mekkaokereke

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@db0

Those "one-way-solidarity" kids can have all the fediverse debates that they want. 🤷🏿‍♂️

They can talk up and down about how they think Black men should vote, and what "we," should do. But there is no "we," when selfish dem voters expect the most downtrodden and abused part of US society to give them unearned trust to "fix it after the election," which they have never done. Ever.

But them saying that Black people expecting Biden to not abuse them is fascism, really made me laugh! Classic! 🤣

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@db0

Most of those Lemmy debaters are terminally unreachable. I don't provide this information for them.

I'm providing this information because I'm sick of people implying that Black men are "turning to GOP" because of anything that Trump is saying. That they're attracted to Trump or something. Some foolishness about "Black man like strong man!" Or some simplistic analysis like that. No.

It has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with Black men being tired of Dem voters' and Biden's mess

mekkaokereke, 9 days ago

The problem isn't Black voters.

The problem isn't Trump.

The problem isn't even Biden.

The problem is you, the Dem voter. Yes, you.

Your willingness to ignore the suffering of Black people, and to expect us to continue to vote against our self-interest, has brought us to this point.

Even now, for the brink of disaster, more of you are angry at me for typing this, than angry at yourself for never listening to Black people.

I swear at least one person is typing a "Trump is worse!" reply.

mekkaokereke, 9 days ago

Yes, Black folk have much more to lose under Trump than white people. No, Trump and Biden are not the same.

But a person closer to rock bottom is more willing to let the whole ship sink, than a person with everything to lose.

Think of it this way: Your "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" score might be 70% under Biden, but 49% under Trump. A Black man brutalized by racism his whole life, might be 30% under Biden, but 2% under Trump.

The Black man clearly has more to lose!

mekkaokereke, 9 days ago

This whole silly conversation can be summed up as white people trying to explain to Black men, that 2% is less than 30%, and that a drop of 28% is more than a drop of 21%, while Black men try to explain to everyone that 30% is not enough.

I guess we''re all going to continue not listening to each other until Trump is elected. 🤷🏿‍♂️

mekkaokereke, 9 days ago

@virtualinanity

Yup.

They're literally listening to white supremacist talking points without knowing it.

This entire white supremacist playbook, is designed to use the racism inherent in Democratic voters and liberals, to dismantle DEI, to make it easier to attack Black people and Jewish people. This isn't some made up conspiracy theory. The people who are doing this literally wrote down their plan! And shared it publicly before hand! And it still worked! 🤷🏿‍♂️

https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/111622169550049574

mekkaokereke, 9 days ago

@Jackiemauro

No.

If Trump wins it is not my fault.

I am under zero obligation to suffer under racism, then "fight" that racism by yelling at other Black people online, to drive them to vote at an unrealistically high 95%+ rate for the person that passed laws increasing the racism that we suffer, all just to stop the people that subject us to that racism and profit from it from hurting themselves a little too.

My only obligation is to hold a mirror up. Which is what I'm doing in this thread.

mekkaokereke, 9 days ago

@Jackiemauro

You know that the attacks on DEI are strictly racist. Have you honestly done "everything that you can" to combat that? Everything? As in, there's nothing else that you could possibly do?

You know that newspapers lie about Black people and crime, constantly. Have you honestly done "everything that you can" on that? Everything?

Stop thinking about fighting racism as what you do on voting day. Start thinking about it as specific actions that you take every other day.

mekkaokereke, 9 days ago

@Jackiemauro

No, mulling is fine!

For others reading, notice that Jackie didn't:

• Invalidate what Black folk are feeling
• Swear at me
• Verbalize harm fantasies about what Trump will do to Black people if they don't do what white voters want
• Just yell "Trump is worse!"
• Assume that she sees the "bigger picture" better than Black voters

Jackie did:

• Say how this makes her feel
• Say what her interpretation is, based on her context and concerns
• Acknowledge that other views exist

mekkaokereke, 9 days ago

@joeinwynnewood

"Except I do listen" and then you proceed to list a bunch of things that you think are helpful, but that don't address a single thing that I brought up in this thread. Nowhere do you mention calling out Biden for any of the things I mentioned. You didn't even listen in this thread. 🤷🏿‍♂️

"I am equally tired!" No. No you're not. Not by a long shot. You just feel like you are, because you don't know how deep the well of pain goes.

mekkaokereke, 8 days ago

@joeinwynnewood

Have you ever even considered writing a letter to Biden, expressing your complete disappointment in his harmful, racist, policing strategy? At any point before, during, or after an election? Have you ever told him that you will not support him in future, if he doesn't change? OK, letters are more work. How about a phone call?

Easier: Same as above, but for your Senator or Representative?

Easiest: OK, how about your mayor? An ombudsperson? School board member?

Anyone?

mekkaokereke, 8 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

In the past or now?

In the past:
Biden sponsored the infamous "Crime Bill," which exposed many Black people to cruel and absurdly long sentences. This was a federal law, but offered money to states... on the contingency that they make harsher sentences.

Now:
Biden diverted cities' Covid funds to form violent police units that brutalized Black neighborhoods, instead of providing, y'know, masks and air purifiers and financial assistance, like Covid funds were meant for.

