How has ur lemmy experience been so far?

Im joining in on the reddit ditching thing, and was kinda worried at first that i wouldnt be able to like use it the way i did reddit as it feels like a whole new place, but after engaging with posts and people and actually being a part of lemmy rather than being lurk mode all the time i was pleasantly surprised with how easy it is to become a member of the community, theres a reasonable amount of subs (or whatever the other word for em is) that fit my interests, enough linux content and shitposting for my liking, and the overall random posts made by people equally fed up with Leddit. (also i admit i used reddit a little cus there was this post on the fedora sub showing how to fix a sound issue i been having after a recent update)

pushka, (edited )
@pushka@beehaw.org avatar

I like it ~ I joined mastodon but I think it was way too slow to load images - probably joined some dodgy overloaded server (though I like the Reddit format and community better rather than Twitter)

It's giving me Reddit 15 years ago vibes - smaller tech-savvy and agile community - my Reddit use was on and off through the years; but I like the idea that each community in the Extended Lemmiverse can all have their own vibes and cultures and implementations of the platform and we can all chat and follow topics together 🕊️

I've only been here a short while; but maybe one thing I'd love is not to see reposts in the /all section ; I know the communities are small and growing and can cross post for more stuff , but I'm sure there could be a way for the system to know that the title and url are the same - so only show one , or auto-merge the comments and prioritise posting your comment to your local community instance's post Edit - I might try install an instance on my website and try to make a merge function ~

NoTime,
@NoTime@lemmy.one avatar

Regarding your last paragraph, I agree. I'm subscribed to gaming in lemmy.ml and beehaw so see the same content twice regularly. Duplicate communities raise other concerns for me though:

Which one is the defacto community to join? Using the Gaming community as an example, maybe one leans more to images and the other has more meaty discussion threads just by way of who has joined those communities - nothing to do with the rules. But if you subscribe to both, the majority of the content may be duplicate posts instead? It's not clear from the community title alone.

Is the potential squandered as communities are potentially splintered? Maybe people just stick to one community without joining the other. It'll take time for a certain community to establish itself as the main community with the highest quality posts, but due to the volume of users on the main instances maybe there won't be a main community? Or maybe people won't even be aware of multiple communities for the same topic as the names are different, e.g. football Vs soccer.

FuzzyDunlop,

All this fragmentation will reduce the adoption for sure. No one wants to write to a sub filled with 5 people while another is filled with 5k people. We should adopt one new fresh instance and make it our main, and point people coming from reddit to this new instance.

can,

That would defeat the point of decentralization. Nothing is stopping you from going to lemmyverse.net searching for a community you want, and only subscribing to the biggest. In time the choice will be more obvious.

Barbarian,

I might try install an instance on my website and try to make a merge function

Awesome! I'm trying to get my feet wet with contributing as well. I don't know Rust or Psql very well (although I am an experienced MySQL/MariaDB admin) so it's gonna take a while for me to catch up enough to be useful. I'm trying though :P

pushka,
@pushka@beehaw.org avatar

The hardest part is learning /something / and then it's just transferring over right ?

Heheheh - I dunno how crazy it'll be , but no harm in dabbling ~ also it's cool to have a closed community page just for testing , also wanna test maybe only allowing one lemmy domain to post but allow others to comment , etc

bruhsoulz,

yea i think one huge advantage is that theres no specific tos for lemmy as a whole and each instance can just do whatever they want which helps loads when it comes to censorship and moderation, and theres no 1 entity that can just skeet yo off the entire platform if u break some rule (great example is how reddit seems to be silencing ppl promoting lemmy and discussions ab it)

Corndog,

I’m pretty inpressed with how much everything is improving in such a short time frame. Feeling optimistic.

TeaHands,
@TeaHands@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty great tbh. The tricky thing with being an early adopter is you kind of have to be the change you want to see, but I'm old enough to feel no shame about just barging into places and starting new threads as needed.

So far started two accounts on two different instances (I like to keep different subjects somewhat separate) and had really cool interactions on both.

Obviously there are a few UX issues, trying to sub to remote communities is kind of a nightmare, but hopefully I've subbed to enough that other people on my instance will find it a bit easier to find them through search.

solrize,

People and posts here are better. Tech experience is worse. The web interface is worse (too much broken JS and websocket crap), I can't login from a mobile browser, the federation scheme is confusing, the Android app story is not there yet, Jerboa doesn't support older phones that still work perfectly well with RedReader, yada yada. I have somewhat more retro tastes than probably most of the younguns here, so my thoughts are heading towards writing my own desktop front end. But I don't feel like I want to attempt mobile development.

