joshuaphilll,
@joshuaphilll@spore.social avatar

I'm a Jew who's been afraid at Palestine protests.

Then, I learned more. I learned that I didn't know what people were chanting. I learned there was a lot to unlearn.

Then I decided I don't want my identity used to shield a genocidal apartheid state.

https://www.jphilll.com/p/being-afraid-does-not-mean-youre

msbellows,
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@joshuaphilll "Being afraid does not mean you're under attack."

Man, that's powerful.

RememberUsAlways,
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@joshuaphilll

Yet here you are, joining in the antisemitism and judging Israel before a trial.

brennansv,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll There already was a trial. The International Criminal Court case against Israel was focused on genocide and has ordered Israel to prevent and punish incitement of genocide as well as provide humanitarian aid. Then Israel hunted down and killed 7 aid workers from World Central Kitchen on April 1st. Investigations into Israeli actions are ongoing. There will be consequences for Israel for these war crimes and crimes against humanity.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/19/whats-the-icj-case-against-israels-illegal-occupation-of-palestine

RememberUsAlways,
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Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll also its really funny that I have to wait to judge someone under a trail. If I want to criticize them I can do it whenever I want

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o

Look man. Genocide isn't a fucking parking ticket.

@joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll your right. which is why we should call it out when it happens.

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o
I can't find an expert on the subject. History don't care about your bias.

@joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll I don't need an expert to know that bombing civilians is genocide. Much like I dont need to be an expert to know that Russia is committing warcrimes up in Ukraine

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o

The number of bombs that have fallen since the end of WW2 is not measurable. By your logic, every rocket ever launched at Israel was a war crime.

@joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll what are you saying? is bombing civilians not genocide

RememberUsAlways,
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Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll I dont care what some 80 year old law says its still fucked up and genocide. Dont need a expert degree to figure that out

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o

Even the Nazis were given trial. Your view of justice is clear.

@joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll killing unarmed civillians is bad. and 2 wrongs dont make a right. I can freely criticizes anyone as long it is non-discrimitory or bigoted. and nothing will ever convince me that simply calling out the murders of unarmed civilians is antisemitic.

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o

The point is, you are missing the obvious. Unarmed civilians are killed in war every day for 3000 years.
Yet this is the hill you chose to die on. I wish you luck in ending 3000 years of conflict. I'm tryin to do the same thing by focusing on the hostages who also are suffering human rights violations. There will never be peace as long as terrorists are allowed to take hostages, extracting demands from everyone.

@joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll yes and theres nothing wrong calling it out for what it is. genocide No matter if its hidden under the excuse of "thats just war". Just because others did it does not mean its ok. Im never going to end it. But if everyone acted like you and refused to condemn it. it would mean governments could get away with a lot more

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o
I'll condem genocide when a court tells me who the fuck to condem.

Until then, good day.

@joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll
>I need judges to tell me killing civilians is bad. Even tho judges are biased and corrupt

Im just going to fucking say what were all thinking and I dont give a shit if I get banned. If they weren't jews you'd be crying a whole different story

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o
Your goal posts are moving. Might want to check that.

Good day.

@joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll Changing my goals lol. I never stepped back I just said you dont need a million dollar courthouse and judge to tell you what you can very clearly see

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o
History don't care about your bias.

@joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll Its not bias its genocide. In fact its the definition of genocide. frankly your the biased one. If they were any other religion you would be claiming something else.

Mogleg,
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@Hunterrules0_o
But it’s much worse than that. The people being killed are being kept in an open air prison, the most densely populated area on earth, have their food and water controlled by their occupier, are utterly dehumanised, and are now being bombed indiscriminately and starved by the settler colonial apartheid state backed by the west.

If it’s not genocide I have no other word for it, and hasbarists will split hairs about definitions..
@RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll

RememberUsAlways,
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@Mogleg
You could call it Jihad. No reason to be shy about October 7th.

@Hunterrules0_o @joshuaphilll

Mogleg,
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@RememberUsAlways
Ok, so Israel is engaged in jihad and is committing genocide. Does that work? Seems like an odd mix of words and meaning to me but have at it.

@Hunterrules0_o @joshuaphilll

RememberUsAlways,
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@Mogleg

You must have forgotten.

Hamas declared Jihad on Israel in the streets of Gaza on October 7th 2023
Israel VOTED to mobilize their fighters and respond.

Every nation is responsible for the safety and prosperity of it's civilian population. Hamas has failed to defend their Jihad and continues to deny the hostages their human rights.

@Hunterrules0_o @joshuaphilll

phaedral,
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RememberUsAlways,
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Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @phaedral @Mogleg @joshuaphilll Who you talking too? This dont make any sense considering ISREAL is the ones dropping the bombs. if you think calling out civilian killing is antisemitic then fuck it I guess im antisemitic. I will glady put human lives over shit. So answer the question? How does this justify isreals actions

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o
Neither Hamas nor Netanyahu will be negotiating the peace.

That's likely how.
@phaedral @Mogleg @joshuaphilll

Hunterrules0_o,
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@RememberUsAlways @phaedral @Mogleg @joshuaphilll No until they free palienstien. but I guess that's too difficult then just bombing kids

RememberUsAlways,
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@Hunterrules0_o
They who? Free Palestine for whom to manage?

Do you understand you are one more sentence away from "Make America great again"?



@phaedral @Mogleg @joshuaphilll

gooba42,
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@Hunterrules0_o @RememberUsAlways @joshuaphilll I'm getting really fed up with the "Hamas is the real villain because they're using civilians as human shields. Israel is obligated to call their bluff by genociding Gaza!"

Under what ethical system do thousands and thousands of wrongs make a right?

RememberUsAlways,
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@gooba42
Seems to be the "eye for an eye" system of Jihad but I'm not an expert. The hostages have a right to speak with the Red Cross.
@Hunterrules0_o @joshuaphilll

Ralph058,
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@joshuaphilll Most American gun owners would disagree with the premise. That is the raison d'etre for their ownership.

msquebanh,
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@Ralph058 @joshuaphilll Most American gun owners aren't the brightest bunch.

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