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killyourfm

@killyourfm@layer8.space

Currently: Musician and geek who's happily satisfying his inner child. Also Community Engagement Manager for https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird.

Formerly: Linux For Everyone, Forbes, AMD.

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@gamingonlinux Can you recommend any newer games that have canned benchmarks AND have FSR?

killyourfm,
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@FartsMusically @gamingonlinux OH YES, great call on Cyberpunk. with all the optimizations they did last year, that's a perfect title for my testing. Thank you

killyourfm,
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@thelinuxEXP @gamingonlinux Ahhh thanks Nick.

killyourfm, to linux
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What kind of power consumption tests would you like to see across and various distros?

Some ideas I have so far:

1: Proprietary vs : Outlook vs Thunderbird, MS Word vs @libreoffice Writer, etc. (Have more pairs to suggest?)

2: Power savings when at native 4K versus using AMD FSR.

3: Idle/Load power usage of KDE, GNOME, Xfce, MATE, etc.

4: Power usage across various form factors (Tower/Desktop PC vs Laptop vs )

YOUR IDEAS HERE 👇

killyourfm,
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@mschfr Excellent idea!

killyourfm, to linux
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If everyone had to install 11 themselves from scratch, they would absolutely switch to .

Jesus, this takes FOREVER.

killyourfm,
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@FartsMusically It's a better installer, technically. But the amount of upselling for various Microsoft services and Windows options is borderline absurd now.

killyourfm,
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@FartsMusically @xerz In a slightly altered timeline, that cash cow is Valve.

killyourfm,
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@syn Yea, that little fact is seriously terrible. It must have generated so much e-waste.

killyourfm,
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And apparently Windows 11 makes it even more frustrating to dual-boot with .

In my experience anyway, both and couldn't see my PC's Wifi module until I booted into Windows 11, enabled Hibernation, and then disabled Fast Startup.

???

killyourfm,
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@writeblankspace Is this a widely known issue? I'm just wondering if new Linux users might need to hear this.

killyourfm,
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@AdamBishop @writeblankspace I just had no clue it was so hidden in Windows 11. (Having to go into CMD and enable Hibernate first).

I could be wrong.

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@mroy I tried that, no dice.

killyourfm, to random
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Over the next few weeks, I'm going to TRY to accurately measure my power consumption doing daily work tasks on my big tower PC, the Steam Deck, and the HP Dev One laptop. (Using a Kill-A-Watt P3).

ALSO? Gaming power consumption comparisons between my desktop PC & the Xbox Series X, both at 4K resolution.

I expect it will be an eye-opening experience and I'll never turn on my tower again.

This will undoubtedly branch off into all kinds of software testing too. YES, I'll record & share data...

killyourfm,
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@trezzer FASCINATING. Standby as in idle, or standby as in sleep?

killyourfm,
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@darth @trezzer No no, I don't mind spoilers. It's good to compare data!

That's almost 3x the power consumption of Steam Deck under max load...

Darth, are you using a Kill-A-Watt? Measuring power at the wall?

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@darth @trezzer Would you be so kind as to start a doc somewhere or shoot me an email with some of your findings?

It's for a future L4E Episode ;-)

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I ran some power consumption tests on 11, measuring from the wall.

My system: Ryzen 9 3900X, Radeon RX 6800 XT, 32GB RAM.

1% CPU utilization (Idle): 67W

5% CPU + 10% GPU (Streaming with Plex): 130W

Dirt 5 Benchmark (4K, High Preset, Uncapped FPS): 431W

Dirt 5 Benchmark (4K, High Preset, 60FPS Cap): 355W

Dirt 5 Benchmark (1440p, High Preset, 60FPS) Cap) : 288W

The power savings gained JUST from capping FPS to 60 is more than 2x the total power of a under heavy load.

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@trezzer @darth Just so I have some background, do you have access to Windows + Linux on your desktop and laptop?

Having Windows isn't really that important, but I'm absolutely doing comparative testing ;-)

killyourfm,
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@vsaw This is JUST the PC! (I can only measure one input on the Kill-a-Watt)

killyourfm,
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@vsaw Huh. that's a fairly simple solution I hadn't thought about!

killyourfm,
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@vsaw True, true. And what I'm really trying to capture is the power consumption differences between operating systems, form factors, and eventually proprietary vs open-source software.

killyourfm,
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I'll repeat the same tests with 38 tomorrow.

What I'm beginning is a journey to capture the power consumption differences between operating systems, form factors, and eventually, proprietary vs open-source software.

Please watch this space.

killyourfm,
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@trezzer @darth that’s far from sad, but I know what you’re saying 😉

killyourfm,
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Starting 38 power consumption tests, and decided to see how much extra power gets consumed by simply switching refresh rate from 60Hz to 120Hz (as this demands more work from the card).

As a refresher, it's a tower PC w/ [ Ryzen 3900X + Radeon RX 6800 XT]

  • 1% CPU utilization (idle) @ 60Hz: 67W (this is the same result as Windows 11, btw)

  • 1% CPU utlilization (idle)@ 120Hz: 97W

So an extra 30W pulled from the wall just to double my desktop refresh rate. Is it worth it?

killyourfm,
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In the UK, at 8 hours of operation per day, that 120Hz refresh rate boost would only result in about £30 per year.

But that ecological footprint multiplied by millions of people? Well, that might truly suck. Especially when we add up all the other "quality of life" things we enjoy with modern desktop PCs.

(I don't know how to make these calculations, and maybe this is something that @be4foss or @baldpolnareffart would excel at?)

killyourfm,
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@baldpolnareffart Right now I'm just throwing notes and results in Joplin. Not very organized yet. But I would like to make all this public, and have other people running similar tests.

killyourfm,
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@mathieucomandon hardmon looks really useful! After all, CPU and GPU are going to drive the majority of power usage.

Does it depend on the machine having various system sensors available? (For background, I use to use Phoronix Test Suite for stuff like this, but yours gets straight to the point and would probably be a better option for me).

killyourfm,
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@mathieucomandon And now you have my brain working overtime.

What would the power savings of DLSS & FSR look like when applied to millions of games? Damn....

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