skogens_ro,

/s is like explaining a joke you just made right away.

LostCause, (edited )

I think a better way to convey the intended sarcasm is to make it hyperbole or exaggerated. I saw your comment and one would have to be pretty dense to not see the sarcasm, so you did that well.

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

this works until you come across people that actually think that hyperbole is normal. Every time you think "oh, they can't be that idiotic...." that's when the knuckledraggers take as a challenge.

LostCause, (edited )

Yeah fair point, I‘m actually writing comments like that sometimes which I feel like don‘t get my sarcasm across enough. I‘ve also misread sarcastic comments before myself.

I still don‘t like the /s, but it‘s up to the writers preference how important avoiding this is to them.

Ignacio,
Ignacio avatar

In my opinion it's wiser to use it because you can't hear what the others are saying, you just read their comments without any other input.

But because karma is a valuable asset and this place sucks, then I don't and I won't. /s

finthechat,
finthechat avatar

Hell no, let's please leave that shit on Reddit.

DJDarren,

Nope. Everything I say is sarcastic, so it would be redundant.

DJDarren,

That, however, was sincere.

Pons_Aelius,

Nah, I think that was sarcastic as well.

Saigonauticon,

I have the opposite problem where people think I'm being sarcastic, but I'm not. Is there a tag for that?

Pons_Aelius,

/RFSH (really fuckin serious here)

harmonea,
harmonea avatar

/s has been around forever, but zoomer/tumblr types have taken it and built an entire tone indicator system around it. So yes, it exists; the tag you'd want is /gen.

But... tone indicators are not well known or commonly used outside that demographic, so using them will make people assume you're a certain age or type of person, and you may not be comfortable with that.

artillect,
artillect avatar

Here's a jan Misali video that's somewhat relevant to your second paragraph

harmonea,
harmonea avatar

Mmm could you say a bit more? I'm too exhausted tonight to commit to an 18-minute watch based only on "somewhat relevant."

From my POV, as a person coming up on 40, I just don't want to make myself seem younger than I am to such a degree that teens and tweens might feel more comfortable approaching me as a casual friend.

artillect,
artillect avatar

Totally, fair enough. It's specifically about the /hj tone indicator, how it is mostly useless because of its ambiguity and it not being known by people in general, and how that extends to most tone indicators. It's basically what you said but goes way more in depth (almost crazily so but that's sorta their thing)

Personally, I don't use tone indicators for pretty much the same reasons as what you said above. I also think that anything that could be conveyed using them is probably just better off being spelled out

harmonea,
harmonea avatar

Appreciate the explanation! I'll put on the watch list for another time.

PotjiePig,

I saw your comment in the wild, and it seemed pretty obvious considering the context and the references to North Korea, so I don't think it was necessary.

Having said that, the tag helps when tone of voice is missing in text, and for people with autism who may struggle to pick up on the clues, so it is a useful tag to avoid confusion. Use if you feel it's necessary. Edits work in other instances when needed.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

No, absolutely never. /s

Dirk,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

Came here to say this.

nottheengineer,

That comment was some very obvious sarcasm. There will always be a few idiots, don't worry about those.

But I do think /s has its place around autism communities because many of those people really can't tell.

kamiheku,

Absolutely not. 100% ruins the joke, in my opinion.

Lemvi,

On here, for pretty much every opinion you can find someone who supports it. Sarcasm can really only be understood by people who know you, as they can compare it against what you usually say and do. The pure text form makes it even harder to understand sarcasm, as it removes any cues in your voice or facial expression.

It might somewhat ruin the joke, but in an environment like this, you have to be blunt if you want people to understamd you're being sarcastic, for example by adding a tag like "/s".

jadedctrl,

That’s completely it, yea; sarcasm’s contextual. Unless the joke’s about some opinion directly contradicting the community you’re posting in, it’s not safe to leave /s-less.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

I do. Simply to avoid the annoyance of someone missing obvious clues that scream “this is sarcastic and ironic, should not be taken literally!” and creating drama out of nowhere.

bilb,
@bilb@lem.monster avatar

Never, it's for cowards.

danohibernian,

@IsThisLemmyOpen
Sure. Every single time.

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I don't, but I know that I'm rolling the dice when I do it that way, and I'm willing to live with the consequences.

And I say this as someone who regularly misses sarcasm when it's delivered to me in person :)

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