Hamishcampbell, 1 year ago

@mookie @spreadmastodon @davidslifka @tchambers

On one hand it's a good project, on the other hand it's a deeply problematic #NGO project that is pushing damage as much as good.

Would be useful to take a moment, in good faith, to balance these hands.

It is obviously BAD non-native #openweb behaver to PUSH this over the #Fediverse without wider REAL input.

This is a problem #mainstreaming brings with it that we need to try and do better. Ideas please https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/a-place-to-talk-about-spreadmastodon-org-and-wider-issues-that-this-brings-up/3130/3

witchescauldron, 1 year ago

@dimitrisk @davidslifka
" decentralize is for the fediverse to succeed."

By decentralizing at its core, it is important to not do the obvious #NGO thing and centralize round one codebase and one instances, this is so obviously a stupid thing to do for the #Fediverse and the #openweb, but as you say it's a good thing to do for #mainstreaming so let's talk balance BEFORE you push this out as damage.
So everyone is clear and responsible for their actions, in public #4opens

Hamishcampbell, 1 year ago

@rabble

Then there are a whole flood of #NGO funded projects that have no community.

Might be useful to see it as we're having a "KING" problem, then the rest are feudalism all the way down. This should be easy to fix as its #4opens and all #openweb, but it's not. Just about everyone is hard #BLOCKING the obvuse need for "democracy" as a path out of the mess #OGB

How is the NOSTR world doing on this :)

Hamishcampbell, 1 year ago

@rabble one of the problems you guys have is the whole #BITCOIN think is poison for a lot of people, this will limit the #openweb growth and push the project into the #encryptions paths. You need to keep the bridge in place to the #Fediverse, so these two paths can keep communicating, with this, if mastodon keeps going down the #NGO path some people will jump ship over this bridge. Or the other way :)

hamishcampbell, 1 year ago

@andypiper @fedidevs @fedidevs

Have you noticed this is exactly what the 5-year-old https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ is about - can you explain what this new space adds please?

Hope you can help, as It's hard to see this #nothingnew #blocking #NGO