Trying out Gnus is a humbling experience that also provides a perspective on why people might not want to deal with Emacs, preferring alternative editors: it is not immediately obvious that overcoming a steep learning curve would bring benefits compared to an easier solution (like using a different news client). I just want to read my RSS feed, presented in a concise, elegant fashion, I don't want to battle with an UI that might've made sense back in the modem era
ok, since I am still waiting for my Usenet account (via solene), my first attempt at gnus-ing my emacs is via nnhackernews.
Since hackernews is already threaded, it works charmingly well.
Dickmao made a twitter backend for nus, so perhaps I will be able to find an activitypub one? One thing I don't like about Mastodon is the general idea - a flow of posts, all with hidden hierarchy. Having this in a threaded UI would make it a million times better. Maybe one day :)
Yesterday, I had to attach quite a couple of pictures in an email in message (#gnus#emacs). UI-wise, this is really terrible, because there seems to be no way to select a couple of files and tell message to just attach them. Instead, for each file, you have to select the attachment type and decide if you want to specify an attachment title. This is no fun for >10 files. Does any emacs aficionado know of a better (easier, quicker) way to do this? @emacs
And what's with that ". That variable is saved in the ‘.newsrc.eld’ file, and shouldn’t be messed with manually—unless you really want to"? What is this? Inttellij?!
Big thanks to @yeti who catched me posting a test message on a newsgroup using Gnus and helped me setting it up properly. 🎉 I can now read not only newsgroups from two different servers, but also my email (using Fastmail IMAP). I'm still scared about Gnus, but I think it is a worthy goal to come to grips with it. :ox:
I'm happy there's renewed activity around Usenet, such as a new management committee and group maintenance to remove obsolete groups and create new ones.
I use #gnus as a client. It's great so far. I pitty the fool who uses web tools for everything, as those remove so much usability.
reading old threads is great. So much of modern tools push "new" things
I failed to find any active groups. There are posts here (freebsd.annouce) and there (start trek new episode discussion), but when they said usenet is a dessert they may have been right
somehow the most recently active group I found was about Trump. I know internet hates him, but really?
So it looks like an exercise in Internet archaeology.
Jeg bruger #Emacs til at skrive tekst i. Drama, artikler osv., og jeg er vild med det. Jeg nyder eww når jeg skal slå noget op på nettet, uden at forlade interfacet helt. Jeg gad virkelig godt lære at bruge Emacs til emails også, men jeg kan ikke greje hvordan jeg får det sat op og får det til at køre. Har forsøgt et par gange med #GNUS og #Notmuch men jeg ved ikke hvad jeg skal forvente.
Er der mon nogen på #dkfedi der kan hjælpe? Eller som kender til en begynder venlig artikel?
A while ago I had to use a Windows machine at work, and of course the first thing I did was install #Emacs on it. Most things worked surprisingly well, but I couldn't get #Mu4e to work. I also tried #NotMuch and #Mew, but I also failed to either install them or compile them.
At the end I tried #Gnus, and everything worked out of the box. I didn't even need to install any GNU utility.
Gnus is not the prettiest, and its terminology and configuration is confusing. But it is incredibly versatile.
It has worked very nicely as an Email email client, specially to manage mailing lists. But now I also use it for things like Reddit and Hackernews.
What are your experiences with Emacs mail clients under Windows? Is anyone using something other than Gnus?
It's surprising to me that #Emacs gained the capacity for threads years ago, but nothing seems to use them. In particular, #Gnus blocks Emacs for minutes at a time when downloading e-mails...
Again, I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, since Emacs has had lots of development in recent years. But it would be nice if the threading capability were used, especially in the only place that lack of threading is noticeable to me.