s not that it’s overpriced per se (it’s probably about right in terms of the cost of the hardware), just that I don’t understand how it can be worth it with that functionality at that price point.
I’ll tell you a secret: if you have a steam deck, you have a Playstation portal as well. I beat days gone to platinum on steam deck… By streaming if from a ps4.
You could also get the ayn loki zero for a smiliar price to the playstation portal as well you have an playstation portal that can both play gta v and call of duty emulate ps1 games ontop of streaming your PlayStation 1 games
Yeah, I definitely agree that's it's targeting a niche within a subset. I think we're coming from completely opposite camps, though. I've never had, nor was ever interested in owning a gaming PC. I have some Apple devices for work, a PS5 (and switch) for gaming, and a cheap little android handheld for retro titles -which coincidentally I use to remote play my PS5 from bed almost every night.
For me, adding yet another platform to my ecosystem is kind of annoying, particularly with all the tweaking, tinkering and menuing I won't be able to avoid. But a Deck also means I'll be able to play older windows stuff that either never came to PS or were lost in the PS3 library, and I'll be able to travel with it better, so it's kind of worth it. Plus it'll look really nice when remote-playing my PS5.
Wait until you try the PC ecosystem and realize that it’s where the games are the cheapest (thanks to bundles and Steam sales), where we don’t even need to ask about retro compatibility because it’s not siloed by generation…
Also by far the biggest library because recently console exclusive tend to be exclusive to one console but also ported on PC (except for Nintendo games).
I dont have a TV in my bedroom, but couldn't I set up a system for the same price where I can play all my console or PC games in bed on a full 30+ inch TV if I wanted to? For the same price that is?. It might be an interesting purchase if someone else wanted to be able to use the TV, but if I was buying one for me to play games on while in bed then my partner can gtfo lol. Though I suppose some people might want a more compact solution.
Yeah. I imagine with some savvy shopping you could probably get a 30ish inch TV and a mini PC or Android device to use exclusively for game streaming at a pretty affordable price.
Or tablets. I think there are gamepads and gamepad attachments like that, but probably trash tier quality in comparison. I agree though. They could've combined that with an app based streaming service, but also allow to use it for whatever else you might play on it. Would've actually been much more interesting of a product.
Way better control experience, almost 2x the screen space, separate battery, and like a 5th the cost of a flagship smartphone.
Not for everyone, but still neat. This product makes me wonder if theh have other things in the works. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is something 3 years from now that releases where we say “this is like if the Portal was good”.
Not drain my cell battery or get interrupted from a call or text, have a much bigger screen than a phone, save you from trying to balance a tablet around on a bed or chair or recliner…
Doubt it. The bandwidth needed for VR is pretty high and when people do wireless PCVR setups, the rule of thumb is setting up a nearby fast WiFi 5 router just for the VR connection.
Not only does the functionality seem almost completely unnecessary except for a limited use case here and there, but this thing is truly ugly. Who designed this travesty? How would you even store this bumpy hunk of plastic?
Sony used to have some of the most elegant and clean hardware aesthetics. Their designs were genuinely beautiful, simple, and practical. They used to ooze premium luxury. Now we get a screen with a sawed off controller stuck to the sides? Disappointing.
You know what? I take it back. The PS5 is shaped like a modem from 1999, it deserves this ugly step-cousin.
But it does look like more comfortable to hold than psvita. My hands hurt if I play my vita without a grip, which essentially turns the vita into a boomerang.
I have a PS5 and I just do remote play to my Android tablet with the ps controller connected via Bluetooth and for most games it’s acceptable; there is a little latency so it wouldn’t be good enough for fps games however. I wouldn’t buy this product but if the latency is improved I could see several of my friends getting one of these.
$200 to play a console game on a different screen only within the same network is insane. You could spend $100 more and get a full blown handheld console. This is fucking stupid, Sony.
Yeah, it's the price that bothers me the most about this. For the same amount, you can get a whole Switch Lite.
And I'm still salty about how they treated the Vita. This is what we get as the first handheld successor to the Vita? And the Vita didn't cost much more.
