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SchwarzeLocke

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Hier ohne Schloss. Vielleicht schreibe ich unter https://ohai.social/@athalis mehr.

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kernellogger, to linux
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Jeremy Allison writes:

'" The data shows that “frozen” vendor kernels, created by branching off a release point and then using a team of engineers to select specific patches to back-port to that branch, are buggier than the upstream “stable” Linux created by Greg Kroah-Hartman. '"

https://ciq.com/blog/why-a-frozen-linux-kernel-isnt-the-safest-choice-for-security/

SchwarzeLocke,
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@kernellogger @pid_eins My impression, having more of an outside perspective and working with higher level languages: should deprecations perhaps always be gated with a config flag, perhaps even a common one similar to BROKEN?

With Java/Scala, it's always quite clear for me where deprecated methods are used. Also I can have builds fail due to that or not, so that I notice new deprecations when building / in CI.

kernellogger, to linux
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A question for experts on bisecting the :

Assume someone runs into a regression when updating from 6.1.90[1] to 6.6.30 that needs bisecting. What do you suggest:

  • Check manually which mainline release (e.g. 6.2, 6.3, ...) introduced the problem and afterwards bisect between that and the previous release.

  • Bisect straight between 6.1 and 6.6.30.

1/ I guess I would definitely go for…

[1] let's assume that 6.1 was fine for this scenario to keep things simpler

SchwarzeLocke,
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@kernellogger I would always avoid bisecting between two different stable series. The linear history of stable is very different from mainline, which also has a lot more commits. Effectively git bisect would spend most of the time outside of the linear commits of the stable series.

First, I would go down to see if the regression came in via mainline or via stable, by testing 6.1.0 and 6.6.0, and then bisect between those. As optimization, I would do the first steps manually, i.e. 6.4.0.

SchwarzeLocke,
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@kernellogger ah, I thought you meant "anywhere from 6.1.x" with "6.1", but meant what I mean with "6.1.0": what was released by Linus, not anything from stable.

Yeah in that case both of your original points work; from a git perspective (tooling) not really a difference.

I would still do the releases manually, to avoid commits from the merge window / early RC, as these might have other/unrelated issues, which got fixed in a later RC.

SchwarzeLocke,
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@kernellogger If you want to describe that in the documentation:

Once you provided both a good and a bad version for git bisect, it will checkout automatically a commit in between. You don't have to test this commit: you may want to manually checkout a closer release tag, to avoid running into unrelated problems which got resolved after the merge window.

suvuk, to random German
@suvuk@social.tchncs.de avatar

Moin ☀️

SchwarzeLocke,
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@suvuk @dewomser ich meine, es heißt nur "gekennzeichnete Bereiche", nicht "gekennzeichnete Raucherbereiche" :blobcatthink:

kernellogger, to linux
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6.8-rc6 is out: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=whZ=iA6DhijePcW-pJjZ8YD4T5qLpLKVSUT+4gWNm_0sA@mail.gmail.com/

"'"Another week, another rc. Nothing here really stands out.

[…] there's more here than I would really like at this point in the release.

So this may end up being one of those releases that get an rc8. We'll see. […]

I'm clearly not ready to make that "do we do an rc8" decision right now. I'll give it another week until I have to make that decision.

Linus"'"

SchwarzeLocke,
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@kernellogger As Linus mentioned regressions, I wanted to look at the current list of regressions. I googled "regzbot" and landed on [1], I also looked at [2] as it is linked prominently. I would have expected a link to the web interface [3] on either page on the top (in the introduction or TLDR), but had to scroll & read quite a bit to get to the link. So, I suggest to mention the web interface earlier.

[1] https://docs.kernel.org/process/handling-regressions.html
[2] https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/reporting-regressions.html
[3] https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/regzbot/mainline/

kernellogger, to linux
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Linus reminds people that in the scope of the it is not a regression if "'"some random test now behaves differently"'", as "'"the "no regressions" rule is about users"'": https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-%3Dwg8BrZEzjJ5kUyZzHPZmFqH6ooMN1gRBCofxxCfucgjaw@mail.gmail.com/

SchwarzeLocke,
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@kernellogger
@einfachnurmark

/me googelt "PEBKAC"
/me fragt sich, warum "layer 8 issue" im entsprechenden englischen Wikipediaartikel so weit unten in der Liste von Beispielen ist, und warum er so viele andere Beispiele nicht kennt

SchwarzeLocke, to random
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@apps minor UI : I notice that the markdown rendering does not exclude usernames, seems wrong like in this case where a username has underscores.

https://subversive.zone/

[Edit: I'm still on 3.26.0, as the recent release it not yet live on f-driod]

SchwarzeLocke,
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@apps also, the link is not rendered as a link and is not clickable

SchwarzeLocke, to random
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@apps a minor bug : when editing a draft and only changing an image description, the change is not saved. It does not ask if it should be saved or not. Workaround: add and remove a space in the text, to trigger the notification and be able to save.

I'm on version 3.24.1 from f-droid.

apps, to random
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When replying, you might want sometimes to have a second look at links or media.
We added the ability to open media or any hyper links when composing (in replies at the top).
Then just go back (With the close/back button) to keep writing.

SchwarzeLocke,
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@apps oh wow, that was fast :blobcataww:

SchwarzeLocke, to random
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@apps it seems you are actively developing again, so I'd like to quickly mention a feature request, that I hope shouldn't be too much work: show media, when writing a reply.

