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Deceptichum, to news in U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Ukraine
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Hexbear, hive of tankie chuds.

Hyperreality,

Yep.

Cosplay communists who support the same Russian oligarch class, who helped accelerate the demise of the USSR and stole billions from their countrymen like the worst capitalist stereotype. A country these cosplay communists claim to admire. I mean, imagine unironically claiming to be a communist, then supporting Yeltsin's former friend Putin and thinking Russia's Trump is admirable.

But I suppose you have to give these chuds the benefit of the doubt, assume they're just morons, rather than alt-right entryists trying to undermine the cause of genuine leftists.

Sad and embarassing.

NaibofTabr, (edited ) to worldnews in U.S Troops Loot Syrian Oil and Wheat Continuously

So this article is thin on details and lacking any mention of historical or political context. The only cited sources it has are “witnesses” (unidentified). It’s pretty clearly designed to give the reader a simple impression lacking in nuance or understanding. And in fact, it is a copy of propaganda articles being pushed by the Chinese Foreign Ministry as described in this article by Radio Free Asia. And here is the media bias rating for RFA.

This is a propaganda piece, and it’s a poorly written one that doesn’t even attempt to back up its claims with any other sources or explain the broader context of the conflict in Syria. The funny bit is, it’s stale propaganda from 15 months ago, though it seems to have been updated with a new picture of a single truck on a road somewhere.

Edit: So this is the original source (provided by a commenter below): US occupation continues plundering Syrian resources, 22 Apr 2024. And here is the same article: US occupation continues plundering more Syrian resources dated 14 Jan 2023. This is pretty transparent, right? Do you think they have different authors that copy each others’ homework, or is it just one guy using different names?

Adding to the general comic value, there are lots of pictures of trucks on unidentified roads in unspecified locations, but in spite of all the finger-pointing at the “US occupation forces” there isn’t a single US soldier or vehicle pictured anywhere.

This is extremely lazy propaganda.

sandman,

So tired of seeing this.

We need less-censored news forums.

wildbus8979,

Media Bias “Fact Checking” RFA is the funniest shit.

“Non-profit” without mentioning who founded it, and who funds it now.

pingveno,

There is an About link in the footer that is quite transparent about the founder, funding sources, methodology, etc.

wildbus8979,

I’m talking about RFA.

pingveno,

Check out the history section, they mention its founding. The current funding seems to be misidentified in this paragraph:

Radio Free Asia is a nonprofit 501©(3) organization that is owned by U.S. Agency for Global Media and funded through donations.

That suggests private donations, but from what I can tell it’s basically just funded by the US government via US Agency for Global Media.

wildbus8979,

You’re proving my point there buddy.

RFA was created under the directorate of the CIA, and later transfered to the State Department (aka foreign policy influence). The fact that MBFC fails to mention that is huge red flag and shows their own bias.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

I swear it’s MBFC’s job to not understand that. It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. — Upton Sinclair

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

If you quote CIA sources, you are the same as Washington monsters. Invalidated immediately.

zephyreks,

Please avoid citing MBFC as a valid source. See my comment above.

aniki,
NaibofTabr,

This article from SANA is the same. It cites nothing except “local sources” and it’s even shorter. It’s literally a copy of the Chinese Foreign Ministry talking points described by RFA.

culprit,
@culprit@lemmy.ml avatar

Radio Free Asia US government-funded broadcaster in Asia

my propaganda source says your propaganda is propaganda

NaibofTabr,

Regardless of your opinion of RFA, it’s the way this article is written that makes it propaganda. It makes a direct political attack, but it doesn’t actually substantiate any of its claims. You are expected to believe what it tells you and not ask any questions. There are no corroborating sources, no cross references, and not even names of the witnesses they claim to have.

No matter what your political point of view is, you shouldn’t believe anything presented in an article of this quality. It’s an insult to your intelligence. It’s not information, it’s just opinion.

catloaf,

It looks like most outlets carrying this story are just re-reporting this one from SANA: sana.sy/en/?p=329527

And that seems a bit light on details. And the details it does have seem slanted, like painting the US presence as an occupation, a border crossing as an illegal settlement (I can’t even find any other references to Mahmoudiya in Syria with a quick Google), and the photos just show pictures of random tanker trucks, nothing that would indicate location, direction, contents, or operator.