Switch lite is a much smaller screen and also 720 instead of 1080p. So yes, you could spend the same to get a switch lite, but if you don’t plan on buying Nintendo games, why on earth would you? The controller is nowhere near comparable to a ps5 controller and all other aspects of gaming around the house would also be worse.
Buying a PS5 controller is like $80, so at this point you’d be spending another $120 for the nice screen and big battery.
What are you buying for $300? Steam deck is about as cheap as you can get and that’s for $360. It’s also heavier, smaller screen, has a lower quality screen, and will run out of battery quicker.
So if you don’t do pc gaming, why on earth would you want to spend closer to double the price?
You know why you think it’s a stupid product? You either live alone or you still live with mom and dad and have a ps5 in your bedroom. This product isn’t for you, and you’re an idiot for thinking if it’s not something little ol you would want, than no one else must have a use for it, either.
So a smaller screen and to get a good controller that holds a phone, they’re $100, or you can get a crap controller for $50 or less.
Then are you going to be using you current phone that will have your gaming screwed up by calls and text messages? Or your old phone that you have to leave plugged in to use because the battery is shot? Also, how are you enjoying your audio lag because your phone doesn’t have a headphone jack?
Most phones released in the 0ast 5 years have no audio jack, you skipped over answering about the controller. You can’t really play ps5 games with touch controls, and you skipped over how incredibly small your iPhone 6s screen is. All olthat you describe would make for terrible gaming.
I never said the iPhone 6S would be a desired way to play PS5 games what the heck.
I just approached the battery life/charger subject with it.
All olthat you describe would make for terrible gaming.
The PlayStation Portal pretty much needs to excel at this because it is the only thing it can do LMAO
I mean, I think it is nice to see it has a very tiny amount of userbase, but still, handhelds are a niche to begin with (more these days), the Switch only helped to attract attention to them, so this is a niche item in a niche segment, that lacks over many other devices.
I just mentioned the phone because I’m pretty sure it is a device you have very close to you, have you ever heard of the Chinese emulator handhelds? Some are basically just Android phones with controllers built in and jack ports, they can do streaming as well and gaming, those unnoficial alternatives already add more value than the PS Portal, especially for the price.
Intelligence check: Critical fail. A switch is $220 used and can be played on the couch and also on someone else’s couch. Nice projection about living with mom and dad, it cracks me up when people accuse strangers on the internet of things. Proud homeowner of 6 years here, dipshit. Remember the crowd you’re berating on Lemmy, we tend to skew older than those on other cesspits you likely frequent
You realize this is a good product if you live with your parents? You don’t need to hog the TV. Living alone and buying this bullshit, now that’s a stupid decision.
You’d have to take your PS5 with you to use it on trips, so what would be the point? You’d still have to hook up your PS5 and have that running to use it.
This isn’t true. You can remote play from an outside network that is different from the one your PS5 is connected to provided that your PS5 is in rest mode and your connection at both ends is sufficient.
That doesn’t change the fact that it is possible. Also some people have vacation homes, or use airbnbs that have better wifi speeds, or will be willing to pay for faster hotel speeds. It’s totally possible, but yes, your point stands that connection speeds matter and I would lower expectations if you are traveling.
Hopefully we get some deeper in depth reviews out there in the coming weeks. A lot of these reviewers only had the weekend and rushed these out. SpawnPoiint, which actually had a good review, admitted that during his review period he never even ran down the battery once. And according to Tested’s review it only has a 4-5.5 hour battery life. The Verge article is also not the best review compared to some reviews like Tested, who tested this on multiple different connection speeds. Having read/watched most of these reviews, the Verge one seems to be the lowest effort.
It’s not for the kid who has his ps5 in his room, or the single adult who has full access all the time to sit on his living room couch eating cheerios in his underwear. It’s also not for the single guy making his living by reviewing video game junk that comes out in hopes of being paid for what he writes.
It’s for families where mom or dad or sibling wants the TV for other things. So you can go back to the bedroom or den or garage or wherever else that isn’t blasting the 20th straight episode of my little pony and get some game time in.
