wtf is that bullshit. interning is basically required experience in some fields (engineering especially). companies will usually pay for your housing and food even
This is why I fucking hate government grants to corporations. These assholes never put in safeguards to actually force these jackass companies to actually use it as intended.
Although I understand the sentiment, the instrument under which the funding has been granted is called NEVI and has pretty strict requirements about what gets built (150kW rated, payment terminal equipped charging stations along major roads) as well as transparency requirements about reliability.
Looking at the several billion dollars that we gave the telecommunication companies over the last two decades for “nation wide high speed fiber infrastructure,” I would say the answer is not only yes, but we will keep giving them more money for the same damn thing.
I’m OK with grants for certain things/times/whatever. But it seems like if the owner is worth billions and comes to the gov’t for a handout, the gov’t should just tax them correctly and say,“No you.”
Infrastructure should be public anyways, so instead of giving grants to private for profit companies, it would instead use that money to just fund the infrastructure.
Incredibly speculative, but this could also be Elon’s Saudi investors’ plan to blow up the EV market in America. If the charging infrastructure becomes unreliable, it kills the entire market.
I doubt it actually. My guess is they got the tesla charger adopted for all US electric cars, so now they can just be greedy and have others build infrastructure instead of them. They can invest nothing and still get chargers made for them now. Why would we expect Tesla to continue spending money now?
Chargers earn reliable income? They even selll subscriptions. I have no idea whether they are profitable or not but there’s no reason this couldn’t be a nice steady income indefinitely
Just to be clear, Toyota has been making these claims for quite a while now. Until they making examples we can purchase and verify, I’m going to continue filing these claims under “vaporware”.
Yes, Toyota is using these announcements to dissuade customers from going electric while they continue to sell only ice and hybrid vehicles. Remember that Toyota came out with the Prius 20 years ago and have done nothing since.
The PS5, and yeah still unreleased, but already driving prototypes out in the wild. They are using the companys tech mentioned in the article and hopefully we’ll see widespread adoption after testing.
I’m usually sceptic, but for once these new battery inventions are actually already implemented, and not just on paper or in a lab.
Stealing this from a comment on the restera threaad
Internally employees left at Tesla are calling this the “Snap”. My friend was building over 10 new sites and breaking ground on 3 others. Contractors are getting fucked and have no one to contact. Overnight 100’s of sites with 100’s of contractors, design companies and suppliers working on them are just in limbo with not a single person from Tesla reaching out to them and their contact laid off. Lots of layoffs are going to be tied to this.
Not only does this affect the building of new sites there’s now not a single employee that can perform maintenance at any of these locations.
This is going to cascade across many companies and industries. Because this is basically taking a massive infrastructure effort and suddenly cutting off the management and production of specialized hardware.
And, tinfoil, but this very much feels like an attempt to steal the election for republicans. Because this is going to impact the infrastructure efforts of the Biden administration AND cause a lot of layoffs among blue collar workers when they can’t send invoices or get paid because everyone they knew got fired. And you can bet there will be a social media shitstorm over “Biden is trying to steal money from my company” if there is any attempt to recoup the money that is being put into a giant reward package for musk.
Or, if you’re trying to make it more directly comparable to 17 million (because humans aren’t great at implicitly comparing that many zeros), that would be 56,000 millions. It’s not how we normally say it, but 17 vs 56,000 feels different than 17 million vs 56 billion.
Most of us have no intuition about millions of anything let alone billions, same as we have a good handle on seconds and days and years but start talking about nanoseconds or centuries and most of us have completely lost any meaningful frame of reference.
At least the charging network. We can buy it off Tesla no problem (we already have them a $17 million down payment).
Then start printing up new stickers to cover the Tesla logos.
I don’t even own an EV and I support funding this. It’s probably cheaper than the existing charger network plan anyway and would allow actually standardizing around the smaller smarter Tesla plugs too.
And, tinfoil, but this very much feels like an attempt to steal the election for republicans. Because this is going to impact the infrastructure efforts of the Biden administration AND cause a lot of layoffs among blue collar workers when they can’t send invoices or get paid because everyone they knew got fired.
There was a time when I could have thought that level of calculation of Musk. That time is long since gone. His mouth cost him $44 billion when he was forced to buy twitter because of his edgy comments online. Musk’s recent comments about the firings were his version of the criteria of “excellent, necessary, and trustworthy” and did not, apparently include the entire Supercharger team. Any outside observer would say the Supercharger team is absolutely “excellent, necessary, and trustworthy”.
This latest action by Musk just reeks like a mania episode with a good dose of paranoia mixed it. I don’t think it has anything to do with the election.
I was holding stock specifically to be able to vote Musk out, but this latest move was the last straw. I sold what I had after the announcement yesterday. Its already down $5/share lower than when I sold mine yesterday.
