U.S. signs off on more bombs, warplanes for Israel

The Biden administration in recent days quietly authorized the transfer of billions of dollars in bombs and fighter jets to Israel despite Washington’s concerns about an anticipated military offensive in southern Gaza that could threaten the lives of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians.

The new arms packages include more than 1,800 MK84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK82 500-pound bombs, according to Pentagon and State Department officials familiar with the matter. The 2,000 pound bombs have been linked to previous mass-casualty events throughout Israel’s military campaign in Gaza. These officials, like some others, spoke to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity because recent authorizations have not been disclosed publicly.

The 2,000 pound bombs, capable of leveling city blocks and leaving craters in the earth 40 feet across and larger, are almost never used anymore by Western militaries in densely populated locations due to the risk of civilian casualties.

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livus,
livus avatar

For reference the US only dropped one 2,000 pound bomb on Isis in Raqqa. and analysts are saying no one has been bombed this hard since Vietnam.

mlg, (edited )
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

This is more kt worth of explosives than what I have virtually dropped in over 2000 hours of war thunder mixed battles over 5 years

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/82b5157f-eb06-4072-b1fe-5d882d830763.png

spoiler- 1,800 (2,000 lbs) MK84s = 3,600,000 lbs of ordnance - 500 (500 lbs) MK82 = 250,000 lbs of ordnance = 3,850,000 lbs of ordnance being sent to Israel- My most common WT CAS load out: F-86-25 with 2x 1,000lbs AN-M65A1s = 2,000lbs total per flight - Total ground targets destroyed = 1683 - Assuming worst efficiency of each 2,000 lbs load only destroying one target, 1683 * 2,000 = 3,366,000 lbs of videogame ordnance dropped in 2000 hours of gameplayYeah this is totally fine

livus,
livus avatar

It's apparently a lot more than a Western nation would drop on a built up area.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Eighteen hundred 2000 pound bombs!

Genocide Joe wants every last Palestinian in refugee camps blown to bits!

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

He seems to want that more than a second term in office.

Linkerbaan, (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Even the libs have accepted at this point Biden can’t even do worse than Trump when it comes to supporting this Genocide. As Biden is 100% all in on Genociding every last Palestinian.

Now they’ve given up and talk about the differences in domestic policies. You can have Genocide with abortion and trans rights!

livus,
livus avatar

Poorly worded comment from you here, or at least I hope it's poorly worded.

Linkerbaan, (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Will adjust it for better wording. Intended to show the pinkwashing of the Genocide.

livus,
livus avatar

Ah.

DmMacniel,

Trans Rights are human rights!

Hyperreality, (edited )

Agreed.

I think the mask slipped for a moment, given the person you're replying to often echoes Russian propaganda and seemingly wants Trump to win the US election.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Palestinian right to exist >>>>> “social construct” trans rights

And there is no competition

FreudianCafe,

No bro, he sanctioned 7 settlers, he is against genocide bro

livus,
livus avatar

He's now walked back those sanctions because Israel threatened to financially punish Palestinians in retaliation.

MrVilliam,

Threatening collective punishment to sway political action? That sounds an awful lot like a two-fer. An exquisite entree of genocide paired with a lovely glass of terrorism.

The America that Americans are taught that America is would’ve bombed the everloving fuck out of Israel right now. I truly cannot understand why the fuck we’re still helping Israel right now. I must be a clueless dumb fuck because I see zero upside and a shitload of blowback for this, and I don’t exactly have an Ivy League J.D.

livus, (edited )
livus avatar

I think there's a short-term upside (maintaining their hegemony foothold in the middle east, fuelling the arms dealing economy) with a long-term downside (accelerated erosion of US soft power, globally).

Unfortunately those in power have an "apres moi la deluge" approach.

MrVilliam,

Of course there’s a French phrase for this lol.

This is definitely the case. When presidents and congresspeople are in their 70s and older, it’s pretty foolish to believe that they’re trying to leave a decent country to their adult grandchildren. Late stage capitalism will find the breaking point for this strategy in the private sector, hopefully before the public sector finds the line where nukes are flying everywhere.

Etterra,

Why stop a genocide in Ukraine when you can assist with one in Palestine? Sigh…

Mongostein,

How do these transfers actually work? Does anyone actually know? There’s no way it’s just “Israel asks, Biden delivers next week.”

Linkerbaan, (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The 100 secret arms transfers from Biden to israel went rather quickly. Almost one shipment per day.

For this new order israel is probably going to get the bombs and planes over a few shipments, but they will be sure not to run out. Seeing the speed of the last few shipments israel might already start seeing the first bombs next week.

Mongostein,

Ok, so your link goes nowhere and that didn’t answer my question.

Canada didn’t stop sending arms to Saudi Arabia when that whole thing came up a couple years ago because of a contract put in place by a different government 15 years prior.

I’m asking what the process is. America was sending weapons to Israel looooooooooong before Biden, so saying Biden instead of America sure makes it seem like you have an agenda. There’s gotta be records for these sort of transactions.

Linkerbaan, (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

That’s weird link embedding seems broken. Here’s the link seperately www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/06/israel-weapons-sales-loophole

It literally says Biden personally bypassed everything to secretly send bombs to israel.

The current arms sale should be blocked because israel is committing war crimes. What Biden is doing is literally illegal.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

That’s interesting… 8 posts further up i just saw this

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7fb2960d-a196-4a2d-9ed9-d9a72b49fe72.png

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Biden will sacrifice America for israel

Daft_ish,

$hocked I tell you. $hocked.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Well that’ll do wonders for turnout.

GlassHalfHopeful, (edited )
@GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca avatar

Fuck Biden. Fuck Netanyahu. Fuck Hamas.

PosadistPotatofish,

Both sides brainrot detected

eskimofry,

At some point a lot of people impacted by U.S. foreign actions decide the U.S.A needs to be punished and hence you see a lot of people turning against Biden. Electing the orange clown dooms the U.S so they will stop fucking with the rest of the world.

Count042,

Is this a game of one is not like the others?

Because one or those three hasn’t tried to commit genocide.

Dreizehn,
Dreizehn avatar

How Does Genocide Happen? There's a thread a few scrolls above this one with the exact question.

The brothers, Isaac and Ishmael, need to end their stupid family feud and make peace.

PosadistPotatofish,

What lack of material analysis does to a mf

This isn’t a war between Muslims and Jews over religion, and to dismiss it as that is asinine. This is a settler-colonial genocide with remarkable parallels to the US’s genocide against First Nations in the 17 and 1800s

ReallyKinda,

Right? The vast majority of religious people believe in ‘the god of Abraham,’ why can’t they get along?

OurToothbrush,

Settler colonialism.

PosadistPotatofish,

What lack of material analysis does to a mf

This isn’t a war between Muslims and Jews over religion, and to dismiss it as that is asinine. This is a settler-colonial genocide with remarkable parallels to the US’s genocide against First Nations in the 17 and 1800s

Maggoty, (edited )

For the record Biden is now doing this against the will of the American people. We want this war stopped. Also, these deliveries are illegal under the Leahy Law. It does not matter if congress appropriated money and authorized them, the Leahy law will not release the weapons if there are credible accusations of war crimes. Which is why the State Department is brazenly claiming there’s no evidence.

They are fully counting on American’s distaste of Trump to get Biden re-elected at this point. We need to show them that’s not a blank check.

Blumpkinhead,

We need to show them that’s not a blank check.

How do we do that?

Maggoty,

Don’t vote.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

For Biden.

Vote 3rd party because it’s more insulting lol

andyburke,
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