Current example, happens to me occasionally: I am replying and refer to a graphic. I need to lookup / validate details from that graphic, save as draft, open post, go back to draft. Pictures related.

I think I also had cases, where I wanted to check a link in the original post, or at least see the preview.

Me writing a reply to that post (media not visible).

SchwarzeLocke,
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@apps I love you implemented this. Simple, and I already used it a lot :blobcathearts:

kernellogger, to linux
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In case anyone wonders: Linus apparently is using on his machine:

"[…] it boots for me, with selinux enabled. Not that I tested any actual selinux functionality outside of my normal desktop being active […]"

https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-%3Dwi5CQiZ5GbN6%2BL4704uekH4PR308Zo%2BEMnDxL-re-xvgg@mail.gmail.com/

SchwarzeLocke,
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@kernellogger I'm not sure if you can imply he is usually using based on that mail.

In the previous mail he wrote:

"Anyway, I guess I should test this, but here is that untested patch if
you want to consider it."

So he might have enabled it just to test his patch?

scy, (edited ) to music
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Do you listen to while ?

SchwarzeLocke,
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@scy In between "(almost) always" and "sometimes". I (almost) always start with , but at the end of an album I often continue without, as I don't want to distract myself with choosing the next artists / album

SwiftOnSecurity, to random

I have, a number of times now, joined a P1/P2 incident bridge, and helped fix it from curiosity.
I observe for a bit and gently push them to establish basic facts of their assumptions. I’m not even a party to the problem. Failure is interesting.
And suddenly things start moving…

SchwarzeLocke,
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@SwiftOnSecurity yesterday I noticed how bad Stack Overflow can be.

I googled for something like "how to debug systemd service failing", got some posts with that title and general problem.

I expected to get some answers that would show some config flags to increase logging, how to strace it (and what additional settings are needed for that), how to use coredumpctl, etc.

All I got were accepted answers like "in your case error 123 means you need the foo setting and start service bar" m(

organicmaps, to random
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Only a few understood the last question correctly. It was about x86 or x86_64 Android devices on Intel/AMD processors…

SchwarzeLocke,
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@organicmaps As there are still answers coming in, maybe edit the question? E.g. add "If so" before the second question.

organicmaps, to random
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We are looking for volunteers to help us in different areas. A lot of interesting and challenging work 💪 awaits on the open-source, community-built road to the best, fastest 🚀, easy-to-use 👴👵🧒, and privacy-focused maps.

If we get enough money, we can significantly speed up the development by hiring a full-time team and rewarding the most active contributors. If we get more users, we get more donations. Donate and spread the word 💸!

Let's call it Organic Crowdfunding 💰
https://organicmaps.app/news/2023-09-30/organic-maps-crowdfunding-and-september-update/

Ruler (Helicopter Routing)

SchwarzeLocke,
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@organicmaps looking forward to the ruler! I often start a route with a few rough points, to see how long it and an alternative would be. Especially when I'm placing many points or a very long distance, the recalculations between adding each pin are unnecessary, so this will speed it up :blobcataww:

apps, (edited ) to random
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Recently, we spent a lot of time improving the UI and UX for messages. We have to admit that we are not satisfied.
We thought to ask the help of a professional UX/UI designer through a funding dedicated to that project.
Before going further, we need your feedback. Thank you.

SchwarzeLocke,
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@apps For me personally it is fine, but I voted yes as I do see some potential for improvement, and some changes might be good to reach/retain a wider audience. On my dayjob I work with professional UI/UX designers. Its good to have someone to talk through various alternatives, and they often have some new ideas I haven't thought of. So I hope that can help you make better; and I wish you don't take away features for power users.

malwaretech, to random

Anyone know what software is used to make these kinds of graphs?

image/png
image/png

SchwarzeLocke,
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@malwaretech the second and third look like yEd https://www.yworks.com/products/yed#samples

malwaretech, to random

My friend is great at gifts

SchwarzeLocke,
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@malwaretech I've read "gifs" and were waiting for it :blobgasp:

apps, (edited ) to random
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Would you like that the app highlights changes when checking edited messages?

SchwarzeLocke,
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@apps thanks for picking this up :ablobcatheart:

https://toot.fedilab.app/@apps/110971231714460146

pcopfer, to random German
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@leah hat mich am Wochenende auf das wunderbare Diff Feature bei @Tusky hingewiesen. Wenn man bei einem Bearbeiteten Toot auf den Text "Bearbeitet am" klickt (Bild 1), dann bekommt man angezeigt was sich verändert hat (Bild 2).

Screenshot eines Toot in Tusky in der Diff Ansicht. Der Text des Toot ist zweimal untereinander dargestellt, im Oberen ist Rot markiert der Entfernte Inhalt und Grün Markiert der Hinzugefügte Inhalt. Im Fall des gezeigten Toot, würde die Zahl 650 durch "rund 500" und die Zahl 42 durch 23 ersetzt. Unten steht der originale Toot.

SchwarzeLocke,
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@pcopfer oh I'd love to see such a diff between edits in too, it's always hard to spot the differences /cc @apps

bagder, (edited ) to random
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A user is rude and DEMAND a change to your project, but after lots of back-and-forth a slightly different improvement is landed. Should the person get credit for their "report"?

SchwarzeLocke,
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@bagder Yes, but maybe indirectly, like "inspired by discussion with xyz in issue 1234” or the like.

byteborg, to random German
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Hat gerade eine in ihrem Backend für die Paketverfolgung?

SchwarzeLocke,
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@byteborg ich hatte die Woche auch eins von , das war mal da und mal nicht.

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