Yup. Even the twitter stupidity makes a lot more sense if his “friends” were egging him on to destroy one of the most useful tools out there for activists to coordinate and information to spread outside of state outlets.
Same way Candace Owen used to hang around with Kanye and all of a sudden he started saying all his racist shit out loud. It was always there based on some inside stories, but theres a corealtion with his worse public decisions and her influence.
Yeah a lot of recent musk has seemed like a manic state and paranoia. He’s reported to have been doing a lot more drugs lately. So that would probably make sense
No executive deserves the kind of money and power he is demanding. The workers deserve it. Executive positions must become democratically elected from within the workforce, exclusively, modestly compensated, with checks and balances, for limited terms representing the company workforce.
He is broke. He spent his money on a website, immediately crash and burned it, and interestingly wants the purchase value back as pay from Tesla’s board.
He seems to have gotten a lot worse lately, obviously he’s always been a jackass and narcissistic. But up until recently most of his business decisions have been mostly rational. From the accounts I’ve read he has gotten rid of most of if not all of his competent advisors and has been doing a lot more drugs. I think what we are seeing here is an extended manic state, brought on by a lack of stability/stress, some underlying psychological issues, and a whole bunch of drugs.
Oh and just in case people think I’m defending him. I hate that fucker. I just think it is much more complicated than simple incompetency.
I said somewhere that I believe Tesla as a csr manufacturer is fucked but they light pivot into being a charging company and battery provider, it seems big brain musket is hellbent on ruining the good parts of his company too
I haven’t seen anyone actually describe what this “team” is.
Tesla’s PR teams said that they’re still expanding the network, but at a slower pace. If that’s the case, I assume this mostly guts the product and program management folks, and the goal is to consolidate this department with a related department.
Does anyone actually have details about the full scope of layoffs and the scope of who remains?
That’s the crazy thing. He is letting the entire division go instead of just replacing the head he might have had a problem with. So now the good workers and the bad workers if there are such, are all being flushed out of the Tesla toilet.
Internally employees left at Tesla are calling this the “Snap”. My friend was building over 10 new sites and breaking ground on 3 others. Contractors are getting fucked and have no one to contact. Overnight 100’s of sites with 100’s of contractors, design companies and suppliers working on them are just in limbo with not a single person from Tesla reaching out to them and their contact laid off. Lots of layoffs are going to be tied to this.
Not only does this affect the building of new sites there’s now not a single employee that can perform maintenance at any of these locations.
“Two sources told Electrek that Tinucci was fighting back pressure from Musk to fire a bigger percentage of her team, and the CEO decided to let go of the entire team as an example.”
Which, even if it went directly into his pocket, doesn’t even move the needle for him.
Like another poster said, his goals are more likely politically aligned. He wants EV infrastructure to fail to show libtards are squandering tax money. Self fulfilling prophecy and all that.
Why the tesla board hasn’t sent him packing yet is beyond me. There must be some golden parachute clause that would be very expensive, but he’s doing massive harm to their brand that it must be worth it to cut him loose at this point.
Edit - I also think this ego maniac is sabotaging his own charging infrastructure simply because the government passed a bill (IIRC) that requires the charging stations be accessible to any EV. Not that it needs to provide the connectors on-site - other EV drivers will need to bring their own adapters. Simply that the payment system allows non-tesla owners to use it.
Why the tesla board hasn’t sent him packing yet is beyond me. There must be some golden parachute clause that would be very expensive, but he’s doing massive harm to their brand that it must be worth it to cut him loose at this point.
He’s stacked the board with his friends and family. They’re not going to raise the chance of it themselves.
Our only chance is/was actions by activist investors. I suppose I would have been considered one of those until yesterday when I sold.
Why the tesla board hasn’t sent him packing yet is beyond me.
His board is full of friends, family, and other sycophants.
Shareholders won’t vote Elon out because he is sadly the one reason its so highly valued, and if he goes, the stock price does with it. They won’t do anything until the company is on fire, and its not yet.
Given that yesterday’s layoff news did nothing to the stock price, we’re getting there.
We the shareholders trust Musk completely. He is, after all, a genius.
Nah, I’m playing! Only thing I ever had shares of was the ex wife, and I wasn’t even aware she was publicly traded until I accidentally dropped in on a shareholder meeting. I gave mine away. :p
To give you an idea of who is on the tesla board of directors, it includes Kimbal Musk, his brother, and James Murdoch, of the Murdoch family you’re probably thinking of. Musk himself owns something like 20% of the company, the board owns some, his cult members also have some share. The rest of the shareholders are either institutional or retail investors who are some combination of not willing to rock the boat, don’t have enough voting power, and/or just don’t care.
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