Please, help us to better understand how we can effectively funnel reddit users into Lemmy across all demographics, leveraging the average Lemmings advantages like expertise in automation, ai and bots?
What tactics/strategies do you propose? Can we automate the process? Can we somehow add ai to make it more fashionable?
I see some people here saying they don’t want Lemmy to grow. They’re right as far as growth for the sake of growth. That said, there’s value in a bigger user base because it allows for niche communities that otherwise wouldn’t have enough activity to be worthwhile.
So in that spirit, I think actively posting and commenting about the subjects you’re interested in is the best way to help develop active communities. If in conversation IRL we find ourselves saying, “I heard about X on lemmy” or “This tutorial on lemmy helped me figure out an issue with Y” then that’s the best advertisement for new users.
Likewise I think reddit posts are favored when people do web searches because it’s humans having a real discussion, not seo trying to sell something. As there’s more content on lemmy I’d hope web searches will start bringing people here. (And as platforms like reddit make their product worse to make more profit fewer people will go there)
In general, as somebody who migrated from Reddit in June, I’d say that the best of us are already here. I’ve only run into a handful of shitty trolls here these past 4 months. The smaller userbase also results in fewer posts and comments, so I spend less time scrolling through endless content. Both of these aspects have led to me feeling significantly happier and present. You’re right about niche communities being too small here, but I would rather have it this way than deal with proudly ignorant, stupid, hateful dipshits relishing in being loud assholes in a thread with thousands of users learning to be loud assholes like them.
In my opinion, if people want Reddit, they should go to Reddit. The fediverse is the way that it is, and of course I’m open to improvements, but fundamental alterations to the entire identity is not something I would like to see. I’m happy to engage in discourse and disagree productively, which is much more possible here than it ever was on Reddit.
Chill the fuck out with the bans, for starters. A lot of people come to these sites to discuss news, and then leave for good when they catch bans for stupid shit like saying “US revolutionaries probably didn’t go around murdering entire families.” Meanwhile, hexbears are posting pics of pig shit, which is apparently fine.
I mean, I definitely won’t suggest this place to anyone at this point because of how toxic .ml has become in particular.
Sorry, I was one of the major “funnelers” of redditors over to Lemmy, being very careful, and still ended up sort of helping create a monster like Lemmy.world, that openly bans any Palestine supporters.
I do not want too many of those toxic genocide loving NATO predditors over here at Lemmy. I used to say “mass adoption is a poison pill”, and I will abide by it even more now. Reddit is full on mask off nazi at worldnews and most other subs, openly thirsting and drooling for Israel to complete full colonisation of Palestine.
I don't really understand why you would want to. In order for the fediverse to be strong it has to grow organically and scale up, not face an eternal september of clueless people who aren't particularly interested in it.
The corporate/political shills, scammers, sealions and such are attracted to reddit by its size. Not having all that crap here is a good thing. Let's enjoy it while it lasts.
If you just funnel reddit users onto Lemmy, you’re just going to get a shittier version of Reddit. You’ll be selecting for people who are tired of, can’t use, or rejected from reddit, but didn’t make the move on their own. That will result in growth, but at the cost of quality. Specifically reaching out to reddit users sends the message that you just want to be reddit for people who can’t or won’t use reddit anymore.
Expansion should come naturally. As Lemmy grows and improves, new users will naturally gravitate over, but because it wasn’t some sudden influx of reddit users they’ll be less inclined to just bring Reddit’s culture with them.
The difference lies in how we got here. One means finding a new community, assessing it, and integrating into it. It means seeing the new community as distinctly not Reddit. The other is effectively a “Come as you are” invitation that will just directly import reddit’s culture, after which it will be effectively too late to trim less desirable behaviors.
Then we could still funnel new users from other sources that are more like-minded. Say FOSS community and hackers for example (incidentally those are proabably a large chunk of Lemmy users)
No, why would we force them to join. Funneling makes it somewhat sound like forcing our tricking people to go and join lemmy. I would rather that people do it on their own. That way we get genuine lemmings not transplanted reddit trash.
That simply isn’t true. Reddit is much larger and more diverse than Usenet. I’m willing to bet the vast majority had never heard of Usenet when they started using Reddit, though they probably heard about it along with hundreds of other new and old ideas after joining. If you think everyone you want to talk to is already here, I’m happy for you, but I think it’s a limited philosophy.