My sense is that the US is supporting a rebel faction in the Syrian civil war, and the ruling faction (Bashar al-Assad’s) is trying to paint them as the bad guy, for something that may or may not be legitimate, and may or may not even be happening at all. There’s not enough evidence here to draw any conclusions.

cyclohexane,

painting the US presence as an occupation

what definition of occupation does not include the deployment of the US military, which proceeded to build a dozen military bases in a territory of another country, which has continuously made filings to the UN about this occupation?

catloaf,

The definition in the Fourth Hague Convention of 1907.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

painting the US presence as an occupation

🙄

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7d9604c7-4587-4fc1-a060-816b1b7fba5c.png

nahuse,

This is a good, nuanced interpretation of this, thanks for doing the leg work and summarizing it succinctly.

wildbus8979,

like painting the US presence as an occupation

Explain to me how it is not. Do they have a UN mandate to be there? No? An invite from the sovereign government body of the land? Neither?

catloaf, (edited )

A territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. In this case, that area is under the control of the SDF.

wildbus8979,

Who funds and arms the SDF?

catloaf,

The US, for one. If this is supposed to be a gotcha, that makes it a puppet state at best, still not an occupation.

NaibofTabr,

The US is supporting SDF, a primarily Kurdish group. This is no secret, they have been since 2015 against ISIL (you remember, the guys that were posting videos of beheading people on YouTube).

The Kurds have lived in this area for millennia. They have just as much right to the natural resources there as the Assad government, probably more.

nekandro,

Which is why the Navajo Nation controls land that would have otherwise contained the Hoover Dam, if it were not for the rights that the Navajo held to the natural resources there.

Oh, wait.

cyclohexane, (edited )

The Syrian conflict is 13 years old. It’s ridiculous to expect every article to give you the whole context every time, especially since anything anyone will write about said context will be extremely biased. This conflict had massive misinformation campaigns from all sides.

Evaluate the information for what it is, not for whether it gives you a lecture on the history of the conflict.

SANA is primarily a TV channel, and the articles are usually a summary / transcript of the TV reports. They show videos routinely of the trucks that are very clearly carrying oil through Al-ya’rabiya, which is a border crossing from Syria to Iraq that the US controls.

asg101, to worldnews in Collective Punishment is a War Crime, OHCHR Warns Israel

Israel is one unending war crime, they don’t give a shit what anyone says. Neither do the owner/operators of most nations, which support them no matter what they do.

livus,
livus avatar

I think it's mainly the US that supports them unconditionally, often with UK and sometimes Canada. The rest of the world just don't want to be in a trade war (or worse) with the US.

For example, look at the different nations voting records on these resolutions passed by the UN General Assembly last year.

Maeve, (edited )

And my compatriots get indignant about, absolutely * can not fathom why we’re known as The Great Satan.

Edited for formatting and clarity

idoubledo,

Like so many other people on the internet you seem to have very little information about what you’re talking about, but that doesn’t stops you from expressing your opinion.

See this and let me know if you still feel the same youtu.be/XNf40sBcvKk?si=_s_U6po5Jvpb_byU

D3FNC,

You’re right a 30 minute YouTube video by travelingisrael.com completely addressed all of my concerns, damn, thank you so much. I fucking love Zionism now, let’s go kill some brown babies my dude

Insipid fucking moron

Evilsandwichman,

Like so many other people on the internet you seem to have very little information about what you’re talking about, but that doesn’t stops you from expressing your opinion.

The guy in your link like so many people on the internet seems to have very little information about what they’re talking about, but that hasn’t stopped them from expressing their opinion. Here’s someone who does actually have a lot of information on what they’re talking about who has a response to their video:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXF5C2c0UYs

See this and let me know if you still feel the same way

JoMiran, to usa in Pro-Palestinian Protests Spread in US Universities
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Anti-Genocide Protests Spread in US Universities

FTFY

Cuttlefish1111, to usa in Pro-Palestinian Protests Spread in US Universities

The world finally sees monsters as monsters. No amount of propaganda can undo this.

ChicoSuave,

COVID showed the propaganda is fairly effective. People trust the news even when the news is actually an opinion piece because there is trust the source supports a justifiable opinion.

Cuttlefish1111, (edited )

Only for the misinformed, whom, do not have the brainpower to run the worlds most advanced military

moody, to worldnews in South Africa to Sue US and UK as Complicit in Gaza Genocide

Don’t forget Canada

jeena, to worldnews in South Africa to Sue US and UK as Complicit in Gaza Genocide
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

Very good, they should also do it to Germany.

Mr_Blott, to worldnews in South Africa to Sue US and UK as Complicit in Gaza Genocide

As a Brit, good!

We should not be following the world’s most prolific terrorists into any conflicts, especially considering their track record of losses 😂

gnuhaut, to worldnews in NATO Claims Western Strikes on Yemen Are Defensive

Defending Israel’s right to commit genocide. I wonder if they plan to do genocide in Yemen again.

