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rmader, to GNOME
@rmader@floss.social avatar

For app folks: IMHO we need to think about what to do with Totem / Gnome Videos. It has not yet been ported to , which is increasingly becoming an issue.

Apart from not fitting nicely UI wise, it prevents us from using the newly introduced hardware offloading (zero-copy playback) and, crucially, from (properly) supporting HDR content going forward.

I.e. we either need a port - or should consider making an alternative a core app to focus on.

Short 🧵

rmader,
@rmader@floss.social avatar

One option based on #GStreamer and #gjs would be Clapper (https://github.com/Rafostar/clapper).

IMO a solid choice, but surely needs some polishing.

tbernard,
@tbernard@mastodon.social avatar

@rmader As others have already said we've long wanted this from the design side, but so far there hasn't been a successful effort to get a port over the line (or a replacement in shape), and a new design implemented.

In case anyone wants to give it another try, Allan updated the mockups very recently: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/app-mockups/-/blob/master/videos/videos-experiments-aday.png

omgubuntu, to ubuntu
@omgubuntu@floss.social avatar

What's your 24.04 codename prediction? 🔮

The first half of the new name appears to be 'Noble', but the animal is (as yet) unknown. Are we getting a Noble Natterjack? Nightingale? Nabarlek?!

Share your guesses below!

ivan,
@ivan@tomica.social avatar

@omgubuntu Natty Narwhal? 😂🤷‍♂️

AdamBishop,
@AdamBishop@floss.social avatar

@omgubuntu 😃 I hit it on the nose! ... er, not the numbat, the name! 😃

vwbusguy, to openSUSE
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar

I wish / would just enable out of box for non-transactional variants. is comparatively slower/clunky and there's not a clearly unsolveable issue with their mutual co-existence.

sfalken,
@sfalken@mastodon.naturalorder.me avatar

@vwbusguy @Conan_Kudo Possible? I honestly haven't a clue

Conan_Kudo,
@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org avatar

@vwbusguy @sfalken Yup. Rawhide as people normally get it is based on composes that go through gating and testing. Bypassing that by adding the Koji internal repo would get you the equivalent of Factory.

Linux_Is_Best, to ubuntu

Ubuntu 23.10 had been released via most of the repos.

There is no ISO, yet. But a command line update worked.

The repos are likely still being populated at this time. If you are told there is no release yet, try later.

qlp,
@qlp@linh.social avatar

@Linux_Is_Best Out of curiosity, what is the bundled version of Python 3?

Linux_Is_Best,

@qlp

Performing a simple:

python3 --version

Reports back as: Python 3.11.6

fedora, to fedora
@fedora@fosstodon.org avatar
xoxys,

@fedora I already have one "selfloaded" with Fedora, but I would take one of these fancy packaging or is it just a mock? :mastojoy:

mpearson,

@kainisenni @fedora I've never replied on fosstodon....so hope this works.
The big benefit of this is you send a really clear signal to companies like Lenovo that Linux demand is real. At the moment market numbers show Linux is 1% - and fighting to invest in supporting Linux and having more Linux is really really hard.
The Linux team here gets supported by those contributions - and at the moment I can't grow the team as sales are low.
If desktop Linux on consumer devices is important to you....

cassidy, to fedora
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

Something I don’t love about Silverblue with GNOME as it is today is that there is little visibility into ongoing OS upgrades, e.g. when rpm-ostree is pulling down a new OS deployment.

And worse, unless I am misunderstanding what is happening, it seems to also make GNOME Software seem to hang when in fact it is doing important (albeit what should be background) work.

cassidy,
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

@jorge @leaferiksen not totally the opposite; for apps I think auto-updating the world by default is great, and I think auto-downloading OS updates (respecting metered data ofc) is great as well. And I don't know that a notification is the right answer.

My underlying want is just a way to help users know what's happening if they want to know, and know when they need to reboot to actually get the latest. Because we see folks just never reboot, so they'd never get OS updates in this model.

leaferiksen,

@cassidy Hadn’t really thought about that. I guess it is a hard call whether something subtle and persistent (eg kde’s system tray restart to update button) can actually work as well as a notification.

popey, to ubuntu

Well this is somewhat exciting. I'm going to the Summit in Riga, Latvia! Thanks to Canonical for sponsoring my travel & accommodation. https://events.canonical.com/event/31/

omgubuntu,
@omgubuntu@floss.social avatar

@popey Wow, congrats dude! What a BEAUTIFUL city to have a few jars in!

sergiusens,

@popey Nice it will be great to see you again!

Linux_Is_Best, to fedora

Fedora's Universal Blue has a flaw.

It always defaults to OS Tree 0 upon reboot. That means all the updates likely on OS Tree 1 are not used, because you would need to manually select it on Grub

This is a problem if you are using a wireless Bluetooth keyboard. Why?

Because until your OS loads, your keyboard does not work. You would need a 2nd keyboard, either physically wired or an older USB wireless, to select OS Tree 1

Bazzite for gamers? Same thing

#Fedora #uBlue #Bazzite #UniversalBlue

Linux_Is_Best,

@kylegospo @jorge

Well that's confusing.

Someone needs to address that.

Linux_Is_Best,

@jorge

Well that's confusing.

