How do you not drip back onto it? Do you use paper too? How is it okay for me to use the same one right after Typhoid Larry? Doesn’t poo go everywhere?
Most of the ones I’ve seen are attachments on toilets. So you do drip, but it’s into the toilet. I haven’t had any issues with stray poo even with no pre wiping. It all drops into the toilet also. It’s a jet of water from far away, so you’re not really in contact with it to infect it.
Wipe first, rinse with the bidet, then wipe again so your ass isn’t soaking wet. It’s really not that complex. I have no idea how it would get infected with anything, it squirts water at a distance from your…stuff.
If someone was preparing food for you, would you be satisfied if you saw them go to the toilet and then just wipe their hands with a piece of paper instead of washing their hands?
This is where some cultures got their thing about not using the left hand to shake or eat food with. The assumption is everyone cleans their butt with the left hand. Little do they know I’m a righty.
I’m going to explain how an Italian bidet works, I don’t know if you’re referring to some other kind of bidet (e.g. the pressure washers).
You do your thing, then you lightly clean yourself with paper. Don’t waste too much paper, just one pass or two will suffice.
Then you get up from the toilet bowl and go on the bidet. In Italy, it’s always next to the toilet bowl so you don’t have to walk around like a maniac. The best way to sit on the toilet is to “ride it” as if it was a horse (so you face the water).
You open the water, maybe you wait for it to become warm (it depends on the kind of heating system you have in your home, sometimes it takes longer to come out warm). Then you get some soap (we use a specific kind of delicate liquid soap that we call “intimate soap” in Italian). You apply the soap to your private parts and you rinse using the water.
After you’ve finished cleaning, you dry youself using a personal towel. This is important: you don’t share your bidet towel with anybody. We usually use a smaller kind of towel.
No of course only in your home. If you’re visiting someone else for some days they’ll give you a bidet towel. If you’re just outside well… you’ll just use your toilet paper. Some people will use the bidet anyway and dry with toilet paper, but that’s a bit annoying.
How dare you go against bidets! As an internet person that has never used one but yearns for the technological bliss of Japan I’m offended and you shall be downvoted by all other bidet-less but opinionated internet people!
I don’t need to defend power washing my butt to you. You need to defend mashing shit around your buttskin through microscopically thin and flimsy sheets of paper to me.
noone was talking about defending stuff, rather explaining.
tbh, it’s kinda unclear to me as well how do you use a bidet properly, I mean you walk around with shitty hole in your bathroom, when do you flush or clean up the toilet if neccessary…?
or if it’s built into the toilet, you stand up still drippy hole? do you use soap? when and how? you dry your butt still sitting on top of your poo?
see? lots of unclarity here.
I’m thinking about upgrading my porcelain throne anyway…
The days are either part of the toilet, or attached to the toilet using the screws in the back that hold your toilet lid down. You don’t waddle around at all. It’s the same toilet you do your business squirt your butt and if you stay there for a few minutes to drop dry, you don’t have to use any paper products whatsoever
I have had the opposite experience. I’ve spent a lot of time in Europe and without fail the bidets I find myself using have a very weak stream, and they just look like a sink, and require extra cleanup to get all of the…particulate…down the drain.
On the 30 dollar unit I attached to my toilet, I get an extremely strong and focused stream, it is self-cleaning, and everything is handled by the same flush.
This is literally like the flying cars of cleaning your butt, and it’s not even new technology. There is literally zero downside.
My experience with stand alone units is in South America, and lets just say, if you turn the tap too far, you will find yourself getting a good “internal cleanse”. There are places of course with low pressure, but any of them that I’ve used on the regular have been almost too strong. Slouching on one, half asleep at 3am and getting a shot directly to the clit is not as fun as it sounds…
The stand alone ones I’ve tried though have all lacked pressure. They have had lights, heaters, UV, self cleaning and all sorts of fancy things, but the feel like getting sprayed by a water bottle you’d use to keep a cat off the counter
If it’s that weird for you, you can also just try stepping into the shower to rinse and wash your bum; only downside is that you’d need to towel dry your legs as well.
