Using AI to notify a poster that a post is likely to run afoul of Reddit or community guidelines before posting actually seems like an interesting albeit fraught idea.
If he weren’t so Speztic about everything, I would not feel so confident it was a nefarious plan to hurt people. But he is evil and impulsive, so… fuck Spez.
Yeah, an AI telling you your post will get deleted sounds like a great way to suppress specific information. Political ideas the mods/admins don't like? Pushing back against right-wing hate? Calling out blatant advertising? I can think of lots of ways this will probably be abused to steer conversations into advertiser-friendly topics.
I mean, that's what moderators do anyway. It all comes down to what the rules of a sub are, and those rules are set and enforced by human moderators. I think it'll be interesting to see how it goes with a less capricious AI in the loop.
Yes, to suppress swearing or offensive content, not suppress ideas. You could still talk about a touchy subject by filtering out keywords and using substitutions.
It could search for all kinds of keywords to enforce rules. For example, scan titles to find question identifiers to suggest a user maybe needed to check an FAQ/wiki, or that kind of thing. Find keywords to detect probable off-topics. That sort of stuff.
At the end of the day, is what the LLM bot doing really any different? I'd say it's more sophisticated but the same fundamental thing.
AI moderation is just word and phrase filtering, the latter of which wasn't done earlier because it is really complicated due to the vast number of possible combinations of words and context. It also has the same failure issues as word filtering where it will end up being overly restrictive to the point of hilarity or will soon show that no matter what you filter someone will find a way around it.
I mean, suppose the LLM bot is actually good at avoiding false positives/misunderstandings -- doesn't that simply remove one of the biggest weaknesses of old-fashioned keyword identification? I really just see this as a natural evolution of the technology and not some new, wild thing. It's just an incremental improvement.
What it absolutely does NOT do is replace the need for human judgement. You'll still need an appeals process and a person at the wheel to deal with errors and edge cases. But it's pretty easy to imagine an LLM bot doing at least as well a job as the average volunteer Reddit/Discord mod.
Of course, it's kind of a moot point. Running a full LLM bot, parsing every comment against some custom-design model, as your automoderator would be expensive. I really cannot see it happening routinely, at least not with current tech costs. Maybe in a few years the prices will have come down enough, but not right now.
You guys are twisting yourself in knots about Spez. This isn’t the doing of one person. This is the inevitable conclusion of every business model where you aren’t the paying customer. You are cattle. Kept alive just minimally to be slaughtered and sold to the highest bidder. The advertisers get new features. You are catered to only so much to keep you on the platform, but your comfort will be sacrificed the instant there is profit to be made.
If you make it on a powermod’s shit list, they’ll ban you from every default sub they can because they are petty low lifes. I’d trust AI-powered bots to be more reasonable than those cumstains.
What difference does it make when you have a power tripping CEO PLUS an asinine AI that isn’t held reponsible for decisions?
It’ll be even worse. And trust me, with the way things are being handled, the responsible mods are precisely the ones that are going to be theown under the bus, precisely because they disagree with the power tripping CEO.
The solution is to replace the CEO with someone reaponsible AND to have an effective and responsible moderation board.
What reddit is doing is not finding a solution; they’re just seeking ways to get rid of expensive personnel and maximize their profits.
Well, a lot of people had a false assumption going in. The idea was that reddit was providing a free service hosting mutually interactive forums. Generally, if you’d run a forum, it was your forum, with all the benefits and drawbacks that entails.
Reddit even pretended that was true for a long time.
People thought they were working for themselves and their community.
Honestly, I think this is just spez getting distracted by the latest shiny. Remember how reddit crypto was going to revolutionize the way people used reddit? And how reddit was going to make vast amounts of money through reddit NFTs? Same same.
Didn’t they implement some sort of money for karma feature recently? Like you can make reddit dollaridoos or whatever they are called from your posts which can then translate into US dollars?
It's some weird thing where they'll give you reddit credit or something that you can turn into cash. But you're only eligible if you average like 10 gold a year, and I'm sure they'll have like a minimum withdrawal amount or something, to limit it even further.
Yeah the Reddit avatar collectors had/have an identity around traffic cones to signal to others that they’re part of the cool new investment opportunity. I laughed about it while talking with a casual acquaintance who, apparently was in the club. They stopped coming to gatherings before the holidays this year. Shame is a helluva thing.
It’s incredible that I was on reddit for 13 years or something, daily, maybe I spent 20’000 hours there. Then I dropped after the API fiasco (I’m a SyncPro user) and never went back, I have no clue what’s going on since ~July and I don’t care and I don’t miss it :)
I tried to leave Reddit before but every exodus always had huge DDOS effects on alternatives. Lemmy however has retained a good community after the exodus.
Also the Jerboa app is amazing. Not missing Reddit at all.
I used sync for reddit pro when they announced they were moving to Lemmy. I was looking for a reddit alternative with the API stuff. Now I’m here with the UI I knew and loved, though I wish my pro account transfered over.
Best thing, Voyager’s a webapp/website in an app wrapper, and doesn’t have more invasive permissions than I’d prefer too. And the interface is sleek af. I unfortunately have to use facebook on firefox mobile as well and that is atrocious. Wild.
Might want to give the Orion browser a whirl. It has some support for extensions to make the web less enshittified. I just came across it a week ago and I’ve been quite impressed.
Firefox mobile isn’t atrocious, Facebook’s support for mobile website is. Also, I’m sure Orion is a great browser but it touting itself for the dark web and having a 3.5 rating on the play store didn’t particularly inspire confidence for me.
Ah, I use it in iOS because even Firefox doesn’t support its own extensions. Seems better than any other browser in iOS that I’ve tried. But on Android I’d probably go with Firefox.
Same boat, don’t even have a Reddit account any longer, and I’ve noticed an uptick in content that is login-only, so even more reason to not even visit the site.
Same. I have a very low tolerance for companies that don’t respect their customers/users. I hated New Reddit but fortunately old Reddit was (and is still) available. But thats a shit experience on mobile. And you can’t use RES to make it better.
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