guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

Does anyone know what the implications are for Vanadium?

strawberry,

its just chrome, but if j were used I'd be switching to ff. even it it goes to shit, its open source, so it can always be picked up by the community

orphiebaby,

“…and is now banned in the EU.”

Churbleyimyam,

It’s getting harder to remain compassionate towards people who keep using chrome.

T156,

In some ways, it is unavoidable, because chrome is also embedded in Windows, and the electron framework. You can’t blame someone for using it that way.

victorz,

Are you serious? You can’t be compassionate toward people who use a certain browser? It’s probably because they don’t understand/know/care. 🤷‍♂️ Educate them.

Moneo,

Nuance is dead.

paf0,

Long live nuance.

webghost0101,

People who care make the switch so not sure what there is to feel compassionate about.

Its kinda nice they slowed YouTube down first, that got at least 3 people i know into using firefox, though if i still want to annoy them i could tell them to run a invidius docker instead.

Tomzomodest,

Another beautiful day of ditching chrome for Firefox a long time ago

Marin_Rider,

I used to use the good browser. But then they changed what the good browser was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems weird and scary to me.

ITLL HAPPEN TO YOU

victorz,

Mozilla Phoenix user here. Good old times. Then Firebird came along. Then Firefox… What an odd name change that was, IMO. Firefox. Huh.

Then Chrome came and I jumped on that ship for years until the new revamped Firefox came in 2018, and as it looks nowadays, I won’t ever leave Firefox until it dies of death.

Chrome has a pretty sleek design these days, but my conscience tells me I can’t use it.

I use Chromium for web development (testing purposes only), but I’m not sure if Chromium is any better. At least I’m not signed in to it.

Twitches,

They ditched Phoenix because the bios manufacturer had that copy right. There’s a whole story behind it.

Firefox in China is also known as a red panda

victorz,

Ah, so that’s the reason. I never bothered to find out. Thanks! Only 20 years later or so 😅

Twitches,

Lol I only found out about a month ago. So I’m in the same boat.

moon,

It’s also already built into Google Play Services. Remember this when they claim a monopoly is good for “security” reasons.

prosp3kt,

Security isnt always good. Look DRM.

moon,

Security is a good cop out to justify a lot of bullshit

Draconic_NEO,
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

Indeed it is. Unfortunately though it’s also important enough that it means people will go along with fascist stuff if the “security” excuse is used, and people who stand up to it will be mocked and ridiculed at best, or be accused of being cyber attackers at worst.

zaphod,
@zaphod@lemmy.ca avatar

Amazing how Google and Apple differ on so much, but in this respect they are in total agreement…

yournamehere,

next up: every page requires shitty chrome or login with google.

then the big shrug and all continue using chrome, iphone, amazon and the other evils.

if you are using any of the above YOU are the problem.

thoughts and prayers. wasch mich, aber mach mich nicht nass.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

wasch mich, aber mach mich nicht nass.

From the article…

Literally, “wash me, but don’t get me wet”.

Silentiea,

In star Trek, they use sonic showers.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

I’m just offering the translation, I’m not the one who made the comment. You’ll want to reply to the person that I replied to.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

eww icky also this article is old

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

eww icky also this article is old

by Ron Amadeo - Sep 7, 2023 2:35pm PST

LinusWorks4Mo,
LinusWorks4Mo avatar

I'm totally unable to switch from chrome, the chrome icon is really the only one that works, all others are just too hard to see

RealPuyo,

Just… change the shortcut icon???

raspberriesareyummy,

pretty sure that’s a /whoosh

chiliedogg,

I love Firefox when it works, but half the time it can’t access any sites while Chrome does. It’s like Firefox can’t see the network.

TheEighthDoctor,

Very rarely I face a website I can’t open on Firefox because it’s not compatible but half the time is surely a gross exaggeration

chiliedogg,

I don’t mean half the websites don’t work. I mean half the time Firefox won’t load ANYTHING. It basically stops working with any DNS for a few hours at a time.

wewbull,

DNS is an operating system level service. Your computer is screwed, not the browser.

Chrome might be fixing it up by using Google DNS behind your back.

Trainguyrom,

Firefox uses its own internal cert database which could create a similar effect.

Firefox supports DNS over HTTPs or a similar protocol that escapes my memory at the moment which could very well mess with its ability to handle DNS

Krauerking,

I have had this issue a few times and find that usually there is some weird update or something behind the scenes and a reboot of Firefox lets it start loading again. I’m not techy enough to know why but I have found that closing all tabs is mandatory maintenance for Firefox every so often.

hornedfiend,

Netscape Navigator has the same issue!

