📢Entire mod team on r/mildlyinteresting (and more subs) removed and locked out of their accounts after changing their rules upon community's request. (They're also switching subs BACK to SFW)

EDIT: GO DM MODS OF YOUR FAVORITE SUBREDDITS AND POLITELY ASK ABOUT MIGRATION!: something as simple as "Hey, I love this community but I no longer use reddit, will you guys be making a community on Kbin or other alternatives? Let me know please, thanks." will work!! We need more voices encouraging migration!

PART 1

PART 2

ModCodeofConduct switching subs to SFW

POST ABOUT MODS FORCIBLY SWITCHING SUBS BACK TO SFW (teddit)

"What the users want" my ass. Reddit doesn't give 2 shits about what the users want.

If you guys wanna do more and get back at reddit, consider using a program that has gathered hundreds of their advertiser emails an emailing them to try and stop them from advertising, there is a email guide inside as well! USE BCC, NOT TO OR IT WILL SHOW ALL THE COMPANIES EVERYONE YOU EMAILED.

edit:

r/interestingasfuck removed as well

r/ThanksIHateit mod team removed

r/self mod team removed

edit 2:
from r/mildlyinteresting. restoration after they saw the backlash or mod team replacement? we dont know quite yet

r/mildlyinteresting update

edit 3: Reddit removed moderators behind the latest protests before restoring a few of them - restored by a different admin than the one that removed them...

michikade,

According to the comments of that thread, they’ve removed the moderator team for r/interestingasfuck and r/tihi too.

Looks like they’re going after the ones that went NSFW but I don’t want to spend enough time trying to find all the rest of them.

finder585,

Looks like going NSFW is an effective form of protest.

Senseibu,

Forumula1 went NSFW lets see what happens there

nonexcludable,

Jesus, this is escalating fast. I never actually thought admins would go to such crazy lengths. Such pathetic desperation!

Thalyssa,
Thalyssa avatar

"The protests didn't do anything"

"Waaah, my ad reveue 😭"

abff08f4813c,
abff08f4813c avatar

We knew that this was a possibility since day one. The mods took a stand anyways, risking it all for the community. Still a shame to see it happen.

someguy3,

What's there to risk? Their unpaid labor? This is what spez doesn't seem to realize

abff08f4813c,
abff08f4813c avatar

Well, getting locked out is no fun. But yeah, you're right, reddit loses out more (on the unpaid labour of love).

The_Empty_Tuple,
The_Empty_Tuple avatar

I fully expected Reddit to fight dirty, but it's still surreal watching the iron hand come down against the community. Silver lining, I hope this helps accelerate the migration to the fediverse.

nonexcludable,

I remember ten years ago sharing beers with admins who visited London. Back when there was a push for developing local communities and Global Reddit Meetup Day. There was good vibes and a feeling of mutual respect.

I met my wife through Reddit.

I still have so much affection for the site in my heart.

It's just wild to me how much has changed.

Really glad I never got that Snoo tattoo now.

kinyutaka,

The exact reason not to get tattoos of weird corporate shit.

fckgwrhqq2yxrkt,

Well that and paying to become a walking advertisement.

Derproid,

So what you're saying is since Lemmy isn't corporate...

The_Empty_Tuple,
The_Empty_Tuple avatar

Reddit isn't the first online community I watched outgrow itself into the grave. I guess it's just the cycle of social media. Here's hoping this time's different.

livejamie,

Myspace, Livejournal, Facebook, Digg, Twitter, Reddit

Jcb2016,
Jcb2016 avatar

u/spez is a Dictator

someguy3,

iS tHiS hOw I bUilD gOoDwIlL wItH vOlUnTeEr MoDs?

Fauxreigner,

That's the fun part, now they have to actually find folks to effectively moderate that sub.

brianshatchet,

You'll just get a bunch of opportunist Dr. Breens.

someguy3,

Next!

livejamie,

r/redditrequest is full of people excited to do so, people on a crusade to "restore" "vandalized" communities

wowbagger,

Lots of people say they want to do the work. Lots of people aren't capable or willing to spend the actual time required.

