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The Steam Deck and other handheld PCs also rocks for emulation, not only for light indie games.
Here is a part of the article which bugs me a byte:
By nearly all objective measures, the ROG Ally is better than the Steam Deck. It has solid battery life, a nicer screen, more power, and Windows 11
Having Windows 11 on the device is not an objective measure to be better. If anything, this is a subjective matter. In my opinion Windows is far worse as an operating system for a handheld PC (or any PC at all). Sure you have more games to play with, but the usability and customization sucks, plus Microsoft is spying on you.
Seriously - especially since MS will keep trying to extract more money from the OS, which will affect your handheld too. It’s much less likely for Valve to do that kind of stuff (and if they do, the community will create alternatives).
I like Linux, I don't care for Windows, but none of that changes the fact that Linux is simply better right now for handheld gaming PCs like the Steam Deck.
Some of that is due to the open nature of the system allowing manufacturers like Valve to have much finer control of the system (see gamescope or Valve's Linux kernel patches for just 2 quick examples). Some of it is due to the work that Valve put in to make the Steam Deck polished, like making sure the thing had proper suspended/resume. And some of that has to do with the existing Linux ecosystem of well-managed repositories, various desktops, Wine, and so on.
In contrast, Windows has only ever been truly designed for a "desktop" experience and it is neither flexible nor low level enough to allow for the type of tweaks necessary to make a Deck-like experience. Valve could not have made the Deck what it is using Windows as a base.
@derpo I was referring to the original article that this is subjective and not objective. And I am not just hating here, there are reasons to believe what I wrote. Windows was never designed for handheld PCs, while SteamOS is specifically designed for that purpose. So expressing my opinion does not make me a hater. Although, I do not like Windows, but that is not the point of my message. When you say I am just a hater, then you discount my opinion.
Ok, it was just a meme. But memes are often used to say something in a funny or sarcastic way. So let's start a war now. ;-) wink, wink
The dumbest thing about that statement is that nothing stops them from installing Windows on the Deck. I would never want to, but if someone felt that Windows was truly better for the device they certainly have the option of using it.
@derin I had the same issue. Some suspicious request was blocked by my security addons and I thought it was just a false alarm. But used the reader mode of Firefox to make it readable: https://i.imgur.com/F4yv5VR.png
Stability is important and the Asus Rog Ally is a response to Steam Deck’s popularity to try to cash in on the concept. So of course the Rog Ally, with an OS that isn’t meant for controller navigation only, and with less time to develop stable drivers, is going to be less stable than a device that has an OS dedicated to it, with an app that’s running specifically developed for almost a decade now for controller navigation. Additionally, Steam included dual trackpads because they knew people would want that precision that we saw in the Steam Controllers.
Asus has more experience overall with hardware development compared to Steam. Asus has been building mobile computers for decades but Steam has been building random gaming devices for almost a decade now. The PC mobile console was Valve’s original concept but I bet if Asus started on it when Steam did, we’d see Asus on top. As of now, Steam has a fighting chance to keep ahead of Asus.
I don't know what anyone would expect from the company that brings us corporate malware? Seriously the ROG services are ridiculously invasive and difficult to get rid of and have a reputation for a reason.
All that invasion just for a terrible program that can hardly sync your lights.
I’m still impressed with how Valve knocked it out of the park with their first attempt at the Steam Deck. I really hope that Asus gets their shit together and starts to make the ROG Ally shine, because that will only encourage more competitors, which should push everyone to keep providing good support and develop even better products.
Seriously! My favorite thing about handhelds today (like 3DS and Switch) is that I can put it to sleep and come back and jump right back into a game. Impressed Valve pulled it off. And it’s going to be hard to buy other handhelds without that feature.
As a portable it's their first, but they have been trying different things in hardware with Steam Link, Steam Controller and Valve Index. They've built up some experience.
Yes, what I was trying to get at is that they learned from failures too. Nobody cared about the Steam Link devices, so they made-up for it with Steam OS and Proton on the Deck.
