Good -- I hope they do. But more than that, I hope that the userbase doesn't return.
I don't care if they choose kbin/Lemmy/Squabbles(?)/Pr0nhub Comment section/Whatever or a combination of those things -- but I hope they don't return to Reddit.
This is an exciting new opportunity for the internet, imo. Why rely on a single point of failure?
At this point I hope this blackout stays in place until they reverse their decisions on everything and fire spez. If not I'm done with Reddit for good.
Kbin seems more than sufficient as a replacement to me.
The only things I'm missing on kbin are all features of Apollo, not Reddit, so there's literally ZERO reason for me to go back.
I'm sure it's just a massive influx of lurkers (and some users) along with not great server infra right now, but I'm dealing with 30s page loads and constant Cloudflare token refreshes. Still better than reddit.
I think it's because Kbin is like the most popular Fediverse-based reddit alternative and their server is overloaded. I imagine it'll get much better over the next week or so.
It's seen such a massive influx of traffic lately without the servers to effectively support it. It'll improve (I hope.) I already like it better here. Fuck reddit.
the subs themselves won't be gone. They're still there. Reddit'll just remove ownership of the subs and install mods that they approve of.
The only way to end reddit is to get the users gone. but 90% of users don't really care if 99% of the content is add driven or not. as long as they get their dopamine fix.
I was kind of hoping for a brief return between tomorrow and the end of the month for one last binge and so my old subs could share what platform they'd moved to. But so be it. This was going to happen eventually.
I am actively experimenting with both. First post here! I find lemmy/kbin has a huge potential, but bloated initial experience. (Was cloud flare really necessary?). While squabbles is light and easy to get into, but less overall potential.
Yeah, that is going to happen to all the bigger subs they think bring value to the site. They'll probably be some power hungry user in as mod and ruin the sub.
Yikes! That will only render the Reddit self-sabotage to be irreversible. It really has become morbidly entertaining watching Spez's overly fragile ego result in that site burning itself to the ground in such spectacular fashion over the last few days. If it wasn't for the third party app devs getting screwed over financially in the process after the rug was pulled from under them.
This place looks to be a silver lining to this whole saga at least. It definitely feels more homely over here with its throwbacks to how forums used to be. It feels like people can actually have a proper conversation again.
It really does feel good to not be constantly walking on eggshells out of fear of saying the 'wrong thing', or not agreeing with the subreddit's agenda (and holy FUCK is it nice not having to scroll past the first 30+ unfunny quippy replies to find a serious comment.) I'm honestly happy this all went down. Even if it doesn't kill the website (which I'm sure will be the case), they've shown their hand more than enough times now to the point longtime users like myself (12 years, personally) are unwilling to return. I like it here far more, and the overall concept is massively appealing to me.
@Melpomene
I think point b) is incorrect, we just incorrectly assumed we are reddits userbase, reddits userbase are the advertisers that actually pay them, we are simply the products they believed they could milk more out of.
This would not be nearly the huge issue we are making it out to be if they actually designed a good in house interface, cut off the api access then slowly ramped up the ads, but it seems greed has gotten in the way and I hope they pay for their misstep dearly.
I saw the 48 hours as Reddit's opportunity to work things out. They didn't even try so I've deleted my account and moved on. Moving from Digg to Reddit when Digg set it's house on fire back in the day was a solid upgrade. I'm looking forward to seeing what develops to fill this space again!
Thanks for the reminder! I saved a bunch of interesting and useful stuff with that interface, I should definitely grab it all before I go.
I'm still conflicted about deleting my accounts tbh. I shared a few useful things on Reddit, and even followed up on questions that I'd later answered for myself. Someone might find it useful, and it seems a shame to take it back just to spite a corporation.
I downloaded all my old comments and I'll certainly use them as a resource here if the same questions come up again. It'll be a while before kbin.social shows up in search engines the way Reddit does, though.
I just went over to read the r/ModCoord thread discussed in the Verge article, and wow…. A lot of toxic, nasty comments in there from salty jerks throwing tantrums because they don’t care about anyone other than themselves.
Definitely not the kind of thing that makes you want to go back to Reddit….
Good. A two-day blackout was never going to accomplish much since Reddit could just wait it out. Still, the end result is probably going to be Reddit removing mods and trying to replace them in order to get the subreddits public again. That might end the blackout, but it's not really going to solve any of the problems that led to the blackout in the first place.
We'll have to see how much, but it's definitely added a lot more viability to Reddit's competitors. It did a lot more than I thought a two day blackout would.
It's probably because I'm younger on the internet, but this is the biggest and liveliest migration event I've ever seen! It might be successful to the point that it won't be just a Reddit alternative, but an entire thing of its own, and if not, I personally already find this my new home. The community is better here anyway
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