elduvelle

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@jasonkoebler so weird

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@neuralreckoning @briansimulator isn’t it possible to get a list of papers that use it? That should show that it’s pretty “notable”…

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@carla that’s fine of course, the advantage is that there would still be all the other distributions.
I like many things about windows and would prefer to use a non-profit, user-respecting version of it if it existed.

elduvelle, 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

@Corb_The_Lesser @dirkdierickx Yeah, they could have a different enough GUI to not get sued (what’s the limit though? Anyway that’s not that important) but what would matter is that it would have the same functionalities. Can you sue over shared functions, if it’s coded in a different way? I don’t think so right?

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@ASP hmm, I agree that what you say at least partly explains why so many more people use Windows than linux, but that doesn’t explain why there’s not at least one existing Linux distribution that mimics Windows as much as possible.
Also, the problem with Linux is not just that it’s hard to switch from your old habits - it’s also that Linux is harder to use. Personally, I found switching from Win to MacOS quite easy, even feeling nice in some aspects; but switching from Win to Linux was a constant struggle.

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@geillescas because it could make 70% of users switch to linux instead of the current… 3%

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@deltatux it’s both, and also just the general tediousness of getting anything done on linux because I don’t know the shortcuts. I also wrote a quick list there https://neuromatch.social/@elduvelle/112244187699065839 - but that’s not really the point…

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@locha I doubt that the ~70% of people who use windows (compared to 3% or so using linux) would prefer a “linux-y” option to a “window-y” option. Especially if by “linux-y” you mean using command line instructions. The large majority of these people don’t even know what the command line is.
@mezz

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@locha yes.. oh so you meant that the people who tried these Windows-like distributions and ended up abandoning them were all prior Linux users? I thought we were talking about “average people” so most of them would be Windows users.
@mezz

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@jonny it wouldn’t need to disrupt anything, as it would be a separate distribution, right? Previous linux users could keep using the distribution they want.

Your point about the programmers not seeing the need for this definitely makes sense. They’re probably not, or reluctantly, using Windows, they are probably extra-comfortable with a bunch of Linux distributions already, and they probably love doing things the command-line way. Since Linux is not there to make money there is almost no incentive to make a Windows-like distribution from the ones who would have the skills to make one.

I would have thought that attracting a substantially larger set of users would be a goal in itself, either to gain visibility, or even ethically to give people an alternative to the Big Brother companies. But maybe that’s not enough!

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@locha Is it on Win 11? I hate it… when you see the direction Windows is taking that’s also why I wish there was an easy to switch to Linux alternative..
@mezz

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@carla time… I waste so much time doing even minor things in Linux. That’s mostly because I’m used to the windows way of things of course. But also some things don’t work as easily on Linux (I tried Ubuntu). I made a quick and incomplete list there: https://neuromatch.social/@elduvelle/112244187699065839

I’d just want a Linux distribution that works like Windows so there is no learning curve involved to use it.

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@deltatux thanks for the long answer. Don’t worry about those problems I had - I’m not using Linux anymore.

Yes, definitely, the two system are very different. Still, given the versatility of Linux, it should be possible to make a distribution of it that acts like Windows.. for me the main problems with windows are that it’s funding a giant corporation and that they’re trying to spy on you more and more, for example forcing you to log in with your microsoft account in Win 11 or forcing their fake AI stuff on you. Other than these kind of things, I like the way it works and I would love to use a Linux version of it that has the good aspects without the bad ones. But it looks like that’s not really possible..

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@dirkdierickx you could… but more than 70% of computers don’t use MacOS, they use Windows. Clearly the large majority of people prefer Windows. I thought that one of the goals of Linux was to be used by more people. So why isn’t there at least one distribution of Linux that is exactly like Windows?

Still, I agree: why not also extend the question to MacOS, there are also more computers with MacOS than with Linux so why isn’t there one distribution that mimics MacOS? They’re both Unix based right, so it should be even easier to make it?

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@stirlock 😔🤗

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@mrspaghetti magnificent!!

elduvelle, 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

… and coming back!
#Eclipse #NewHampshire

2/2

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@jerzone that’s a great photo!!

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@DrPsyBuffy beautiful! looks just like the moon!

elduvelle, 1 month ago

@steve nice!! Hope you’ll livestream it or something :)