Fauxreigner,

Sure, the question is if they can do so effectively.

danc4498,

Surprised he hasn't started charging mods a fee to use mod tools

abff08f4813c,
abff08f4813c avatar

Outrageous! We should invite the mod team here

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Tbh everyone just needs to leave reddit

Let the bots take over

It's always been Stormfront 2.0 anyway

Fuck reddit

stepheneb,
@stepheneb@ruby.social avatar

@LinkOpensChest_wav @minnieo delete all your posts and comments first. I did it manually … it was interesting to all those bits float by.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I used Power Delete Suite, and I overwrote my comments instead of merely deleting. That makes the data even less useful to reddit.

stepheneb,
@stepheneb@ruby.social avatar

@LinkOpensChest_wav That makes total sense in order to make reddit less valuable. It only took me an hour and I did it manually because wanted to see my comments -- there were many kind and interesting things I wrote. It was kind of sad and it also felt right to just go.

Harry,

That is the solution.

Harry,

I just deleted my reddit account. Fuck that bs.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I've overwritten anything useful from mine, and I'll be deleting mine after June 30. Not that I am using reddit, but I want to contribute to that drop in users that will come once 3PA are disabled.

liminis,

The only good that can truly come of this at this stage is sabotaging Huffman's hopes of cashing out for a second time, after he sold his stake for a ""mere"" 10 million back in the day.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Imagine having more money than anyone can spend in a lifetime and users who create the content for you. All you have to do is sit on your ass and do and say nothing, but then imagine what a pants-on-head stupid fool you'd have to be to do anything to mess that up, to let your ego totally disrupt the sweet deal you've got going. That's Steve Huffman -- the king of all losers.

ErraticDragon,
ErraticDragon avatar

You know how there are posts all over Reddit (and even all over here) saying "what's with the porn on r/interestingasfuck?" or "I don't know what's going on with John Oliver"?

It's because of them that the "protests" must continue. Raising awareness is the point. Only a small percentage even know what's going on.

Reddit would love for everyone to quietly go away, they'll pretend nothing happened and move on with a small chunk of users missing but still growing.

danc4498,

Reddit's relevance came from the people that used the app, not the app itself. If Reddit wants to fuck over the people that made the app what it is today, they will end up useless.

Reddit is not like Twitter in that it thrived from mass population of people using it. It thrived from quality users that provided quality content.

MoonRocketeer,

I just hope this Reddit migration doesn't turn out like South Park's Walmart skit lol. The town boycotts walmart and then supports a small business only for it to become walmart too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq7ysA7agNE

minnieo,
minnieo avatar

it wont happen because the fediverse is decentralized. if this instance goes to shit, we simply move on to another, without needing to abandon the entire platform

greensky,

That won't happen here

btaf45,

That is mildly interesting.

Sir_Kevin,

This is why I don't want to push too hard to bring the masses here. If every derp from reddit shows up it's just going to dilute the quality of lemmy.

kingthrillgore,
kingthrillgore avatar

Agreed.

tal,
tal avatar

Ehhh. I think that there's value to having a large userbase. First, a large userbase means that there are going to tend to be more people to provide quality content. Second, some people contribute content because they want to reach a large audience -- I understand that this is one reason that /r/askhistorians decided not to participate.

None of this is to say that this won't have a negative impact on Reddit. And I think that the observation, which I've seen some other places, is that these changes probably disproportionately impacts people who were contributing content. Just that I don't think that one can reduce the value of having a large userbase to nil either.

52fighters,
52fighters avatar

I could see some disgruntled users intentionally trolling and spamming the subs just to trash it in revenge for what Reddit is doing to them.

MementoMori_,
MementoMori_ avatar

did you see that one guy’s hairy butthole? lmao

LostRedditor,

This is the way.