FlyingSquid, to politics in U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Ukraine
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Putin is going to give all of his U.S. congressional pawns a big bonus this week.

aew360,

MTG and Boebert will be dining out at the finest roadside BBQ restaurant in their districts tonight

MisterD,

maybe even see a movie, exchange dick pics…

reverendsteveii,

a nice handjob between courses

TheDeepState,

That does sound nice.

gedaliyah,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

It’s sad to watch these world leaders who understand long strategy use the short American attention span to twist global politics to their own ends.

lurch,

Ruble isn’t doing great tho 🤣

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s fine, he’ll just take the money out of one of his Swiss bank accounts.

AngryCommieKender,

I could have sworn that The Swiss froze all Russian accounts. Like I vaguely remember a major headline that The Swiss had broken a several hundred year “neutrality” streak.

Wiz,

I think it’s OK to put the blame where appropriate here. “U.S. Republican Congressional pawns.”

aaro, to news in U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Ukraine

White House National Security Council strategic communications coordinator John Kirby said at a briefing Thursday that “the assistance we were providing has come to a halt.”

The White House official also said it is very important that Congress continues to approve the allocation of money to Ukraine. He stressed that Kiev needs help more urgently during the winter period.

kinda very misleading headline tbh

420blazeit69,

I don’t think misleading, more like incomplete (but hey, it’s a headline).

The real question is whether we will send more or if that comment from the White House is kicking responsibility for the shutdown onto Congress.

Civility,
LollerCorleone, to anime_titties in Víctor Jara's Murderer is Extradited From the US to Chile
LollerCorleone avatar

I wonder how many such monsters who committed crimes against humanity with the endorsement of Kissinger are similarly living in the US.

testing,
testing avatar

@LollerCorleone
i am struggling to express my thoughts rn > i mean, how can those people be held accountable, after all those years? joan jara, victor jara's widow, fought all her life to bring the murderers to court, and she died some weeks ago ...

Fried_out_Kombi, to worldnews in Collective Punishment is a War Crime, OHCHR Warns Israel
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

People complain about the UN doing nothing, but it’s also important to remember it was literally designed to not be able to do anything if one of the security council nations – USA, UK, France, Russia, or China – vetoes it. And USA always vetoes anything against the Israeli government.

Considering the UN’s hands are tied, I’m very glad they’re at least using their figurative microphone and international influence to call attention to how fucked up the treatment of Palestinians is.

I don’t know for others, but growing up American, Israel and its friends in Washington had done a terrific job of conflating any criticism of Israel with anti-semitism. What finally got me to re-evaluate my stance on the Israeli government a few years back was when well-known, respectable organizations like the Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International started using the word “apartheid” to describe the situation of Palestinians.

Hearing sources like the UN Office for Human Rights, the UN Secretary General, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International calling out the Israeli government’s actions in strong, unequivocal terms like “war crime” and “apartheid” is a start. I wish they could do more, and I sure as heck am angry with US foreign policy in this, but I’m just glad the UN has the balls to actually call this a war crime.

hotdaniel,

They wouldn’t condemn Hamas or the Oct 7th attacks, however.

Veraxus,
Veraxus avatar

Hamas isn’t a state.

hotdaniel,

That’s correct.

jaybone,

Aren’t they the leading political “party” if you will in Gaza? Weren’t they elected like over a decade ago? (Before they got rid of elections.) Or maybe I’m not remembering correctly.

alienzx,

Gaza isn’t a country either

DeathsEmbrace,

No what’s worse is they used the attack as an excuse to go to war. I’d argue that 9/11 was just incompetence but this is too nefarious. They had a warning multiple times including by Hamas. Israel is a terrorist state and will always be one after these events.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

israel has been a terrorist apartheid state since 1940s.

Also, peertube.su/w/h4uqc9Fzjx6o5UEUjN4r5f

idoubledo,

You got one thing right, Israel ignored multiple warnings by Hamas that they plan to destroy Israel and kill civilians.

Never again.

ApexHunter,

You might say Israel is implementing a final solution to their problem…

DmMacniel,

Oh how the turntables.

idoubledo, (edited )

Israel has the military might to solve this issue right now with no risk to their soldiers, and had this capability for the better part of this 70 year old conflict, but you know why it doesn’t use that military might to spare its own people?

Because we’re not fucking terrorists! We care about human lives, even those who fucking vowed to kill us and elected a terrorist organization as their government to accomplish this task for them

blitzkrieg,

Yes, you’re an occupying, child-killing, war-crime-comitting illegal state.

