Sominemo, to telegram
@Sominemo@collar.place avatar

Telegram Demands All Bot Developers to Sell Paid Features Using Its New Currency

Telegram is sending out messages to bot developers, requiring them to start accepting payments for digital goods only through Telegram API in "Stars" currency. They explain this decision was made due to pressure from Apple.

Worst part that has nothing to do with Apple — all payouts will be done in TON cryptocurrency. And some other iffy decisions.

You can read my coverage here:
https://tginfo.me/telegram-stars-en/

insiderua, to telegram Ukrainian
@insiderua@social.kyiv.dcomm.net.ua avatar

❌ Телеграм – болото, в якому зав'язли українці.

Їх ламають, й вони часто безпорадні.

У нас на https://nadiyno.org/ навала запитів щодо зламів #Telegram

#cybersecurity #digitalsecurity

rek2, to telegram
@rek2@hispagatos.space avatar

fuck why people think is secure? beats me, but here watch minute 7:16 https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=pjseaH7eX44 and STOP using telegram and whatsup!! :D use matrix or at least signal if your friends need something easy to use but matrix is the way.

phryk,
@phryk@mastodon.social avatar
Yishay, to Signal
@Yishay@chai.kibbutz.gay avatar

so tired of app. How can I criticize it when I’ve never used it I would like to use it. I would like to use it very much. However I don’t own a smart phone. Which means I can’t register a desktop app which intern means I can’t use signal as even trying to create a virtual I machine running, android to download the mobile app to register my desktop app. Which failed. I don’t care how much you improve it until you’re actually inclusive. Signal is not a good app. You might also want to think about who are the people they don’t have access to their own smart phone. Think about other ways for users to register without a smart phone please. (running macos desktop)

@signalapp

eliasr,

@Yishay yes, that's a big downside with Signal and something I really hope they will improve. In addition to people who don't have a smartphone, there are also people who use a different smartphone than iOS or Android, like various GNU-like #MobileLinux variants, for them Signal is also difficult to use.

I avoid iOS and Android phones for privacy reasons. Signal is supposed to be good for privacy, then it should work to easily register an account without iOS or Android.

@signalapp @Mer__edith

Yishay,
@Yishay@chai.kibbutz.gay avatar

@signalapp @Mer__edith
thank you everyone! what i have learned with your help about #signal #signalapp

  1. the signal company does not like poor people to have access to good cryptography tools. many people who do not have smart phones are not as privileged as western developers.
  2. lack of support for operating systems that are outside of the corporate two (iOS and Android). again lack of diversity makes signal lass available to those outside the mainstream.
  3. Signalapp does not support clients that are not made by signal. again reduces the accessibility to those outside the mainstream.
    if you care about secure communications i would think that you would care to have it available for all and not just those with more resources. adding the ability to not need a smartphone to use signal would make it accessible and much more secure. right now the easiest workaround is to borrow some ones smartphone. not so secure.

all the posts about how signal is so amazing read very tone def when many cant use it.
@eliasr @ti @nieral @tzafrir

simon, to telegram
@simon@fosstodon.org avatar

Something tells me aren't dealing with their telegraph problem. Most spam i'm receiving lately contains these links. I don't even know if there's a way to report them.

ncoca, to telegram
@ncoca@social.coop avatar

So...apparently it's time to quit #Slack & #Telegram? Soon I'm basically going to be just here and on #Signal.

frog_reborn,
@frog_reborn@mstdn.social avatar

@ncoca

Matrix is cool, too.

ncoca,
@ncoca@social.coop avatar

@frog_reborn @chunshek I wish I could get some groups I'm part of to switch over to Matrix or Mattermost from Telegram or Slack.

finestructure, to beeper
@finestructure@mastodon.social avatar

I've used #Beeper for several weeks now across #Discord, #Slack, #Whatsapp, #Signal, #Telegram and it's been a great improvement to the messaging mess:

• I've actually had an easier time keeping up with Slack than in Slack itself
• Initially I ran clients side by side but Beeper updates just as fast and I've since stopped running most except for Discord which I use for calls
• Even so, it's great to run it in parallel to Discord, because it's easier to text chat in Beeper while in a video call

pepicrft,
@pepicrft@mastodon.social avatar

@finestructure I’ll give it to you try again 🙂

finestructure,
@finestructure@mastodon.social avatar

Another huge plus of Beeper is that when you set it up on a new machine that’s a •single• login to get all your chats set up.

