Have been looking at #dat again, do you think we can build this:
The Open Media Network is a trust based, human moderated, #4opens project that builds a database shared across many peers (both #p2p and server). The project is more important for what it DOES NOT DO, than what it does do, using technology to build human networks. There are ONLY 5 main functions:
• Publish (object to a stream of objects) – to publish an object (text, image, link)
• Subscribe (to a stream of objects) – to a person or organization, a page, a group, a hashtag subject etc.
• Moderate (stream or object) – you can say I like/dislike (push/pull or yes/no) this etc you can comment.
• Rollback (stream) – you can remove from your flow (instance database) untrusted historical content by publishing flow/source/tag.
• Edit (meta data of object/stream) – you can edit the metadata in any site/instance/app you have a login on.
We would build in the moderation tools of the #Fediverse.
This is the back-end of the project to build a #DIY trust based, grassroots, semantic web. The front-end may be anything you like, for example regional-/city-/subject-based #indymedia sites to a distributed archiving project #makeinghistory
The data cauldron and the golden ladle. The technology we call the #WitchesCaldron.
#NGIForum23 The is no way to edit or remove questions. The is no way to talk to anyone... A normal #NGI "trust" #4opens fail, except this time it is a hardcoded due to the use of this CMS for the event. Before this we used #FOSS with #BBB which worked well, then #dotcons silos that worked after a fight each time to get chat turned on, now we are here #blocking, every #EU tech event has pushed this "control" mess over the public. What are you guys in "control" going to do to stop this.
@subMedia I wonder what this instance is running on... and how it's funded ongoing, the lack of transparency on this is a troubling, but also normal with #fahernista activism... would prefer to have a way to find this out #4opens if at all possible.
If you want to take your data when this instance closes down, "You can request an archive of your posts and uploaded media. The exported data will be in the ActivityPub format, readable by any compliant software. You can request an archive every 7 days." do this now #modteam#4opens
@rooftopaxx@nedhamson the is no shutdown date yet, we are still consulting #4opens but as you say I don't think this instance has the focus or community to stay online.
you can see the money coming out here, but this is mostly only to cover the mastodon instances, as the OVH servers have been paid out of historic foundation funding that has now run out.
The first part is about democracy, the second part is hard politics, and is more nasty.
The #fedivers was booted up on grassroot #openweb passion and crowed funding, it was sustained in the early growth by crowed funding and expanded (in an often not helpful way) by #geekproblem passion. Over the last 2 years we have seen this shift sharply to “institutional” funding, some of this has been behind the seanes “think-tanks/academia” but over the last years the #EU though #NGI and more specifically #NGIzero have taken a central role in funding just about all fedivers #mainstreaming projects and much background technology.
In this, we have moved from meany 1000’s of people shaping the direction in a radically #4opens transparent way to handfuls of people controlling the levers of influence in a more opaque process. This is a clear and very obvues failing of #openweb governance, kinda normal and very obvuesly fail.
Now the wider #NGI project pour funding directly down the drain, which is a normal outcome so not an issue for us as the money is wasted anyway. #NGIzero are doing good, they are funding grassroots #openweb technology, so they are people we should work with.
How do we start to mediate this issue “In this we have moved from meany 1000’s of people shaping the direction in a transparent way to handfuls of people controlling the levers of influence in a more opaque process” And more importantly rebalance the #mainstreaming agenda that flows with this funding https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens/wiki/Funding-of-openweb-projects this second part is a BIG problem, this first part is about democracy, the second part is hard politics, and is more nasty.
There will be lots of VERY bad behaver from the every side in this #openweb reboot, let’s try and keep diversity of voices in place with #4opens process. Please don’t become a prat, as it’s easy to start, and it’s hard to stop, mess and more mess.
Prat ish behaver comes in waves, that matches the waves of #mainstreaming and the Alt reaction to them, this flotsam can make things messy so good to shovel and compost.
Our main #blocking in alts is from our blinded #postmodernists and the culture they have spread for the last ten years… this is very messy and will do damage. As this is a form of “common sense” it’s hard to compost.
On the subject of the mailing list, It's hard to understand where/what/why. People forget to communicate the social understanding, this shrinks down the group, I don't know what it means, why it matters and what agender are being pushed there. It's my subject, so I should be interested, this is obtusely a problem for #4opens communication. i.e. a mess :)
I think #4opens is the path, in this we do have to say NO to the "police". How this works is based on "trust" and firm foundations, and yes our #activertypub only has a skeleton foundation, a good one but needs much more support, the event is for laying this support into the ground as foundations to build on.
In the #fediverse today and the #openweb in general our #fashionista are peeking prat, would be good if we could push away from this mess makeing #4opens
Resource use is an issue with the #mastodon codebase, it's not a #block on using it but is an issue to think about using a different #activertypub codebase instead.
With Mastodon going down the #ngo path and wedded to feudalism as "governance" we also face these common issues for tech projects.
The power to Silence accounts, or whole domains of them, is as necessary as the power to Unfollow or Unsubscribe. They're all ways we curate our own social media experiences, avoiding digital pollution like spam, flooding, angry rants, dogpiles, etc.
@witchescauldron ^^^ This is our admin. You'll find him living and boating across Europe. He upholds and embodies the #4opens and #4freedoms of #foss and of a platform where anyone is welcome to #communicate and find a common ground, with #leftists.
He is not able to continue to keep our server alive beyond 8 Oct without some donations, or funding. We are willing, as a web developer and programmer to work on any project you want (non CAGEMAFIA) in exchange for a donation to help #activism.
The undeclared war on #4opens is becoming "common sense" on the #fediverse with the shift to #mainstreaming this is back to the mess we were stepping away from with our #openweb reboot.
We all know the "free software" vs. the corporate "open source" split. But if the last years showed something it is that only using "freedom" as a fundamental principle isn't doing enough, it's just too limited.
If we want our communities to build software for a "common good" we might need to start thinking about other fundamental values and reframe "FLOSS" into something more goal oriented.
We need to integrate ideas of inclusion and environmentalism, about harm reduction and overcoming internalized colonialism that have shaped so many projects and communities (including to a degree the fediverse).
"Freedom" always sounds good and useful but it's just not enough, it's not tangible enough, to open for being captured by right wing narratives.
#GitHub should make issues and discussions disabled by default when creating a new project. #FOSS doesn't mean it comes with support or warranty (and all OSS licenses explicitly state that it doesn't) and you shouldn't expect individual developers (and especially newcomers that don't know what features and why they should disable) moderate communities around their projects, help everyone with everything, and fix all reported issues.