Wilshire,
@Wilshire@beehaw.org avatar

There's A LOT less spam posts and reused joke comments.

Blue,

Like a breath of fresh air. People are just talking now instead of regurgitating the same old tired tropes for maximum upvote points.

DeltaTangoLima, (edited )
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

Quite enjoyable and, since seeing the sub.rehab site someone else posted, even better. I've found quite a few subs that have made their way over to Lemmy.

My only gripe is that quite a few have made their way to lemmy.world, and it's buckling under pressure. I can't sign up on that instance, nor can I remotely sub to communities from my own instance. Once that's resolved, I think I'll definitely be happy to call Lemmy my new home.

Can't go back anyway - deleted my Reddit account.

KiofKi,

Yes, sub.rehab really helped. And the lemmy link extension for chrome.

mattclassic,

I am so happy this exists. I wish it continued growth and success. It feels like the good old early internet and that’s a very good thing.

major_malarkey,

It's a little confusing so far but I haven't spent a ton of time with it yet so I put that on me. Do instances coordinate what communities they start? Let's say I'm looking for a "home assistant" community, will there only be one across all of Lemmy or will I find several?

kherge,
@kherge@beehaw.org avatar

From what I understand, it's like having multiple independent Reddit websites with their own subreddits. You can still access them all from your own site, but they don't seem to appear as one. This is one of several UX problems that need to be addressed by professionals.

majorswitcher,

it definitely needs some UX attention

Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you know typescript, the devs have repeatedly stated that contributions are welcome!

majorswitcher,

I do, and looking forward to contribute. I'm not a UX designer though...

manifex,

Once you subscribe to one, they will flow into your feed. It gets better.

kherge,
@kherge@beehaw.org avatar

Do you know of anything like fedi.tips but for Lemmy?

manifex,

The documentation for the project is good. I started reading through it:

https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/introduction.html

honk,

So if I create the community "beerpong" on my instance feddit.de you can subscribe to it, it will go in to your feed like it was on yours. You can interact with it just as if it was on yours.

But you or someone else could also create the community "beerpong" on your instance lemmy.one. If you view communities on other instances than your own there name will show up differently. Since I'm on feddit.de the community shows up as "asklemmy@lemmy.ml" on my screen to indicate which community exactly it is.

So if you will there could be "duplicate" communities. But imo that's not really an issue. On Reddit you essentially also have duplicate communities. They have slightly different names. There is r/publicfreakout and then there is r/actualpublicfreakout. You might think that two communities could have the same name on lemmy but they actually can't if you understand that the full name of a community is the combination of the community name and the instance it's running on.

So this is NOT asklemmy. It's asklemmy@lemmy.ml

major_malarkey,

I get that there are similar subreddits but not a ton of overlap. Subs will merge or redirect to the one with more traction. Hearing there's possibly a asklemmy on each instance, makes it feel like a bunch of factions instead of a community. When I was adding communities to follow, one instance seemed to focus on entertainment (books, movies, music, etc) and that made sense. I initially thought that each instance had a "theme" and people would be directed to follow the community on that instance.

honk,

Some instances might just focus on a topic. And I agree that makes sense.

On Reddit all the subs are community run too. So if two subs merge or redirect or something that is just because the mods of that one sub decided to do so. It's not like reddit is forcing anyone or making those decision. Nothing stops you from creating r/askreddit2 and decide to not merge it with the "main" askreddit.

The same thing is possible here. And give it some time. At some point I hope that certain communities for a topic will establish themselves with good rules and good moderation over others and then there will a natural flow towards those well established communities and there will be less overlap. It really is exactly the same situation here as it is on reddit.

gaytswiftfan,

do I have to make a new account on each instance to interact? can someone have my username on another instance?

jasory,
  • No, for instance I am interacting with you from a different instance
  • Yes, but it will show what instance they are from. So the identical appearance is only superficial.
Skimmer5728,

great, i've really liked lemmy so far. its really the first alt big tech platform like this that i've gotten into, was never big on mastodon or any of the others out there.

lemmy is honestly a breath of fresh air. really great platform so far, i think it has very strong potential.

i still use reddit for some things, but overall i'm starting to use lemmy a lot more. great work from the devs, can't wait to see the future!