Just saved me faffin about with 5 service logins to get everything up and running 👌

#Beeper #Discord #Slack #Whatsapp #Signal #Telegram

nikita, to Signal German
@nikita@social.tchncs.de avatar
mez, to telegram
@mez@mastodon.nz avatar

I have telegram because it was really easy to set up a bot and a bash script to send messages to it-basically my own little notifications app. But it’s also the only thing I use telegram for. What’s a good alternative? Free and open source preferred. Self hosting as well

#telegram #FOSS #SelfHosting

chebra,
@chebra@mstdn.io avatar

@mez Matrix account is even easier to get (no phone number needed) and just as easy to write a bot - I'm just writing a bash script doing a little magic that my client app failed to do. And it can be completely self-hosted, including the push notification server (gotify or ntfy)

mez,
@mez@mastodon.nz avatar

@chebra Does this mean hosting an entire Matrix setup? I’ve been curious if something like Matrix would work, but don’t understand the system well enough.

br00t4c, to telegram
@br00t4c@mastodon.social avatar

Telegram CEO calls out rival Signal, claiming it has ties to US government

https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2024/05/14/telegram_ceo_calls_out_rival/

signalappnl, to Signal Dutch
@signalappnl@mastodon.social avatar
kuketzblog, to telegram German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

Der Messenger ist für eine sichere Kommunikation nicht geeignet - standardmäßig sind die Nachrichten nicht einmal Ende-zu-Ende verschlüsselt. Besser geeignet sind oder . Übrigens: Elon Musk ist das Paradebeispiel eines Trolls. Einfach ignorieren. 😉

Wer eine Entscheidungshilfe für einen Messenger sucht: https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html

kuketzblog,
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar
kubikpixel,
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

@kuketzblog @Nake ja sehe ich auch so aber des weiteren ist dieser alte englische Artikel noch aufschlussreich was Telegram und deren Sicherheit angeht:

👉 https://words.filippo.io/dispatches/telegram-ecdh/

blindcoder, to telegram German
@blindcoder@toot.berlin avatar

Mein Favorit ist ja immer noch Conversations, habe aber nebenbei immer noch Telegram benutzt. Warum? Es ist in FDroid erhaeltlich, Signal nicht.

Wenn Elon Musk jetzt gegen Signal hetzt und Telegram favorisiert, sollte ich doch mal Signal installieren.

Xiong_Shui,
@Xiong_Shui@toot.berlin avatar

@blindcoder
Wir nutzen seit längerem , Ende zu Ende verschlüsselt, leicht zu installieren und zuverlässig...
@kuketzblog

kuketzblog,
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

@Xiong_Shui @blindcoder Session ist ein Fork von Signal, der dazu auch noch das Verschlüsselungsprotokoll abschwächt und unter anderem Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) entfernt hat.

moellus, to Signal German
@moellus@wandzeitung.xyz avatar

„Das Ziel scheint zu sein, Aktivisten dazu zu bringen, von dem verschlüsselten Signal zu dem meist unverschlüsselten Telegram zu wechseln.“ https://winfuture.de/news,142780.html /via @WinFuture

jens,
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de avatar

@moellus @WinFuture Musk is psyops.

alecm, to Signal

“Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure, with assistance from Elon Musk” | @matthew_d_green

> Pavel Durov, the CEO of Telegram, has recently been making a big conspiracy push to promote Telegram as more secure than Signal. This is like promoting ketchup as better for your car than synthetic motor oil. Telegram isn’t a secure messenger, full stop. That’s a choice Durov made.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1789687898863792453.html

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