It’s 200 bucks. Ok. I have a game laptop and a steam deck. I never use the laptop anymore. The steam deck is too quick and easy. Streaming to cell phones gets you a smaller screen, smaller battery, and need to spend $100 on a gaming controller anyhow. You also can’t start up the ps5 and move things along so quickly. Also with phones streaming like this, the gyro isn’t as precise/great to use compared to a ps5 controller. I assume this screen/controller Playstation device works as well as their ps5 controller does.
So yeah. It’s $200 for something that you may be able to do almost as well for free…but it’s not free. It’s based on if you already own hundreds of dollars worth of other things, m9st of which wouldn’t work quite as well.
I have an actual use case for this. It is kind of niche. I don’t personally have kids but I have friends over a lot to watch sports or BBQ or whatever. I have a PS5, a respectable desktop, and a Steam Deck. I prefer the portable option of the Steam Deck or, at worst, streaming to it. I don’t know why but that’s just what I enjoy.
As the kids have gotten older, they really want to play the PS5. But if the football game is on, they cannot have the TV. So, I was using Chiaki to let them stream from the PS5. So, all my PS5 game saves are basically fucked. The younger ones will use up any and all ammo or other in-game supplies and the older ones will make progress and I’ll just be lost next login. But the worst thing is when they exit Chiaki and play my PC version of a game. I specifically tell them not to do that but they aren’t my kids so I can’t backhand them.
So, now we have a solution. A thing like the Steam Deck that is limited to only fucking up PS5 game saves so if I really want to enjoy a game, I can get the Steam version. The kids can go hog wild on the PS5. They can get sticky shit on the PlayStation Portal — and they will if there is one ounce of sugar within 5 miles. My PC is in my office and my Steam Deck is going to be locked up. I’ll actually be able to enjoy a game again. And for only $200.
Dude, the kids must’ve love you. You basically bought a PS5, a PS Portal and a bunch of PS5 games (which usually more expensive than their PC counterparts) and perhaps a PS plus subscription just for your friends’ kids.
I’m definitely the proverbial uncle who works for Nintendo to them. But in reality, I’m a boring, non-Nintendo software engineer who just didn’t want to have kids. I’m not rolling in dough but I could probably buy every video game system ever released and it’d be less than parents spend on day care. A lot of strollers cost more than a PS5.
I have a den where my PlayStation is hooked up to the nice TV. I don’t necessarily always want to be down there to play games, for any number of reasons. Sometimes my wife wants to watch TV while I want to play a game, and this allows us to be in the same room and do that.
Bought in heavy to the PS ecosystem already? Or just prefer it? Don't want to pay the extra $100 or $200 (steam deck)? It's not for me but I could see people doing it.
Thing is, you can get a second hand Switch for about $200-220 as it is. So I really don’t get it. Especially since every console has the ability to share to your phone or tablet already, and there are loads of controllers meant for phones or tablets that are less than $50.
I’m trying to defend here a product I don’t really believe in, so bear with me.
The portal lets you play PS5 games, in PS5-ish quality (-ish because it’s obviously not the same as a 4k TV). The best the switch can do is 7-year-old No Man’s Sky, with no multiplayer. Recent Pokémon and Zelda (first party Nintendo games) can’t even reach a constant 30 FPS in the whole of the game.
I don’t think graphics are THAT important, but I know there are people who think that. And in that case, the PS5+Portal is going to beat a standalone steam deck or a switch. If you have a beefy PC maybe a steam deck can stream in better quality, but if you’re in the PS5 ecosystem it’s the best quality handheld gaming you can achieve.
Would I buy it? Absolutely not. 80% of the fun with my steam deck is taking it places. The airport, the plane, a hotel on a business trip, my partner’s place, the dentist waiting room, the bus/train… All that’s missing with the Portal, but that doesn’t mean I can’t see a (niche) market for it.
Yes, there’s a desire to game away from the sofa, which is why Steam Deck and Nvidia or even a phone with the PS app are all available. I can’t see the need to buy something like when there are better alternatives available for cheaper or even for free.
Remote play runs on just about anything though, you could use a phone, chromecast, computer. I bought a $15 phone mount that hooks onto my PS5 controller and it’s essentially this device, but with the added benefit of using a device with more than one use.
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