Since they announced API pricing I migrated to lemmy and never looked back.

dismalnow,
dismalnow avatar

@LinkOpensChest_wav

@minnieo

It's always been Stormfront 2.0 anyway

Exception taken.

Don't get me wrong: it has been an absolute dogshit downward spiral for at least the last five years, but what it has become bares almost no resemblance to what it was 15 years ago - or even 8 years ago.

It had great potential and utility. All of it squandered via some of the worst decisions possible. Each of which ignored the current user base in favor of a quick buck.

It needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.

Echoing: Fuck Reddit.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

When I joined in 2011, it was already a bastion of pedophilia and bigotry, so I'm not sure which era you're talking about

In my experience, reddit has always been a dogshit web site

dismalnow,
dismalnow avatar

I understand now, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

That type of content comes with the territory, and could easily be avoided until relatively recently if you didn't go looking for it.

What was arguably the most diverse and far reaching collection of individual message boards cannot be filed away as a hyperbolic monolith of the perceived horrors such a place will inevitably contain.

Whatever your interest, reddit had a lively discussion for it. The cancer you describe is a result of the society it allowed to publish. Further, it metastisized from it's self-contained cesspools when they were closed.

It's clear that either your experience on the site is narrow, while the site is extremely wide - or you're retconning your prior experience based upon your current opinion.

density,
density avatar

PSA: The shitty website this person mentioned bears NO RESEMBLANCE to reddit.

It's always been S---------- 2.0 anyway

that is a really fucked up thing to say. idk who you are or what are your motivations.

making an equivalency between reddit and a 100% white supremacist nazi website is:

a) promoting that website

b) saying that website is similar to reddit. Does S----------- have the variety of users and topics as reddit? No! Whatever your criticism of reddit, however over tolerant reddit was of some really shitty communities, it was not founded explicitly and exclusively as a way of promoting genocide and violence.

Your comparison serves only to uplift S------------. Which may or may not be your intention.

LinkOpensChest_wav, (edited )

It's been overrun by white supremacists since I first joined in 2011, and that's never changed.

Check any popular sub on r/all, and they're the prevailing voice that's never silenced. r/PublicFreakout, r/mildlyinfuriating, r/interestingasfuck, r/AskReddit and r/unpopularopinion are just a few examples of subreddits where white supremacists run rampant. It's so bad that I deleted my first account due to receiving weekly homophobic death threats, which went ignored by the mods and admins.

Reddit has always been a bastion of white supremacy and pedophilia under the guise of "free speech." That's demonstrably true. The whole "leans left" thing is just more propaganda.

Edit: I maintain that reddit was founded specifically to platform hate speech. It's certainly been consistently pursuing that goal

But you are correct in saying that reddit is not the same as Stormfront. It is much worse than Stormfront in that most users don't perceive the white supremacist subtext in the majority of threads on popular subs

5redie8,

Were we even using the same site? What the fuck are you talking about?

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I'm talking about how reddit is infested with white supremacist propaganda.

It's also infested with people who become inappropriately aggro in the midst of the slightest disagreement. Looks like you can relate to that

zeda,

Yep, finally using this site lol. Admins have gone full dictator over there.

So we get a boost and upvote here eh? Neat

JWBananas,
JWBananas avatar

Upvote = Like
Boost = Retweet

Gabbro,
Gabbro avatar

Which I still find weird because I never followed anyone on my anti-social media anyway.

AdmiralSnackbar,
AdmiralSnackbar avatar

My understanding is that upvotes don't do anything themselves, boost functions like a reddit upvote in that it will bring a comment or article to the top of the queue. I use it as a 'people should see this' button.

JWBananas,
JWBananas avatar

You can think of kbin as a hybrid of Lemmy and Mastodon (and it federates with both through ActivityPub). It has interfaces both for communities (magazines) and for uncategorized posts/status updates/tweets (microblogs).

someguy3,

Ironically this API issue will kill bots, which was needed.