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

It really feels like how Reddit started, before all the rage-bait and eye-catching bullshit. I miss the floofs, the memes, the fun reasons I joined. Now 90% is politics that keep popping up even though I don't subscribe to any political subs and keep blocking

Skimmer5728, (edited )

this 100%. its just really refreshing rn and great to see.

FuzzyDunlop,

Seriously, I'm not from the USA and I'm not supposed to know the names of American senators, MP's, governors or lawyers, or of who shot who, or who had a panic attack in an airplane, or why people are shouting at each others at a mcdonalds drive-in. Does any american ex-redditor know the name of a single european politician besides Merkel?

The news cycle proposed by reddit is filled with american politics ad nauseam and by ragebait. The european subs of reddit are filled with russian shills. When you add up all of this there is no point into opening reddit for the news.

bdonvr,

Does any american ex-redditor know the name of a single european politician besides Merkel?

Well of course I do! Macron, .... uh

CalcProgrammer1,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

Maybe not now, but Brexit stuff was all over Reddit when that was going down.

Fylkir,

I at least know

  1. Macron
  2. Boris
  3. Orban
  4. Jezza
scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Lol way to put it in perspective, I know maybe 2 politicians in all of Europe. Idk when, Reddit used to be global but it's gotten incredibly America-focused, and maybe that's just with the size but holy crap is it annoying now - and I'm American. I get bombarded with politics daily, can't I just have a place that's just memes?

jasory,

It's American politics focused nowadays. Reddit has always been overwhelmingly American, the US is after all the largest Anglophone state. In fact it only got "global" recently with the rise of the French and German subreddits.

GuyDudeman,
@GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml avatar

Mastodon is so much like a Twitter/Facebook replacement that I'm not even interested in it. Reddit/Lemmy's focus is not on broadcasting yourself but rather link aggregating and conversations about those links in the comments. It's always been so much better of a forum type of experience than Twitter/Mastodon/Facebook.

eggnog,

I always tried to get into Twitter whenever I heard people say they love it so much but I could never find the same enjoyment from it. the same is happening with me and Mastodon, but lemmy doesn't really have that issue for me because I loved browsing reddit and they're similar to each other

GuyDudeman,
@GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml avatar

Exactly. I think people who love twitter for conversations have never really been on Reddit before, probably.

lemillionsocks,
@lemillionsocks@beehaw.org avatar

I heard someone else put the issue with mastadon/twitter into words in a way that explained why I never jived with it. With mastadon/twitter you follow people and personalities while reddit and message boards were more about following a subject or interest. The twitter algorithm and sharing I guess spreads a lot of stuff around and it's cool that twitter has so many famous and inside industry people running stuff, but that community based on specific personalities makes it harder to follow.

GuyDudeman,
@GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml avatar

Exactly. The Twitter and Facebook style systems are about broadcasting your personal content. Whereas Reddit and other forums is more about discussion. It's less ego-centric.

L0Wigh,

My biggest issue for now is that it feels kinda empty for now. I hope it will pop just a bit more so that we have good content regularly

nicerdicer,

Today is my 5th day in the fediverse and I like it! In the beginning there were some troubles regarding the registration, but it all worked out (I was not able to create an account with Firefox. After I switched to Opera, it worked). Also there are some issues with the auto-update of the feed. It suddenly starts scrolling and doesn't stop until I hit the refresh button in the browser. As far as I understand, this bug will be fixed soon.

While being here for the last couple of days, I realised, how cluttered Reddit has become. Take r/askreddit for instance: There are so many very similar-to-another questions over there, I now wonder, if they have been created by bots. This applies to other subreddits as well.

Browsing here and interacting with other users feels refreshing! It is like the early Reddit, when it was more community-focused instead of what it has become now, riddled with ads, bots and NFTs. I also like that there is no such thing as karma here.

I certainly will visit reddit in the future, but I'm going stay with the fediverse. There is so much to discover!

Fylkir,

My biggest complaints are all UI based. I wish the UI felt a bit less crowded, and there was a setting that would instead load up pages that don't auto-update.

loug,

I haven't found a simple way to explore and join new communities yet. I'm doing my best not to lurk which is definitely different for me.

jeena,
jeena avatar

Especially the lemmy.ml part was kind of terrible, I got into some weird argument with Tiananmen Square massacre deniers and the mods started deleting my comments, so the whole discussion was meaningless and left me very worried for the future of this corner of the fediverse.

