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killyourfm

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Currently: Musician and geek who's happily satisfying his inner child. Also Community Engagement Manager for https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird.

Formerly: Linux For Everyone, Forbes, AMD.

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If everyone had to install 11 themselves from scratch, they would absolutely switch to .

Jesus, this takes FOREVER.

killyourfm,
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@FartsMusically It's a better installer, technically. But the amount of upselling for various Microsoft services and Windows options is borderline absurd now.

killyourfm,
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@FartsMusically @xerz In a slightly altered timeline, that cash cow is Valve.

killyourfm,
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@syn Yea, that little fact is seriously terrible. It must have generated so much e-waste.

killyourfm, to linux
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I have a lot to say about , , and my old Linux For Everyone. So those thoughts might be scattered or confined to this thread, but here we go because things need to be said!

First: @sri was dead-on when he described LAS as a family reunion. Such a warmth and feeling of camaraderie to the event. I made new friends, new work connections, and forged some new pathways in my brain thanks to eye-opening talks.

Some of those talks inspired me to take action...

killyourfm,
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@DonMcCollough KDE Eco is a wonderful initiative. I’m hoping that both personally and via Thunderbird I can amplify what they’re doing and encourage other orgs to follow.

killyourfm, to random
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Good morning Fediverse friends, Linux enthusiasts, coffee drinkers, music junkies, and everyone in between who keeps me company in this awesome place.

I'm off from Thunderbird stuff today, so I'm spending some time doing power testing on 38, and planning the return of Linux For Everyone.

Have a fantastic Friday!

killyourfm, (edited ) to linux
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I really wish the Lenovo X1 Fold ran smoothly. I love the versatility of that device.

Hate saying it, but Linux still doesn't seem ready for hybrid devices like this. I look very much forward to the day it is.

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@jared this is an extremely unique device. Particularly when it comes to the keyboard that magnetically attaches to the screen and auto updates the display configuration. It’s also not a well supported CPU. I don’t think any distro fully supports it.

killyourfm,
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@iod This thread on Lenovo's site is a bummer to read through. It includes comments from Lenovo's Mark Pearson who heads up their Linux team. He basically says it's not in good shape.

Follow-ups more than 1 year later aren't more positive.

Essentially, screen rotation, bluetooth, and on-device buttons all problematic among other things.

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Other-Linux-Discussions/X1-Fold-OS-Linux-where-to-start-and-how-it%E2%80%99s-going/m-p/5120185

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Over the next few weeks, I'm going to TRY to accurately measure my power consumption doing daily work tasks on my big tower PC, the Steam Deck, and the HP Dev One laptop. (Using a Kill-A-Watt P3).

ALSO? Gaming power consumption comparisons between my desktop PC & the Xbox Series X, both at 4K resolution.

I expect it will be an eye-opening experience and I'll never turn on my tower again.

This will undoubtedly branch off into all kinds of software testing too. YES, I'll record & share data...

killyourfm,
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@baldpolnareffart Right now I'm just throwing notes and results in Joplin. Not very organized yet. But I would like to make all this public, and have other people running similar tests.

killyourfm,
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@trezzer @darth Just so I have some background, do you have access to Windows + Linux on your desktop and laptop?

Having Windows isn't really that important, but I'm absolutely doing comparative testing ;-)

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@vsaw This is JUST the PC! (I can only measure one input on the Kill-a-Watt)

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I ran some power consumption tests on 11, measuring from the wall.

My system: Ryzen 9 3900X, Radeon RX 6800 XT, 32GB RAM.

1% CPU utilization (Idle): 67W

5% CPU + 10% GPU (Streaming with Plex): 130W

Dirt 5 Benchmark (4K, High Preset, Uncapped FPS): 431W

Dirt 5 Benchmark (4K, High Preset, 60FPS Cap): 355W

Dirt 5 Benchmark (1440p, High Preset, 60FPS) Cap) : 288W

The power savings gained JUST from capping FPS to 60 is more than 2x the total power of a under heavy load.

killyourfm,
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@mathieucomandon And now you have my brain working overtime.

What would the power savings of DLSS & FSR look like when applied to millions of games? Damn....

killyourfm,
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@darth @trezzer Would you be so kind as to start a doc somewhere or shoot me an email with some of your findings?

It's for a future L4E Episode ;-)

killyourfm,
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In the UK, at 8 hours of operation per day, that 120Hz refresh rate boost would only result in about £30 per year.

But that ecological footprint multiplied by millions of people? Well, that might truly suck. Especially when we add up all the other "quality of life" things we enjoy with modern desktop PCs.

(I don't know how to make these calculations, and maybe this is something that @be4foss or @baldpolnareffart would excel at?)

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@darth @trezzer No no, I don't mind spoilers. It's good to compare data!

That's almost 3x the power consumption of Steam Deck under max load...

Darth, are you using a Kill-A-Watt? Measuring power at the wall?

killyourfm,
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@trezzer @darth that’s far from sad, but I know what you’re saying 😉

killyourfm,
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@NO_PULSE_XBL same here. It should be enlightening!

killyourfm,
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I'll repeat the same tests with 38 tomorrow.

What I'm beginning is a journey to capture the power consumption differences between operating systems, form factors, and eventually, proprietary vs open-source software.

Please watch this space.

killyourfm,
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Starting 38 power consumption tests, and decided to see how much extra power gets consumed by simply switching refresh rate from 60Hz to 120Hz (as this demands more work from the card).

As a refresher, it's a tower PC w/ [ Ryzen 3900X + Radeon RX 6800 XT]

  • 1% CPU utilization (idle) @ 60Hz: 67W (this is the same result as Windows 11, btw)

  • 1% CPU utlilization (idle)@ 120Hz: 97W

So an extra 30W pulled from the wall just to double my desktop refresh rate. Is it worth it?

killyourfm,
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@trezzer FASCINATING. Standby as in idle, or standby as in sleep?

killyourfm,
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@mathieucomandon hardmon looks really useful! After all, CPU and GPU are going to drive the majority of power usage.

Does it depend on the machine having various system sensors available? (For background, I use to use Phoronix Test Suite for stuff like this, but yours gets straight to the point and would probably be a better option for me).

killyourfm,
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@vsaw True, true. And what I'm really trying to capture is the power consumption differences between operating systems, form factors, and eventually proprietary vs open-source software.

killyourfm,
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@vsaw Huh. that's a fairly simple solution I hadn't thought about!

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