Not that I'm particularly against that - quite the opposite, in fact. But I'm wondering if anyone sees, or had seen a path to social and climate recovery/progress that could occur without first eradicating the class of people who most enjoy the present status quo.
That suggests, though, that societal progress can only occur once they ARE dead, or at least disenfranchised beyond any hope of recovery (and presumably a lot of other people dead too, if civilization is reduced to ruins)
But I would challenge the assertion that people willing to kill (or, I guess, order it to be done) are unable to improve upon current society. If certain individuals are impeding society from advancement, and the only viable solution to their removal is one of violence, simply seeing that to be the case and being willing to take those actions doesn't necessarily mean their vision of society is a flawed one (though I will admit, it does make for a reasonable inductive argument of that conclusion)
But if, as you say, the ruling class must first be removed before positive change can take place, that suggests that either the only path to improvement is through such extreme means, or else there is no path to a better society.
I think it might be difficult to find a court of law that would accept that argument (over the fistful of cash being offered to them just out of sight)
Not that this is likely to change many minds, if that were even what I was hoping to do, but the problem with most of the 'non-murder' solutions people are proposing is this:
These people control, or have enormous influence over, the institutions that are able to implement the proposed measures. Some opposition exists, but ultimately money speaks louder, and these people have enough of it to buy a majority opposition to anyone proposing the changes which might help the majority at expense of the few, them.
The only real solution to the post my social inequalities that I can see is to have these monied individuals actively work to improve it, or at least step out of the way. That's going to take some pretty serious reprioritisation on their parts, and that in turn requires some extraordinary motivation. "Do this or die" might just do the trick is we can show we're capable of it, in both the physical and psychological sense. By contrast, "do this or else" probably isn't really going to cut it, especially since beyond the non-specificity of the threat, any ability to actually enforce sanctions on them is demonstrably low. It might just be possible to kill one, or a number of billionaires, but how are you actually going to lower their quality of life?
That's the line of reasoning that motivated this post, anyway. I was just curious if anyone could offer a plausible alternative.
I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason....
In the migration to lemmy, this community’s admins have the chance to drop its startlingly racist name. Wasn’t funny back then, and it’s still not funny....
Uhh if the posts here are anything to go by, a lot of the people who subscribe, or at least pay attention to the posts on here are right wing and so possibly actual racists, if not nazis. So maybe leave them this space so they can out themselves?
England saw a decrease in suicide rates in the '60s & '70s last century when the levels of carbon monoxide in the natural gas supply were reduced. As a result of this change, people stopped being able to easily commit suicide by sticking their head in the unlit oven and turning it on.
It's not like these people were institutionalized and physically prevented from harming themselves. Making means of suicide too really available seems to allow people to kill themselves who otherwise would not attempt it.
Reducing access to guns- besides the obvious decrease in homicides - will likely cause a noteworthy reduction in suicide, too.
For the first time in the world researchers at Tel Aviv University have encoded a toxin produced by bacteria into mRNA (messenger RNA) molecules and delivered these particles directly to cancer cells, causing the cells to produce the toxin—which eventually killed them with a success rate of 50%.
I'm guessing immune cells deliver a signal to trigger apoptosis, but cancer cells usually mutate to quash that mechanism or break its function somehow.
Is there any more ethical solution to our current circumstances than "murder all billionaires"?
Not that I'm particularly against that - quite the opposite, in fact. But I'm wondering if anyone sees, or had seen a path to social and climate recovery/progress that could occur without first eradicating the class of people who most enjoy the present status quo.
0.17.0: 😢 The last release of wefwef...
Now that I got your attention with that clickbait title…...
Is having an Android really a deal-breaker for some people?
I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason....
Trump's claim that he could end Ukraine's war in a day is a 'beautiful' thought but not true, Zelenskyy says (www.businessinsider.com)
This is what the United States looks like if you scale states by population (lemmy.world)
TIL After being named Marijuana Pepsi Jackson by her parents and enduring years of bullying as a result, Jackson refused to change her name and went on to earn her Ph.D. at the age of 46 for Higher... (www.npr.org)
Why keep the nazi name for this community
In the migration to lemmy, this community’s admins have the chance to drop its startlingly racist name. Wasn’t funny back then, and it’s still not funny....
It's night and it's an emergency! The Joker is loose! Gotham needs Batman. But there isn't a cloud in the sky. How does Commissioner Gordon summon him?
Assuming he doesn’t have a red phone line directly to Batman like in the old TV show, obviously.
Someone suggested Threadites as a combined name for Lemmy/Kbin users rule
Reddit hated emojis, how does Kbin feel?
Seemed like emojis in posts / comments would get downvoted to oblivion on Reddit. I don’t see the same thing on Kbin (or other instances / services).
What classic song do you think is severely overrated?
I’ll start. I’m sorry but California Love is a boring ass song....
I'll try anything once (lemmy.world)
Biden renews call for assault weapons ban after ‘tragic and senseless’ spate of July 4 shootings (www.independent.co.uk)
President says ‘epidemic of gun violence is tearing our communities apart’ after mass shootings in Philadelphia, Fort Worth, Baltimore and Chicago
Is Coke Zero also carcinogenic?
Just heard the news about Diet Coke. I drink about two cans a day and I feel devastated. Is it safe to switch to Coke Zero?
Its a simple message, and it comes from the RULE (lemmy.tf)
Any love for a different kind of bean? (lemmy.world)
deployment rule (files.catbox.moe)
Researchers induce cancer cells to 'commit suicide' with a self-produced bacterial toxin (phys.org)
For the first time in the world researchers at Tel Aviv University have encoded a toxin produced by bacteria into mRNA (messenger RNA) molecules and delivered these particles directly to cancer cells, causing the cells to produce the toxin—which eventually killed them with a success rate of 50%.