@Gargron Come to Glasgow. All the benefits of a university city with a couple of rivers and canals running right through it so you think you're in the country. I came from California and have absolutely no regrets.
You could live there. As long as you can afford the sky-high house prices and put up with millions of tourists clogging up the beautiul landscape for most of the year. You wouldn't have mind that many local people can't afford to live there and have to work seasonal jobs because tourism is the only industry.
I know whereof I speak. I lived in Keswick for 4 years. The Lake District is a poisoned picture perfect postcard.
@Gargron as a tourist the U.K. does indeed have some incredibly stunning places. It appears within the replies you are looking to move here - I strongly recommend you review the broadband connection and other services such as heating (a lot of places are still in oil boilers or very old inefficient electric systems). Those gorgeous scenic areas are unlikely to have great broadband & mobile connections unless you’re in a popular well built up town - and even then it’s still 50:50.
@Gargron you know that old adage, "be careful what you wish for"?
The uk is a good place to live in many ways, but we are incredibly flawed, lots of racist's & Xenophobe's (and other phobe's too) we've a large section of society that can't see that the Tory's are bad for the UK & keep voting for them, but that demographic is dying out, Slowly
I think in maybe 20-30 yrs time the uk will be a better place to live, brexshitters & idiot Tory's will be long dead, brexit might be reversed even!
@Gargron agreed it's beautiful.. sometimes easy to ignore or take for granted here, or we just moan about the weather or trains, but then when you stand and take in a view like that you realise it's all worth it.
For what it's worth, think again. The waters you are admiring will in all likelihood be contaminated. Wait for regime change, then not only will it be an easier proposition, but as the inevitable swing against all that the last 13 odd years have stood for kick in, an exiting and welcoming place to go.
@Gargron Rydal Water is a small body of water in the central part of the English Lake District, in the county of Cumbria. It is located near the hamlet of Rydal, between Grasmere and Ambleside in the Rothay Valley.
@Gargron what's the reasoning for that? I feel like since they left EU everything got more complicated for people living there. But maybe that's just a very subjective thing.
@Gargron I think everyone I know living in the UK is looking at trying to do the inverse migration, to get away from the austerity and terrible politics
Places that are pretty can still be shit to live in (I used to live in the UK myself)
I'd suggest asking the locals about cost of living and how they feel about immigrants.. it might be an eye opener
@Gargron Crikey, I wouldn't want to move back. I escaped 3 years before Brexit, and just about everyone I know back there has spent the intervening years trying to find ways to get out.
@Gargron Plenty of us wouldn't mind leaving #brexshit island. But Putin and his 17.4m #brexshitters have made that vastly more difficult - we can no longer just get on a boat or a plane or a train.
@Gargron Oh man, same here. The visa paperwork requirements are so daunting, I have a hard time getting started. You should have pretty good chances on the Global Talent visa, but it’s so much stuff to scrape together. Hope you can make it work!
@Gargron good luck 👍 and what part of the UK do you want to move to? Be warned, I'm in the UK and whilst yes it is a beautiful country in many ways it isn't all roses and green rolling hills. It has bad bits too.
@Gargron I can't imagine how terrible where you live must be if the UK is better. If you do move here and decide on somewhere rural make sure that you check the broadband situation out first.
@Gargron the government is not the people, so good luck. You should also go look at Scotland and Wales. And then Ireland. So much stunning scenery, and so many good friendly people. Crap politicians, but that's universal.
As someone else who moved here, it is a very beautiful country.
You can make jokes like "if that's the UK then there's probably poop in the water", and those jokes are funny, but it doesn't take away from the beauty.
@Gargron@RolloTreadway@passenger the uk is a hellscape that has a few nice things, but as a country it is broadly racist, xenophobic, transphobic, homophobic and has a two party system where both parties want to continue the same thing but in different colored ties. the high streets all look the same and nearly everybody born there with an iota of self awareness wants to leave but often can't due to Brexit, it is an island prison and would be better off sinking into the sea
@Gargron@RolloTreadway@passenger in all seriousness, if you move to the UK? please move to Scotland or Wales. Ideally, Scotland, as they are most likely to leave the "union." England is terrible.
@Gargron if this can help here is my experience in the UK:
I live in Sheffield, cheaper than London, close to the Peak District and plenty of outdoor beautiful spaces and parks.
I moved here in 2018, so before Brexit, but I had to apply for settlement status and I easily got it.
Problems? Yes there are and after Brexit even more and a post here wouldn't be enough.
Kids are doing well, my wife got a permanent job in a primary school and more, despite the tories I won't go back to Italy.
@Gargron Not wishing to dampen your enthusiasm, but England is getting worse and worse. If you must live in the UK, choose Scotland or Wales, both are as beautiful as the Lake District.
@Gargron I’ve been here over a decade from the US and it’s one of the best life choices I made. Come to Scotland though, cost of living is more realistic vs England and the NHS is better here
@Gargron as I'm sure many Brits are telling you, now isn't a great time to move here... Our healthcare system is collapsing, our government is asset stripping and distributing the proceeds amongst the already wealthy, inflation has made even basic items very expensive, the property market is still insane, people are stressed...
That said, there are still only a few other places I'd be happy to live - namely Scotland and Ireland. If you're set on it, best of luck and welcome in advance 🙂
@Shes_Gabrielle I’m British as well, so I understand some of the typical complaints 😜 But I think some Brits base their entire identity on hating where they live.
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With your skills you should get extra 'points' in the visa system. We'd love to have you here - and if you're in Cambridge you'll find sympatico people (no hills there though!)
@Gargron Unless you have personal reasons I wouldnt. The UK is not in a good way and will take many many years to recover. You’ve got plenty beautiful nature in Germany too. How about the alpe region?
@Gargron I wanted that years ago, but life got in the way. Back then, it would’ve been easy. Now, after Brexit, and me getting older and sicker, it is something to think about thoroughly. Afaik you need to be rich to afford our standard in healthcare in the UK, and life in general. I’ve lived in the US, UK and Germany. Even now, Germany still has the best social net. But my heart will always have that soft spot for the UK and then there’s planes…
@Gargron yeah sorry about that part, Boris Johnson sort of messed it up for everyone. Hope you make it through though, and you're right on the views. We do have some truly breathtaking scenery here that too many people who visit never see because they obsess over London.
@Gargron really? Why the hell would you want to live here? Consider Ireland, same beautiful countryside, but still part of the EU and not run by a troupe of incapable clowns.
@Gargron You've got free movement to Ireland, incl for a British spouse. It has a vibrant tech sector. Cheap & easy travel to from UK. Higher standard of living (ahead of UK on every metric of human wellbeing). Beautiful readily accessible and uncrowded countryside. You can recruit from entire EU. Oh, and more people take German in school leaving exam in Ireland than UK (w 1/14th of the population) - - it's a bit less insular (17% non native-born, and most people have lived abroad).
@yacc143@Gargron Indeed. My wife and many others have reacquired EU citizenship by becoming citizens. However, this isn't something that will last forever. The day after reunification Ireland will end the Common Travel Area and join Schengen. Reunification will happen sooner than many expect.
@Gargron As beautiful as it is here, from the perspective of running a social media organisation, you're better avoiding it because of the new Internet Act thing...
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