HidingCat,

Spam bots don't really need the API access level that calls for the increased fees.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Nah bots will still function

You think they're asking permission to access the API? lol

Yewb,

It will only slow them temporarily you don't need api for bots

troybot,
troybot avatar

Correct. Now the bots will be constantly scraping the pages of every post which will be a much bigger burden on their servers.

Yewb,

Exactly spez forgot why they needed an api

Skray,
Skray avatar

It's funny, years ago websites switched to openly available APIs specifically to lessen server burden because of bots. Now they're swapping away from APIs because of bots, but those bots are just gonna go back to scraping.

cptapathetic,

Sounds like Reddit has a skill issue.

Kichae,

Yeah, it'll only kill the useful ones in the long run.

CoderKat,
CoderKat avatar

Yeah. The unethical bots will just use scrapers, as they already do for the many websites that don't offer APIs. They're already violating ToS, so they don't care. Ethical ones won't have that option (at least not past the fairly low quota).

ErraticDragon,
ErraticDragon avatar

From my understanding, they already aren't using the API.

If the spam bots were using the API, then Reddit would have been able to shut them down trivially. Part of logging in via API requires a "client ID" that uniquely identifies the creator of the app/bot being used.

They could theoretically have each bot account create its own client ID, but even that would be a pretty obvious thing to look for.

IninewCrow,
IninewCrow avatar

Also ... Reddit is a private business where people were allowed to come in to chat and talk ... don't act surprised when the owners and managers change their minds for whatever reason and decide to kick you out.

It's the company's space, like the lobby of a shopping mall ... people are freely allowed to come in, sit down and chat .. don't be surprised if the owners of the mall decide one day that they no longer like you any more and bring security in to escort you out.

You have no rights or privileges on a private social media site ... you have temporary permissions .. and those can be changed, disregarded, forgotten or done away with at the discretion of the owners at any time for any reason.

LEAVE REDDIT ... you're on someone else's lawn and they don't like you any more.

zd,

Stormfront 2.0? lol what?

LinkOpensChest_wav,

It's sometimes hard to see when you're deep in it, and one can even become numb to the far right wing subtext when one visits reddit frequently enough, but reddit has been very consistently and deliberately platforming white supremacists since its inception.

okbin,
okbin avatar

they won't

i tried to move my 100k subscriber sub to kbin (i also offered two different chatrooms)

6 came to kbin and people started attacking me for having the sub closed (one person even resorted to transphobia like jesus fucking christ) and being "political" and one person even made their own version of my subreddit

moving is too much work (it's actually not that much work, but since we now need two videos playing at the same time and can only watch those vids for 30 seconds, everything is "too much work"). that's why people are still on facebook, twitter, instagram, and tiktok.

i'm very glad there's an acceptable amount of activity on the "threadiverse" right now... but i just don't have hope that everyone will leave.

millions,
millions avatar

Guessing it’s an owl house sub judging by your profile pic?

okbin,
okbin avatar

nope. BPDmemes... which is just fucking sad because BPD is associated with identity issues including gender identity, so in some sense being transphobic can be ableist in that context as well.

i'm letting it go, they were probably just really dysregulated (as is the nature of this illness). but i did ban them for all of pride month.

however, my friend and i HAVE seen transphobia in the owl house community and we don't understand?????? there are literally multiple trans characters on the show like why would you be transphobic if you're a fan you. walnut

nickapos,

@okbin it’s ok, people will gradually move out as Reddit deteriorates. Eventually most interesting people will be elsewhere, the platform will still exist but it will be an empty shell.
The important thing is for threadiverse to take flight and acquire a sustainable size, the rest will happen in time.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I'm not sure what the skill issue is on that sub, but I, a moron, had no more trouble coming here than I did navigating reddit