Woodyboye,

Yikes. Are there people like that in lemmy.ml? Ill need to keep an eye out then. Still not completely found my footing in all this yet. Might watch a video or read something to better understand all this soon.

Andreas,
@Andreas@feddit.dk avatar

The history is that Lemmy was originally created as an independent forum for communists. Later, the devs experimented with ActivityPub federation and created the first federated Reddit alternative. The software itself is neutral and can be used by anyone, but the original communist users of Lemmy before federation was implemented are still around. The politics of Lemmy's original community scared off a lot of potential users from exploring federated Reddit, but bringing more users and awareness to Lemmy will also attract politically neutral developers who can maintain a good alternative.

An alternative is not even necessary if the devs are able to leave their ideologies out of the software's design, which I believe they are doing well.

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

And from what I've seen, the core devs have always supported and encouraged more instances to be created so that there's a diversity of communities ... I don't think want everyone to be just on here (lemmy.ml) and I'd guess they especially don't want to conflicts to erupt over communism (where in the past some facist or neo-nazi brigading happened and that's why sign-ups require approval).

The answer is for some people to get to work and put up new instances. That's what happened at mastodon and it's what allowed the platform to absorb the twitter migration. We really shouldn't expect whole new open-source and free platforms to just be waiting for us to get tired of our corporate for-profit big-social-platforms. It takes a little bit of work from us ... either understanding a little bit about how things work, helping others, engaging, and if we're able, putting up instances, starting communities and contributing back to the source code.

5ttrAx,

Well, that's just not the case. Lemmy's devs have always been highly ideological. The case in point here is their handling of the slur filter.

The basic guiding principle of GPL software has always been freedom. Free software has always been explicitly political, but when you put out free code, you have to accept that it might be used by people you don't like. Adding DRM, such as the slur filter, is against the freedom and openness of the free software, even if the DRM is so half-assed as a slur filter that any half-competent dev could easily remove.

Andreas,
@Andreas@feddit.dk avatar

They changed the compulsory filter to be optional and configurable by community admins. They haven't implemented compulsory features after that either, so I see it as a mistake they made when they didn't fully understand the principles of federation and still treated Lemmy as a centralized communist forum. We shouldn't hold those mistakes over them if they learned from it and changed.

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Didn’t know about this.

But, from the cited comment on GitHub:

I want to make it very difficult for racist trolls to use the most updated version of Lemmy.

Fuck yea! This is awesome. Even if not terribly efficacious (I didn’t look into that).

And just to be clear: I talk about principles of platform and instance diversity … and you counter with ”what about racial slurs”?!

GarbageShootAlt2,

I love when anticommunist concern-trolls step on rakes like that.

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Yep. Like there's a good point there from a software standpoint and whether this measure makes sense once the user base and spread of instances and cultures goes past a threshold (especially on the language barrier, but not as persuasively as they think I suspect given the grassroots origin of the software). It's probably at, past or near that threshold now, but similarly with the point at which friendly forks make sense.

But, "lets just resist racism as much as possible even with weird software kludges" being a problematic "ideology" that undercuts any claim to fostering diversity? ... LMFAO!

Maybe put the software freedom and free-speech flags down for a second, look around and touch some grass.

5ttrAx,

Yeah, since the only true diversity is which particular flavour of a tankie you are.

GarbageShootAlt2,

If you've got a problem, you can just say it directly instead of presenting this non-sequitur like it's an own. If anti-racism is "tankie" to you then I'm a T-90.

5ttrAx,

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    GarbageShootAlt2,

    lmao those damned "statists". Did I ever say you advocated for racism? What do slur filters have to do with communism? This is reply seems to be very confused.

    5ttrAx,

    I write about principles of free software, and you interpret that as endorsing racist comments?

    If you actually cared about diversity, you'd know that many English slurs happen to be the same as other non-offensive non-English words; your particular narrow linguistic and cultural viewpoint isn't the only one that's valid.

    CarlMarks,

    A slur filter isn't DRM and free software is in no way some kind of culture that obliges software developers to write code that lets you be more racist/whatever online, lol. The code is generously licensed and you can fork it if you want something else.