Got to say, the comment quality may be slightly better than Reddit, but I don’t see a fundamental difference in users. Thinking in terms of people commenting without reading the main post, people misunderstanding each other, things like that. Sure, the demographics may skew a little different, but people are people and at sufficient numbers we make similar mistakes.
I find theres enough content here to satisfy my needs without it becoming an unhealthy addiction. Also it feels like my comment is actually noticed and sometimes replied to by a real person like me. Reddit relt unhealthy in those ways.
I would heartily endorse quality over quantity on this front. I’ve had to block a few communities and users. And there is at least one Instance I have and will continue to block every community on, Yiff.
NSFW thots that post in multiple communities is actually worse on lemmy. Maybe because it’s a smaller audience and there are less communities or less posters.
I’ve blocked several users because I just kept getting the same posts. It doesn’t seem to be helping.
I think the only thing reddit has over Lemmy is the number of active communities, and not how big these communities are. If there’s 10k people in a community, it’s fine. It doesn’t help if there’s 100k.
But I need the diversity. I need r/soccer and r/chatgpt that are way more active.
That will happen with a critical mass of users. Maybe it is possible to correlate the foundation/success or just number of subredits with number of active redit users, then we might be able to conclude what number of critical users is necessary for that to happen.
If it’s ONLY for the goals and highlights, I would say to scrape “New” on soccer for video posts that’s been up for 10 minutes. The mods over there mostly take down dublicates and spam pretty fast.
The only problem is the mirrors in the comments that needs to come over with it. This one is tricky as they are not necessarily uploaded within 30 minutes.
I know there’s also a bot on reddit taking all these videos and uploading them in the comments on another video source not taking goals down. So a mix of these two approaches would do it.
Wow, do so many people believe Lemmy user are that much different than Reddit user? I mean I can totally forego all the bots, incels and astroturfing, but I do believe they migrate automatically once a platform got big enough. I don’t think there’s any way to stop that unless you want to keep Lemmy small forever.
Lemmy needs to grow because Reddit needs to go. Reddit has become too powerful for a greedy company like that.
I would be very interested to see the percentage of lemmy users that were reddit users right up until the point they switched primary platforms. I have to imagine that number is near 99%.
I’d like to echo this point. As soon as you set your objective to pull in Reddit users, you’ve set yourself up as the “Reddit alternative”, you’ll be chasing Reddit features and attempting to please the Reddit users. To succeed at this game is to essentially end up creating Reddit, but never surpassing.
In my opinion, Lemmy needs to have a clear mindset on what Lemmy is and what it isn’t, then stick to that.
It would be a real luxury to have that clear mindset, but I don’t think that’s possible.
Lemmy is something like a teenager. It needs time for its own identity and culture to coalesce. For now I think the best we can do is to avoid the notion that we’re alt-reddit.
Wow, do so many people believe Lemmy user are that much different than Reddit user?
Some are, but some are even worse than reddit, for example the cursed reddit custom of profile downvote… actually never happened to me on reddit but here it’s constant.
Reddit made it so you can’t downvote from a profile page, it simply wouldn’t count. You had to open every comment individually and vote on them. Sorry that it is happening to you. Maybe make a new account, karma isn’t that important, yet we all feel more welcome if there’s positive votes.
Nah i don’t give a shit about karma i’m just genuinly depressed people are this angry and petty. But then again it’s not really surprising since it’s mostly coming from the US bootlickers.
It also skews the point of downvotes even as disagree button.
Reddit made it so you can’t downvote from a profile page, it simply wouldn’t count.
I didn’t know that lol, support my theory of some places (.world for example) being really worse than reddit.
I see marketing via AI tools and bots unethical. Many things can be done via conventional marketing.
Contact content creators (especially oriented towards Linux and Free software, like TheLinuxExperiment or DistroTube, or some gaming channels, as well) to create communities of their channels on Lemmy.
Somehow reduce content about world news and politics. Many people go to the Internet to step aside from the real world events.
Also, majority of Reddit users are teenagers. The older generation of Reddit has fled away. We must think twice what target audience we want to bring in. I don’t want Lemmy to become a place where alt-wing anti-establishment political leaders bait naïve teenagers and take them into the rabbit hole (aka scenario described in The Social Dilemma).
Maybe we should establish marketing funds that people can donate to. Then use those funds to run ad campaings to promote Lemmy and get people to join. We could even decide where to advertise like only on hackathons or IT conferences or other select avenues.
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