Those are either bootlickers or bots, who can safely be disregarded

74% of reddit were ignorant assholes anyway, so no loss

HanlonsButterknife,

I don't think getting everyone on Reddit to leave should even be the goal. Reddit was a much better place before the Digg exodus, and Digg's comment section then was a lot like Reddit is now, largely just low-effort, openly hostile flaming. That's probably not something worth bringing over.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I think your post demonstrates that it's a good thing everyone won't be coming here.

okbin,
okbin avatar

kbin has seemed pretty chill so far

Ataraxia,
@Ataraxia@lemmy.world avatar

Right. Who wants to have a community full of those kinds of people.

minnieo,
minnieo avatar

Yes, at this point, there is really no fucking saving it or hoping for changes, they will go as far as they need to go to get their profits back up. It must be abandoned. The only time I ever spend on reddit is to convince people to migrate to kbin or lemmy (nicely, dont be annoying)

Dreckard,

What really worked for me was the https://sub.rehab website. When I found that, it made me realize I need to stick with the people who actually built the subs I love -- the mods. Here I am.

OtakuAltair,

Yup. The good ui really helps sell how big the move is

Whirlgirl9,
Whirlgirl9 avatar

this is great! thank you!

mayglan,
mayglan avatar

Amazing, thank you for posting this.

zd,

My issue with all of this is everything is scattered all over the place now. Many of my followed reddit subs are on lemmy and then some are on other platforms and it's too much to keep track of. So my followed content is going to drop off a lot in general - I refuse to sign up for Lemmy. The name alone annoys me.

minnieo,
minnieo avatar

as long as they move to federated sites, its fine, you can access them all from kbin as usual. but if they decide to make their own site, or go somewhere centralized (ew) then yea, not much we can do abt that

thestar,

@minnieo @LinkOpensChest_wav @Dreckard @zd
For me the issue is the literal lack of content, even across multiple sites. Coming from Reddit where literally every major subreddit has 25 posts minimum and a whole lot of comments Lemmy seemed empty and I’m still not used to Mastodon’s Twitter like experience.

thestar,

And the official Mastodon iOS app crashes inexplicably on some posts.

OtakuAltair,

I find that a large majority of redditors are still somehow completely clueless about what's happening.

So I made this little summary of events inviting confused redditors to lemmy/kbin if anyone wants to copy/paste; seems to get people to understand.

gk98s,

I had no idea lemmy was a thing until r/piracy. More big subs need to switch

OtakuAltair,

And more people to copy/paste summaries like that! People can't switch if they don't know.

drinkleadsoup,
drinkleadsoup avatar

I made my Lemmy account when Spez killed the Chapo sub. Now I'm glad it has more content.

ILeftReddit,

@OtakuAltair At this point I don't care about redittors or reddit. It can go on to be wildly successful, doesn't matter to me, I've moved on.

AmidFuror,

Username checks out?

drinkleadsoup,
drinkleadsoup avatar

Same. It's like being over an ex. I don't have to care anymore.

OtakuAltair,

Alot of us wouldn't be on here either if it wasn't explained to us; I think the confused people deserve at least an explanation too

Mereo,

Unfortunately, the majority will not care. Reddit's app ranks first in iOS' app store after Twitter. This is what Reddit wants, people to stop using third-party apps so that they can easily target ads to users.

Noxvento,
@Noxvento@lemmy.world avatar

And sell their data.

OtakuAltair,

Even a small portion of users switching to Lemmy/kbin (like us) will mean more competition in the long run.

Specially with great looking ios apps like Artemis in the works that you could easily recommend

victron,
victron avatar

I'm eager to see how reddit becomes a steaming turd after June 30th, that imbecile is gonna end up with nothing of value in his hands. Let's see where that profit comes from then

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

It will be another giant soulless site for the masses to endlessly scroll and see the same tired reposts and memes. They're welcome to it.

SpacePace,

Probably expecting reddit to do the same to other subreddits that try this tactic. It's awful

MelancholikhPatata,
MelancholikhPatata avatar

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    fuser,

    "The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." - Frank Zappa

    JoeKrogan,
    @JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

    That's it. We are not free, just free range.

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