Very simple, it works just like a sink, only you can sit on it. Some have a hose to make washing easier. Older models shoot water straight upwards like a fountain, but they all have a drain like a sink.
And you wipe first, so whatever falls into the bowl is small enough to be dissolved and passes through the drain.
It’s ok to use after Typhoid Larry the same it is ok to use the sink after him. It’s not a pressure washer so shouldn’t be making a huge mess unless you are particularly clumsy. And btw, they’re usually in private bathrooms so unless Larry is your housemate then it’s likely just you using it.
You have basically two choices for the nice, high end ones that install on toilets. Biobidet and Toto. I went with the former, but either one makes excellent models.
Note that to use it properly, it’s best to get an outlet under your toilet tank. They do have to plug in.
I don’t care about the seat, that’s just a quick second. I want the water heated. Cold toilet tank water may be clean, but I moved to the most southern part of California for a reason. I super babby hate the cold.
The actual sprayer nozzle sits towards the back of the bowl and sprays up at an angle so any dripping is going straight down into the bowl not landing on the sprayer nozzle.
It’s getting fresh water, not recycling bowl water, I suppose there could be some small risk if Larry has explosive diarrhea all over the nozzle, but its probably no worse than if you have any splashback after using a regular toilet after him. Most of the models I have used also have a self-cleaning feature that will have the nozzle rinse itself (they still do need to be actually cleaned periodically of course)
There is a little bit of splashing, unless you’re abnormally small and skinny though most of it is probably just going to get your butt and staying in the toilet, once in a while I’ll get a couple drops on the front of the toilet seat and I’m pretty sure that’s just over-spray shooting directly between my legs, not poop water splashing off of my ass
many (probs most new ones) have a uv light that’s inside the retracted nosel casing which sterilises it between uses, so even typhoid Larry would not be an issue.
There’s a lot of options out there, I’ve seen some really fancy ones with a lot of bells and whistles, but my personal experience is that most of the ones I see people buying and installing are pretty basic mechanical devices hooked up to a water line with no electrical components. Just pieces of plastic and/or metal being acted upon by other pieces of plastic/metal and water pressure.
Most people are retrofitting them into existing bathrooms, often they don’t have convenient electrical lines/outlets close enough to their toilet for a clean-looking install and don’t care enough to run them, and needing to recharge or replace batteries in their toilet isn’t something they’re particularly interested in doing (I fall into this category myself)
Personally I have 3 toilets with 3 bidets, all basic cold water models with no other features. None of them have convenient power, I’d have to run a cord to the outlet by the sink, or run a new outlet for them. It’s certainly doable in all 3 cases, but more work than I care to put into it, and I’m too stubborn and cheap of a DIY homeowner to hire an electrician for something I could do myself. One of them is close enough to the sink that I could run a hot water line to it without too much bother, but that bathroom is pending a renovation so I’m waiting to see how things look when I get into that before I do it (that bathroom is also furthest from the water heater, so you usually have to run the water for a while before it starts coming out hot from the tap, so kind of less than ideal and maybe not worth it)
On that note, cold water bidets are a little unpleasant at first, but you get used to it really quickly, and if you’re kind of a fat sweaty guy like me they’re actually pretty refreshing once you’re used to them.
yeah we have two toilets, both with bidets, one is a cold water blast retro fit and the other is a fancy Japanese one with power that does everything except buy you dinner afterwards.
I really don’t understand the western reluctance for them and their penchant for poo smeared butt holes. one you go bidet it seems primitive to do anything else.
I think this is the best response. So many people are answering a seemingly angry way to a question that seems sincere. It’s clear OP didn’t get how it worked and just wanted some information and wasn’t saying it was a terrible idea.