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

1. After all those BLM protests, Biden's budget gave cops even more money than they asked for.🤦🏿‍♂️

2. Lots of fancy words to sugar coat the fact that he's hiring 100,000 more cops.🤦🏿‍♂️
   https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/01/fact-sheet-president-bidens-safer-america-plan-2/

3. the American Rescue Plan Act was a thinly veiled way to funnel even more money to the police.🤦🏿‍♂️
   https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/07/covid-relief-funds-california-cities-police

https://m4bl.org/statements/bidens-plan-stimulus-money-funding-police/

Biden set this up, knowing full well what this will mean to Black people everywhere.

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mekkaokereke, 7 days ago (edited 7 days ago)

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

Have you ever been physically assaulted by a person armed with a gun, that you knew could shoot you at any moment without facing any consequence? I have. 🙋🏿‍♂️

Have you ever had a loaded gun pointed at your face from close range? I have.🙋🏿‍♂️

1 in 5 Black men have an experience like this. 20%.

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/press-release/poll-7-in-10-black-americans-say-they-have-experienced-incidents-of-discrimination-or-police-mistreatment-in-lifetime-including-nearly-half-who-felt-lives-were-in-danger/

Given that 20% of Black men have had this experience with cops, we should be surprised and happy that only 15% of them won't vote for any pro-cop candidate🤷🏿‍♂️

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mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

In the 90s, Biden used the federal crime bill to put pressure on cities and states to increase the minimum sentences on minor offenses, which had predictable devastating effects on Black communities. Black men know this fact.

So the dynamic of using Federal pandemic aid, to increase funding for local city and state police departments, is very familiar.

It ain't slick.

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mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

Dems assume that police brutality is always much worse under GOP. Nope!

The folks that try to blacksplain to Black men about why they should vote for Biden, almost never have a clue about any of what I've just listed.

They don't know Biden's full role in the crime bill. They don't know that he gave cops more funds than they asked for. They don't know that he doubled down by hiring 100K more cops. They don't know that he undermined defund with pandemic funds.

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mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

Ah.

I suspect we're approaching the part of the conversation where the person online with the default profile pic, is about to try to explain to the Black guy that:
a) Works on criminal justice reform, and has launched programs to reduce police violence
b) Has been targeted by police most of his life
c) Is an expert in positional asphyxiation and blood chokes

how these "police reforms" that do nothing, are actually effective?

Is that where we're headed?

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

It doesn't matter if choke holds are against police policy, if police can violate that policy without accountability. That's the whole point.

During BLM protests, police violated the rules defined and supposedly overseen by the civilian review board... on members of that civilian review board!

🙂🙃

And yes, every increase in police staffing, results in disproportionate over-policing of the closest Black community, no matter what that increase was designed to do.

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

OK, now we're getting somewhere! You already knew this answer! 🙂

https://sfstandard.com/2023/09/13/san-francisco-police-officer-misrepresented-race-bias-investigation/

https://www.acluct.org/en/news/new-report-false-state-police-ticket-records-raises-questions-and-concerns

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

"So, your claim is that any increase in funding for police..."

It's disrespectful to expect Black people to explain the basic facts over and over again.

Listen. I'm not a starter Black person. I'm not gentle or patient on basic, 101 topics. It's 2024. I'm not doing the thing where when I lay out some facts about systemic racism, I have to go back and educate you from ground zero. There was a whole BLM protest on this. I've made so many threads. There are books on this.

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

See! I knew that we would wind up here!

Biden directed cities to shift federal pandemic funds to increase police budgets, undermining the defund movement.

Biden directed cities to set up units like the SCORPION units, that brutalized innocent Black people like me, and beat some of us to death. This is the SCORPION unit:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JeI8vdF_-tQ

For you to say that this is not evidence, indicates the difference between what it feels like to talk about it vs live it.

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

Biden puts "Black faces in high places," because he knows that it placates liberals and people like you. And that's great! I'm happy for those Black faces, and I'm happy for you! 👍🏿

That doesn't change the fact that the missing 10% of Black men voters, are not placated by "Black faces in high places." They're pissed about the police funding, and the SCORPION units, and being vilified and blamed for every pandemic problem. And they're not voting for Biden.

mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

🤦🏿‍♂️I've already written threads about how the "Black people want to increase police funding" is an intentionally misleading lie told by cops and their enablers, and repeated unwittingly by lots of liberals that don't talk to enough Black people.

I'll try and explain it again one more time, this time with an analogy that more non-Black folk are likely to understand...

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mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

NYPD budget is $12 billion a year. Billion. The most stolen 2 items in NYC, are 1) cell phone and 2) bike.

NYPD is useless at preventing the theft, or recovering stolen bikes. They're so useless, that they don't even recognize one of the most common heavy duty bike locks. NYPD is good at beating students though.

Suppose your bike was stolen. You call 911. The cops show up, beat you senseless, charge you with resisting arrest, don't recover your bike, and leave.😮

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mekkaokereke, 7 days ago

@NSalwen @Jackiemauro

Now someone asks you:

"Do you wish for increased police presence, to reduce bike crime?"

A) Yes! Bike theft is out of control!

B) No! I love having my stuff stolen!

If you choose "A," NYPD budget increases to $13B a year, and you still don't get any reduction in bike crime, but you do get 9% more beatings! 🤡

And now anytime someone complains about cops brutalizing people, they will say "But we asked NSalwen, and they like what we do! They want more of it!" 🤡

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