You care about human lives? Tell that to the thousands of dead women and children.

sfgifz,

That’s how you imagine yourself as. Realistically it just feels like a mask has slipped of your face and a lot of people in the world realised you aren’t the oppressed anymore.

idoubledo,

That’s a disingenuous statement designed to manipulate people, you never in your life sincerely thought Israel is oppressed and you’re trying to make it seem like you did.

It’s hard to imagine one self in Israel’s shoes, but I can say with high certainty you never tried.

demonquark, to worldnews in Texas Violates International Law by Shooting a Mexican: AMLO

So an injured migrant (how did he get injured?) was on the Mexican side of the border. Was approached by a guy on a motorcycle. And the Texas guard decided to shoot the guy? Because, according to the Texas Guard, e was trying to harm the migrant?

So… Obviously made up story to justify what is still an illegal act.

These guys have abandoned all pretense of adhering to the rule of law.

MahatmaGandhalf,
MahatmaGandhalf avatar

been temporarily suspended from duty pending a full investigation

and the classic US way of "paid vacation for (attempted) murder"

SkyezOpen,

The military isn’t the police. Dude will face punishment.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

Yeah just like all the rapists do, right?

Military justice is a joke, hidden from public eye.

givesomefucks,

Thats two people under the same command, and the entire command wants to make it go away ASAP so it doesn’t look bad.

Rape is a huge issue in the military, but it’s a lot different when something happens to a foreign national and both countries press catches wind of it.

SkyezOpen,

The difference is those often get swept under the rug by the chain of command. THIS is public and big, it’s not going away.

DrPop,

Sexual assault is a systemic issue in the military mainly due to chain of command. There have been recent pushes to change the process on how it is handled since there have been too many reports of the issue being swept under the rug due to team cohesion. These are two separate issues though and should be approached as such.

givesomefucks,

Yeah.

We hold soldiers to a much higher standard than cops.

Cops can shoot all their bullets at someone because the felt scared.

A soldier pretty much has to be under fire, and even then they’re not supposed to keep shooting till their out of bullets

some_guy,

No, wait, you don’t understand. The guys who signed up to round up and (possibly) kill migrants were trying to protect a guy in another country. /s

Spiralvortexisalie,

It is the National Guard, there are probably way more people there for GI Bill benefits than some political ideology.

obinice, to worldnews in Texas Violates International Law by Shooting a Mexican: AMLO
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

An act of war, you say.

I wonder why those Americans were shooting people in a river in the first place. That’s their solution to everything, shoot people. Got a problem? Shoot at it.

bandario,

If you’re so smart, how do you turn the light switch off after you get in bed without firing a shot?

mustardman,
VanillaGorilla,

"Alexa, shoot the bedroom lights"

hglman,

Cut on the lights

kitonthenet,

Hmm but we can’t apply that to the problem most of the country has with the Texas government, a weird double standard

fushuan,

I guess that you are joking, and I disagree with their stupid policy, but it’s not really that weird for policies to be different in the border of a country with inter country borders. It’s not a double standard, they are clearly two well defined different standards.

kitonthenet,

It’s not on the border it was on the other side of the border, the guy with the gun was on the Texas side of the border

fushuan,

That’s the thing, no? US has laws against immigrants and acts according to those. Now, the dude didn’t follow it’s own laws and yeah we know that they are corrupt and he won’t get shit, but what I’m saying is that laws about interacting with fellow citizens will always be different than laws interaction with external people

kitonthenet,

The laws of the United States apply to everyone on its soil, the guy who blasted away this other guy committed a crime and must be held to account

HurlingDurling,

But they work for the government so that won’t be happening

fushuan,

Sure but then I don’t get which double standard you were mentioning with this incident and the issue that the rest of the US has with texas.

I’m not defending this fact at all, I genuinely don’t understand why is there a double standard with Mexico-us policies and non texas us-texas policies, they are different laws, double standards exist where reality works differently with how it should happen.

Are you saying that you should be allowed to shoot texas that try to go to anywhere on the US that is not texas? People jump quite fast to aggressive comments as if I was implying that what happened is remotely okay, I just don’t get how your double standards comment makes sense.

sndmn,

What you should have said was nothing.

DrPop,

It’s worse than that. The shots were fired across the river into Mexican territory. The national guard should know their authority on that type of situation. This was a major fuck up and they are definitely being chewed out for the mountains of paperwork he just created. Stuff like this isn’t easily swept under the rug, especially if our southern neighbor pushes the issue.

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