Most of the models I have used also have a self-cleaning feature that will have the nozzle rinse itself (they still do need to be actually cleaned periodically of course)
this. the geberit toilet that I have will automatically clean the nozzle before and after use.
Most people do, but a couple squares to pat dry is probably less than you’d use otherwise. Some fancier models have blow dryers. Personally, I won’t lie, I’m probably going to sit on the toilet for a few minutes scrolling through Lemmy on my phone after I’ve done my business so I tend to just air/drip dry.
I have some pretty basic models, and they do a pretty good job getting everything clean, they have a pretty powerful jet. Definitely a lot better than I’ve ever been able to do with TP.
Except you don’t, I’m now using damn close to 0 TP since, like I said, I mostly tend to drip dry.
I suppose YMMV depending on the kind of shits you take, and maybe the geometry of your ass or the water pressure of your bidet, maybe your butt is shaped in such a way that stuff is splattering all over, but that certainly has not been my experience.
It depends on your bowel movements and how much fiber you eat. I still have to wipe a little after the water, but far less than without. Others, drying is enough.
After using one for a while now, it seems so uncivilized not using one now.
On mine there’s a little guard around the sprayer and it peeks down under it when in use. There’s also a cleaning mode.
I do use a some toilet paper to dry. Less than I would if I wiped. One day I’ll upgrade to one of the fancy units with a dryer.
I don’t know about other people but I move around a bit to make sure that the spray gets everything, including “in there a bit”. If you dab to dry and your tp has anything other than water on it you didn’t do a good enough job spraying.
Okay but are you just using toilet paper to dry afterwards?
Some have built in dyers. Even with it, sometimes it feels a small dab helps some more, but it’s not really necessary. Also, that water should be clean at that point… Do you perfectly dry your ass with a towel after showering? Etc
And does just water actually get it all?
Usually. You can also run them more than once. Some have “pressure” settings. Some move back and forth. And you can always check with paper, and see if you need to change something or run another cycle.
You’ve still got to get in there a bit right?
I’ve never had to. Occasionally run a second cycle, but no.
As a lady - it shoots water forward from the back to the front? That seems like a prescription for BV and bladder infections. We had one but it was a handheld sprayer, that was good except in the winter.
Also a lot of typhoid and stomach flu type pathogens don’t spread butthole to butthole, they spread via the “fecal-oral” route so… that happens in situations like someone took too small a slice and touches your food (or receipt that you ate to prove they liked your gift) without washing their hands properly.
My dude, your ball hair lives inches away from your butthole, maybe not even that far depending on how saggy your balls are, how long your hairs are, and how supportive your underwear is. I promise you that nothing that’s splashing onto your balls is any worse than what’s already there.
It’s not that powerful of a jet of water. I mean, I’m sure there is some, but if you’re doing it right, only the parts you want to get wet are getting wet. Besides, the alternative is like using a paper towel to clean peanut butter from a shag carpet.
There’s one thing I haven’t read yet in the previous answers: after you s**t you still wipe your ass with toilet paper before using the bidet, and you do it pretty well too.
When you get to use the bidet, your butt is already pretty clean, but washing it with a bidet makes it entirely clean and feels really nice.
You use a towel right after using a bidet, which is why you see one hanging right by a bidet in most (if not all) bathrooms with a bidet. This prevents spraying water everywhere after you’re clean.
Also, when you use it once, you learn how strong you want your water stream to be, not to wet the whole bathroom. You do the same the first time you wash your dishes (if your faucet shoots water too strongly, you wet the kitchen beyond the sink)
Also: those who use bidet go through a rigorous training to master its practice and transmit it’s secrets orally to the next generation.
Can't say I've gone around asking people, but from what i gather people don't usually wipe before hand because you (usually) don't need to. Just spray and dry
I use washcloth to dry off afterwards. I bought a cheap pack of like 50 on Amazon and keep them in a basket and wash them after each use, they definitely last the week or so between laundry loads. It may not be necessary since I think some people use the same towel several times but it’s not a big deal for me.
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