Here’s an actual answer to a … let’s see … four day old post:
Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out.
Specifically, they’re finding out that using people in Gaza as meat shields only works as a deterrent when you don’t perform massive raids into Israel.
Now the only hope they have of not getting their shit kicked in permanently is utilizing propaganda networks to get “useful idiots” (that’s the actual, technical term used in intelligence communities) to put outside pressure on Israel to not hunt down each Hamas member individually.
That’s the gory, ugly reality of the situation in Gaza. While the civilians in Gaza are absolutely being victimized it’s hard not to blame the organization using them as human shields.
Imma be completely honest and say that Iran probably won’t do anything except maybe throw some cruise missiles from afar that hit some random outpost or send a drone because they don’t want to risk anything.
I’d love to see a competent air force take on the IAF, but I don’t think anyone in the middle east actually has one besides Israel and the USA’s own bases.
According to chatgpt, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, and Qatar have modern air forces, and countries not listed might still have them. It says Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria don’t have one (also Libya so take with the usual grain of salt because that’s in North Africa and not even bordering the region like Egypt and Turkey).
Here’s yesterday’s UN release regarding discussion of the event. “In the ensuing discussion, many delegations asserted that any attack on diplomatic and consular premises violates the Charter of the United Nations as well as the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. They also expressed grave concern that such an incident could further intensify the regional conflict.”
Then the usual countries supported/condemned Israel, but even those supporting Israel didn’t say it was ok to bomb embassies.
Yes. Largely by the same countries who also insist Israel is conducting their war legally, but I won’t try to say their points are bad. I agree with criticizing Iran, but bombing embassies is not ok by international agreement. If rules of war only apply when convenient then they are useless, diplomatic immunity is a thing and consulates are not supposed to be targets of war.
Also, switch countries - imagine if North Korea bombed the US embassy in South Korea and killed visiting Pentagon generals. The outrage would be immense and it’s unlikely the world would accept the justification that North and South Korea are “technically at war” with each other and the US opposes North Korea.
I’ll remind you that north Korea is viewed more favorably in the UN than Israel if you go by number of condemnations annually. I’m talking pre oct 7th here.
Is that meant as a defense of Israel or…? What am I supposed to take from that aside from Israel should stop doing unethical things so regularly that even North Korea doesn’t get reprimanded as often? I’ll remind you in turn that North Korea didn’t -actually- bomb an embassy (so a condemnation wouldn’t make sense) - feel free to swap the countries in my comment to whichever you want. That was an analogy to showcase how if it wasn’t America’s lovechild breaking international law no one would even consider justifying it. It was also a direct rebuttal to your prior “they’re technically at war so it’s ok” argument. Israel actually did bomb an embassy of one country within the borders of another country.
This is what countries with nukes can do to countries without nukes. Thankfully no jihadistic countries have them yet, but Israel sure is giving them good reasons to get some.
You get the shorter version of the answer I gave to the other person. The longer version might be relevant later.
If Israel is committing genocide (which is not), it's the worst implementation of such policy. They could kill hundreds of thousands of people in a few days, and that never happened.
Also, you conveniently forgot to mention Hamas' massacres on October 7th. That's the only reason for the ground invasion.
The ones in power sure are. They’re literally on a genocide spree right now killing tens of thousands of civilians indiscriminately for the crime of not being born Jewish.
It's clear to me, based on what you've said, that you know nothing about Israelis (Arab and Jews), Jewish culture and history, Israeli politics (foreign and internal) and Middle East geopolitics.
How come you write with such confidence about something you know nothing about?
If Israel is committing genocide (which is not), it's the worst implementation of such policy. They could kill hundreds of thousands of people in a few days, and that never happened.
Also, you conveniently forgot to mention Hamas' massacres on October 7th. That's the only reason for the ground invasion.
Why would anyone pay me? I'm just a random guy on the internet.
Do you get paid per argument?
All the things I've mentioned are relevant. Many people are talking out of their asses without knowing anything about this conflict. They don't make the minimum effort to learn the basic things, they just follow the mob and reuse their words without understanding any of it. Some Israelis do it, some westerners do it, some arabs do it.
And all of these useful idiots are being manipulated by Islamists, radical left people, white supremacists.
If Israel is committing genocide (which is not), it's the worst implementation of such policy. They could kill hundreds of thousands of people in a few days, and that never happened.
This is also relevant to you. You haven't established any knowledge about any of those issues.
It's clear to me, based on what you've said, that you know nothing about Israelis (Arab and Jews), Jewish culture and history, Israeli politics (foreign and internal) and Middle East geopolitics.
It is correct that 2 wrongs doesn't make a right. And you still haven't demonstrated that there are massacres or a genocide in Gaza committed by the IDF.
the attack on Oct 7 does not give anyone the right to commit their own massacre or genocide.
Excuse me, can you even read? Please cite a direct quote from the ICJ ruling that clearly states that Israel is committing a genocide. Can you do it? Of course not, because they never did.
You are still avoiding addressing this point.
You haven't established any knowledge about any of those issues.
It's clear to me, based on what you've said, that you know nothing about Israelis (Arab and Jews), Jewish culture and history, Israeli politics (foreign and internal) and Middle East geopolitics.
So the count ruling that it appears to be a genocide and to stop doing the genocidal acts while we continue the case isn’t proof enough? What would you need?
I’m asking you what your qualifications are to say no one can talk about the area
Dude they want plausible deniability, they want to have no responsibility in doing so. It’s pretty obvious what Israels goal is and has been for the last decades. Steal land, just look at the west bank or even a map.
You’ve been brainwashed by your own government to support Israel in it’s crime spree.
This is also relevant to you. You haven't established any knowledge about any of those issues.
It's clear to me, based on what you've said, that you know nothing about Israelis (Arab and Jews), Jewish culture and history, Israeli politics (foreign and internal) and Middle East geopolitics.
You are spewing out nonsense based on a false narrative. If you want to establish common ground based on actual facts, you are more than welcome.
It’s pretty obvious what Israels goal is and has been for the last decades. Steal land, just look at the west bank or even a map.
I’m fine with criticizing both, and agree there are no “good guys”. Iran is not some paragon of virtue, but then we’re finding out that few nations actually are - even those that loudly claim they are.
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