RalfWausE,

I think that depends heavily on the pages one might frequent.

Most of the time i comfortably get by using netsurf…

Toldry,
@Toldry@lemmy.world avatar

The main reason I haven’t switch to Firefox is that it doesn’t have a “tab group” feature nearly as functional, polishedg and usable as Chrome’s.

iamtherealwalrus,

So convience over privacy, got it. That is pretty much what made Facebook rise to fame.

mods_are_assholes,

Then you don’t take your personal data security seriously.

Anyone who trades security for convenience deserves neither.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’m not sure that quote is especially helpful. We trade security for convenience all the time - if things were too secure, we wouldn’t be able to do anything with our computers.

lolcatnip,

How dare you have a different opinion! This is Lemmy!

kzhe,

Maybe try Vivaldi? Chromium?

Toldry,
@Toldry@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the suggestion, I haven’t heard of Vivaldi before

SomeGuy69,

September news?

Trainguyrom,

Wake me up when September ends?

mellowheat,

Seems like a quick hop to chrome://flags allows one to disable this. chrome://flags/#privacy-sandbox-ads-apis

Ads aren’t evil though. They are the main method of making people know about new things. Intrusive and privacy-defeating tracking is.

miss_brainfarts,

And nowadays, most online ads are intrusive and privacy-defeating tracking, so you know

mellowheat, (edited )

Yes, absolutely. As far as I can tell, Privacy Sandbox could help with that.

AnAngryAlpaca,

You know what really helps for privacy? Adblockers.

Trainguyrom,

The big problem with Privacy Sandbox is who is implementing it. I was on the fence about it for similar reasons until I saw who came out against it. Mozilla, the EFF, etc. all heavily condemned it, so I knew it was safe to say its bad (limited time, unlimited desire for knowledge and all I did not have the time to do a deep dive on Google’s newest way to get people okay with invasive tracking)

LdyMeow,

I’m really confused, everyone seems pissed about this, but if you understand what they are up to, it actually is a very privacy focused way to allow for interest based ads. Like I get if you understand that and feel like all interest based ads are evil, sure. But at the same time the ‘free web’ is built on advertising. Nobody is offering an alternative.

Eggyhead,
Eggyhead avatar

Advertising existed fine before the tracking part became an entitlement.

nevemsenki,

What’s with Lemmy and reposting really old things?

MashedTech,

This is the Internet Explorer of forums.

DannyMac,
@DannyMac@lemmy.world avatar

Well, it’s OP’s fault, unless it’s a bot.

nevemsenki,

For sure. I more mean it happens a lot, so probably that’s the kind of crowd that is/was attracted here? Or we have a lot of bots.

Draedron,

I would ask “Whats with Lemmy and telling people what software to use?”. I am all in favour of being aware of the pros and cons but let people decide for themselves once they are aware.

adhdplantdev,

Duck duck go has become a pretty good viable alternative to google using it full time now.

fine_sandy_bottom,

kagi

TheEighthDoctor,

I use it for everything except maps, there is no real alternative to Google maps as far as I know

Krauerking,

Maps

Which is getting worse now too.
It now searches “related” locations to what you searched for to show you more bought ads for locations instead of what you looked for originally. Get ready for the slow crawl of enshitification of maps now too.

OfficerBribe,

Their maps are pretty bad, there are better alternatives although it can depend on your region. Navigation and POI search wise though they still seem the best to me.

cheese_greater,

Magic Earth is neat

TheEighthDoctor,

I will check it but I doubt it will be as good for a rural european city as Google maps is.

Trainguyrom,

Have you tried open street map? The geography nerds building that have a surprisingly up to date and high quality map of the rural midwestern region I live in so you might be pleasantly surprised

ohshazbot,

It’s just dressed up bing, it’s also going downhill

Trainguyrom,

Bing has gotten surprisingly good recently though?

blattrules,

I’ve been using it as my main search engine for around a year now. I accidentally used google today to look up “best screwdriver sets” and the results were all ads instead of results with screwdriver set reviews. I put the same thing in DuckDuckGo and immediately got relevant results.

Jarix,

Googled the pirate bay and it wouldnt.

Unless the first link after a link to the wiki, www. piratebayorg.org is the correct place to go…

Duckduckgo first result was the correct result

Leg,

Odd. I just tried to google “pirate bay” and the top result was correct. Personalized results?

Jarix,

Must be

lolcatnip,

37 upvotes for a completely off-topic comment. Yay!

adhdplantdev,

Interest of avoiding Google’s ad platform which is arguably more invasive you should use a browser in search engine that is not developed by Google thus use duck duck go. I mean it’s at least tangentially related.

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