Someone needs to address that.

ebassi, to GNOME
@ebassi@mastodon.social avatar

If you maintain a GObject-based library or a language binding, and have 25 minutes to spare for reading ~5700 words on a possible new direction for the GObject type system, I wrote something that might interest you: https://www.bassi.io/articles/2023/08/23/the-mirror/

It's a strawman proposal, and it needs a lot more discussion with various stakeholders; ideally, we're going to have a hackfest about GObject, language bindings, introspection, and the future of the type system.

ebassi,
@ebassi@mastodon.social avatar

@lazarus @GTK I explain a lot of this in my talk about Oxidising GTK that I gave at GUADEC this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVWrllJQJ_s&t=8434s

lazarus,

@ebassi @GTK Thank you your extensive reply. I understand a little bit more.

sesivany, to fedora
@sesivany@floss.social avatar

I just got a (2022) as a new work laptop. The OLED screen looks gorgeous, I can't wait until we fully support HDR in Workstation to see the best of it and I'm also curious how OLED will handle the top bar in terms of screen burn-in.

An aluminium laptop with the lid closed and the Dell logo on it.

sesivany,
@sesivany@floss.social avatar

@j1mc it suspends and wakes up reliably. I haven't had time to look at power consumption during suspend yet. I remember out of the box it was pretty short on the previous model. This model is also sold with Ubuntu, so I hope Dell has some satisfactory solution for Linux users.

vathpela,
@vathpela@better.boston avatar

@sesivany @j1mc but it also has the worst keyboard in the history of the world, and omfg wtf with the hidden power button? TBF, the one I have is an engineering sample as a firmware development test vehicle, but they the keyboard looks the same and I have no reason to believe its hardware is any different.

soller, to KDE
@soller@fosstodon.org avatar

If you are a developer, I want to talk to you about:

  • How can COSMIC apps better fit in when running a Plasma session
  • How can KDE apps better fit in when running a COSMIC session

Please feel free to reply or DM!

nicofee,

@soller A while ago I wrote an explanation of the technical aspects of platform integration in KDE/Qt apps:
https://nicolasfella.de/posts/how-platform-integration-works/

You might find it useful

soller,
@soller@fosstodon.org avatar

@nicofee Thanks! Should also be useful for @redox.

sonny, to GNOME
@sonny@floss.social avatar

We are hiring contractors to work on #GNOME and the #Linux Desktop :linux:

Do you have experience working on Linux desktop technologies? Get in touch with your resume or portfolio stf@gnome.org ✉️

Some areas we are interested in hiring for:

• Flatpak
• Linux desktop accessibility
• Freedesktop / XDG services and components
• Desktop security
• GNOME services and components

@XOrgFoundation @kde @gnome

Boosts welcome!

#freedesktop #KDE #getFediHired #jobs #FLOSS #OpenSource #FreeSoftware

sonny,
@sonny@floss.social avatar

@v02460 done.

sachinkumarsingh092,

@sonny Emailed you. Hopefully I'm not too late 🤞

IvidappAvidapp, to ubuntu

The most annoying thing for me was the huge internet data usage by snap updates but it is better now.

Even though it showed 300mb for a Firefox update, but only consumed 80mb and everything updated and working wonderfully ! 😅 😍 👑

The New app store is beautiful 🙌

(just sharing my experience 😅 )

@ubuntu

jfx,

It’s more of a double edged sword: snaps were great imho when they replaced the mess of old we had going on with thirty or so incompatible ppas.

But why force snaps for central stuff like FF/Chromium and soon Thunderbird?

I just upgraded an old PC and reinstalling Ubuntu meant that all my configs of these apps and then some broke. Snap is using incompatible storage for dotfiles and configurations. And more often than not central Desktop functions like the cursors (atm no hand cursor in FF for me!), sound and common extensions don’t work ootb. For the odd piece of speciality sw I’d had to go hunting for before that’s alright. But not for everyday stuff

Come on canonical, don’t enshittify you great distribution…

IvidappAvidapp,

@jfx Yes..You're right..

codeyarns, to GNOME
@codeyarns@mastodon.social avatar

A few weeks with Ubuntu as desktop and I am reminded of why I always end up switching to Kubuntu (KDE).

For some reason GNOME strives to completely dumb down and simplify the desktop and all its apps. Who is this hypothetical user in 2023 they are designing for who is so new to desktop computing that a few settings/buttons in an app will scare them? 🙄

cassidy,
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

@codeyarns @davidskeck @jmichaelsturm here's the latest: the design team agrees clicking/tapping in any empty space in the path bar or on the current folder should enter the Edit Location mode. 👍 It also makes sense to add it to the menu.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/85#note_1860318

My understanding is that it wouldn't have made as much sense with how the pathbar used to work, but it makes more sense with how it works now. So hopefully we can get that closed soon!

davidskeck,
@davidskeck@mastodon.online avatar

@cassidy @codeyarns @jmichaelsturm extremely awesome. Thanks for tracking this down and providing the updates!

Mehrad, to archlinux
@Mehrad@fosstodon.org avatar

The most annoying thing in pacman is that it does not prioritize archlinux-keyring (or manjaro-keyring) package! It sounds only logical, intuitive, and obvious that if you have all your keys stored in a keyring package and if the package you are upgrading before the keyring has a key change, the upgrade will fail!

#ArchLinux #PacMan

Foxboron,
@Foxboron@chaos.social avatar

@Mehrad @fabiscafe @dvzrv
You misunderstand, and I'm not going to spend more time explaining the problem to you.

Mehrad,
@Mehrad@fosstodon.org avatar

@Foxboron
Thanks for your time so far. Have the following as a token of gratitude:

"Wise Men Speak Because They Have Something To Say; Fools Because They Have To Say Something – Plato"

@fabiscafe @dvzrv

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