    CannotSleep420,

    When doing local development, I noticed there was an option in the admin screen to configure the slur filter. Perhaps the slur filter isn't hardcoded anymore like it was in that old github issue? Could an instance admin confirm/deny this?

    JohannesOliver, (edited )
    JohannesOliver avatar

    It is optional and editable, as mentioned at the bottom of the github issue.

    gorkx,

    @Andreas right. all due to developers: no one fucking cares if your into a dead political system. frankly leave that shit at the door. and no one fucking cares about a fucking treatise about their happy shiny place like beehaw.world. just...be excellent to each other.

    @bruhsoulz @jeena @Woodyboye

    GarbageShootAlt2,

    I think it was on the basis of you being personally insulting to the users. The modlog is pretty usable, so you can check why they were deleted

    LollerCorleone,
    LollerCorleone avatar

    That's the reason why I chose kbin over lemmy. However, beehaw also looks like a pleasant place though.

    orbit,

    While I'm subbed to a few lemmy.ml communities I didn't wanna make an account over there for the same reasons. The general inclination is a bit out of my sphere.

    pitninja,
    @pitninja@lemmy.ml avatar

    There aren't really as many leftist posts on lemmy.ml from what I can see, but it's federated with lemmygrad.ml, so if your account is on lemmy.ml you see all the posts from there as well. And because they're federated, lemmygrad users can comment on anything on lemmy.ml, so that's where you will see viewpoints come in that you may not agree with in news/politics/economics related threads. I don't know if kbin.social has its instances whitelist & blacklist published anywhere, but there's a pretty good chance you'd know by now if it federated with lemmygrad. You're likely still browsing posts and comment threads on lemmy.ml but aren't seeing comments from the lemmygrad users in those threads.

    jeena,
    jeena avatar

    As far as I understood, those were people who had accounts on lemmy.ml, not lemmygrad.ml

    FuzzyDunlop,

    And because they’re federated, lemmygrad users can comment on anything on lemmy.ml, so that’s where you will see viewpoints come in that you may not agree with in news/politics/economics related threads.

    Oh boy, I didn't think about that. I never thought that lemmy.ml would federate with a cesspool like grad. So yeah, this explains that. That's why I'm seeing so many shills.

    We have enough numbers to build a "de facto" second main instance which would be completely split from grad, should we focus on one instance? What if we tried to start an instance from scratch?

    pitninja,
    @pitninja@lemmy.ml avatar

    You're certainly welcome to build your own instance and choose who and who not to federate with, but if lemmygrad folks specifically are who you're trying to avoid, beehaw might be a good spot for you.

    jeena,
    jeena avatar

    Oh, and even if they're annoying, I understand how federation works and that users from lemmygrad could comment there etc. and I can handle the shills, what I was surprised about were the mods on lemmy.ml which started deleting my comments. Doing this, they make it impossible for me to even try to engage in a discussion and show a different point of view to the tankies.

    5ttrAx,

    Yeah, lemmy part of fediverse is full of tankies. There is even a pretty active tankie instance over lemmygrad.ml.

    Rick,

    Lemmy.World has been pretty good so far and the people over there seem to be against that kind of shit. We will see as time goes on though!

    Briskfall,
    Briskfall avatar

    Unfortunately, I've been getting some 404 not found of some communities/magazines of some instances that are not from the instance I'm using, e.g. I'm using kbin.social at the current posting account, but let's say that I tried to access something like https://sh.itjust.works/c/skincareaddiction there's no issues whatsoever (since it's the main instance where that community spawned off) but if I tried https://kbin.social/m/skincareaddiction@sh.itjust.works then I would get the aforementioned error code. I find it pretty inconvenient that caching/indexing of certain less popular (which I assume is what is happening) community working clunkily, it feels not as reliable than using a centralized service, but I guess that this is the price to pay for a decentralized system.

    Poiar, (edited )

    If kbin is like lemmy, then to add new communities, you have to do the following:

    Go to your instance in the browser. I.e., do not use apps like Jerboa.

    Go to your communities tab (magazines?) and set it to "all"

    Search for !skincareaddiction from your kbin instance. It will not return any results, but it will do the trick.

    Now the 404 will have disappeared for you and all other people in your instance.

    Instead of typing the url, search for only skincareaddiction without "!" and "@sh.itjust.works" and it should be there.

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