You’re forgetting their “failures”. Steam machines, steam link, and the steam controller all received praise to varying degrees but commercially they did awful. All the lessons directly led to the steam deck. That’s also why it feels so complete even though it’s their first release in this space.
The worst thing IMO is the apparent lack of custom Rom support. The latest to still support it would be the Edge 30. Using an Edge 20, it’s more than enough for me. It took a long time to roll out Android 13, but for that they integrated their (non intrusive and actually useful) apps very well.
Grow up bro. You can’t store apps on SD cards anyways, get an external SSD for photos. Headphone jacks usually sounds worse than most external USB dongle DACs anyways.
The Moto X (2014)/(2nd gen) was such an awesome phone with a solid build.
I bought it in 2015 at a huge discount instead of the One Plus 1. I used it till the end of 2019 until the battery gave in & the USB port became useless.
Except for the smaller battery size & ok-ish camera, everyone had praises for that phone. My favourite part was it’s shape & software.
It received the Android 5 & 6 updates even before summer Nexus phones. And the updates were stable. Times were wild back then.
Taking on the pixel 8 without actual software support or hardware features like expandable storage to back them up. Why would you not get the pixel 8, which would get 7 years of support and replacement parts, unlike Motorola. Not wise of the author to make the comparison to the pixel.
I had a motorola phone once and it didn’t have a compass. Yes, I mean the type that shows you where North is. It was a Moto G4. A lot of apps just had seizures because what phone lacks a compass
Is there something special about an audio jack that USB-C can’t do? And my past experience with SD cards has been consistently poor; prone to corruption and slow-ass writes.
In addition to what others have mentioned, you also can’t use USBC adapter for the headphones and charge it the same time, without getting another weird, likely flaky, and definitely more bulky adapter.
Slow writes are generally true, I suspect for similar reasons that most usb sticks suck: trade off between price, capacity, longevity, and thermals. I’ve used a 1TB sd card for years withoutany issues, but now have everything on a NAS instead, so the slot sits unused.
USB-C audio isn’t simple. Does the phone have built in DAC with usb pass through (most dont or its poor quality), or do you need usb DAC? Also, not all usb DACs will work on every device.
Sure, yeah, taking on the Pixel without specifying the number of years of OS and feature updates and without GrapheneOS support. Pretty good title for the post
No word on how long it will get software support though. With everyone else going to 5 or 7 years of updates, Motorola’s typical 2 year support cycle is a huge negative.
My ex back in like… 2015? Bought a Motorola phone. It PROMISED the next version of Android, aka, 1 singular update. It never got it.
Everyone was so pissed, Motorola made an announcement that it was going to stick to their word, and then over a year went by and I think they released a beta to a certain country, and then never actually fully released it.
So they didn’t even give 1 year of updates that they promised on all of the marketing material. Good luck with 2.
Hell, I dealt with that all the way back in 2010/2011 with the Cliq XT. It was supposed to get Android 1.6, and Moto kept stringing everyone along until after Android 2.0 came out, when they quietly stopped saying an update would come. Worst part is, IIRC the Cliq (same exact phone hardware wise, except with a physical keyboard) received the promised update.
Ever since then, I’ve sworn off Moto aside from the Z2 Force which I managed to get new for like $250, and even that one became my rooted plaything until the charging port fried itself last year.
Moto, aside from the brief time they were part of Google, has always been awful about software updates, unfortunately.
Haha this happened to me almost verbatim except it was an LG phone.
Big “we already got their money, fuck 'em” energy. Made me decide to aggressively avoid all LG products going forward.
Best part was there was a bug in the version of their Android I was stuck with that would cause the phone to randomly shut off if charging overnight. I think I eventually installed a custom ROM which fixed it.
My LG G3 was my last LG phone. Not to mention how many phone models had boot looping issues because of crappy solder? And they took multiple years to switch to a better solder lol.
I also installed a custom ROM on mine to make it usable.
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