Lazylazycat, Can someone tell me what Mastodon is like please, I have social network fatigue and can’t be bothered to try another one? 😅
Scanzy, Mastodon is hard to get into because at first you only really see what is coming from your own instance. You have to really look around and find the people and topics you want to see in your feed. It’s a much more carefully curated set of content than you get from Twitter, which just bombards you with hot takes and garbage all the time.
flipthetube, It’s like twitter but without the bullshit. I’ve never used twitter so not interested in Mastodon, but I’m glad it’s out there.
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Lazylazycat, Thanks mate.
Nuuskis9, I think the most enjoyable feature is that there is no algorithm in Fediverse. And decentralization means that if you host your own server for Pixelfed (instagram equivalent) for example, your data will go offline at the moment you disconnect your server from the internet.
Lemmy is great alternative for Reddit especially if you’re into tech.
Lazylazycat, What do you mean by “no algorithm”? There must be something controlling the order of “hot” vs “new”? Or do you mean the kind of algorithm that shows you suggested communities?
Caoldence222, Yeah, there’s an “algorithm” here but rather than a black box of trade secrets and manipulation it’s entirely open source, and mathematically simple.
mastodon idk, it probably has a similar algo for its Explore page but I think the user feed is just made up of posts from people you follow in chrono order.
miked, the user feed is just made up of posts from people you follow in chrono order.
You can also follow hashtags, block hashtags, and block words/phrases.
The Local Timeline shows posts from everyone on your instance. The Federated Timeline is a fire hose. It shows all posts in chronological order (as received by your instance).
Sheltac, mathematically simple
And, as far as I can see, neutral. Doesn’t put you in a bubble like other social networks do, because it’s not trying to milk you for engagement.
tcj, I think there’s a lot of value to the algorithm, but it needs to be based on real engagement rather than arbitrary bullshit that a soulless corporation wants to promote.
I subscribe to a lot of people, but not all of their content is worth seeing. Having it curated down to just the stuff that’s actually popular can be nice. It’s definitely tricky to make that work in a fair and useful way though.
biddy, The nice thing is, if an instance wanted to put in the effort they could totally make an algorithm. We will have to grow a lot before it’s worth the bother to make a good one, but it’s totally possible.
koze, Some people are building systems on top of Mastodon, for example fedistats.cc/trendsIn the end something like “plug in your own algorithm” would be great.
Vittelius, And thanks to activityPub there is interoperability between services. I only have a Mastodon account, but I can follow people on pixelfed without problem. It moves the focus back onto communicating rather than being on the platform
voodooattack, Also you don’t need a blue check mark to post relatively longer paragraphs.
pizzahoe, It’s really interesting… i gave it a shot a few days back. You’ve to follow stuff or hashtags you’re interested in for things to show up… after that take it slow and follow more things… I’ve found some really good music playlists, art, programming discussions on there. There’s also an explore section which shows trending topics and posts. I can recommend it as the users are mature and in my experience not toxic.
MaxVoltage, It’s not like here at all. No shitposts. Only people who use their real name and work for some non profit sharing their highly intelligent news bulletins. I haven’t found any memes
LostCause, (edited ) It‘s like Twitter basically, but since it‘s also in the fediverse there is a bit of overlap where Mastodon people can comment on Lemmy/kbin stuff too anyway. Usually they have something like @LostCause and hashtags like #mastodon and so on in their comments, that‘s how I typically spot them.
So their growth is relevant for us, but you don‘t need to make an account there.
Lazylazycat, Thank you, this makes sense. Can I view Mastodon posts from lemmy.world? I can’t recall seeing any but maybe it’s not obvious.
julianh, If a mastodon user mentions (@) a community, they’ll post there. They can also reply to comments on Lemmy and you’ll see it. Unfortunately I don’t think Lemmy has a way to see regular mastodon accounts/comments right now other than that.
Lazylazycat, Got it, thank you :)
GreenZero, @Lazylazycat as an example, hello! i'm replying from Mastodon on https://mastodon.social.
for some reason i can't see your profile pictures (on lemmy accounts, kbin are fine apparently)
Lazylazycat, Oh hi! See on my Lemmy app you just look like any other user, that’s cool. I don’t have a profile pic but maybe you wouldn’t see it if I did?
GreenZero, @Lazylazycat i presume i would then if you did...
Lazylazycat, How about now? :D
GreenZero, @Lazylazycat sadly, no.
Seems like a Mastodon-Lemmy issue. :sadness:
Lazylazycat, Ahh well, the exciting thing is how quickly things are being built and changed so maybe our instances will become more connected eventually.
GreenZero, @Lazylazycat at least we can chat :)
Kodemystic, Can we post on their instances too? How?
Lazylazycat, Yes I want to know this too, ty.
GlowingLantern, I don’t think you can from Lemmy, but /kbin has a microblogging feature where it’s fully integrated.
Kodemystic, Test @kodemystic
Kodemystic, Testing @tangocharlie x’D
Eisenhowever, Just like twitter except what you see on your feed is reliant on what #’s or people you follow. So you essentially have more control over what you see and you wont get any posts from some rando like twitter does
BitingChaos, how did you make it to Fediverse-B without knowing about Fediverse-A?
Lazylazycat, (edited ) I know of Mastodon but haven’t browsed it. I came to Lemmy first from Reddit.
phillycodehound, And that’s ACTIVE USERS
chk232, Joined yesterday, Elon boi going down a right wing rabbithole and the zucc-verse is not very appetizing.
Lord_Logjam, Great news. I really wish I could get on with it.
Casmael, Yay! I still don’t know how to use anything that looks like twitter tho
communistcapy, I would humbly submit calkey as an alternative. It’s the best interface I’ve seen out of anything on the fediverse.
Sailor_jets, I spun up a Calckey instance a week or so ago. It’s leaps and bounds better than Mastodon.
dudebro, cool.
MumboAttribute7322, A great win for decentralization and censorship resistant networks!
profdc9, Highly irrelevant song to celebrate Mastodon’s milestone!
Quills, Just saw that on fedidb, Hooray! Hehe
Reddit_refuge, First time I hear about this but I can see already milions of rulles to accept before creating account so I’ll pass.
Quills, It depends a lot on the instance you’re trying to register on, they usually have a good dose of rules but it’s not all of them
RocksForBrains, So here’s my question: what content are you looking for that is forbidden in most circles?
Furthermore, the state of bad actors on Reddit speaks to the failure of loose enforcement and a lack of cohesive rule base across the entire website.
So what rules are impeding you to access what you want?
Reddit_refuge, No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, casteism, harassment, dogpiling, doxxing, no false or misleading information
So anything can fall under those terms theese days. Sorry dude, this is not free speech. This is another facebook, twitter or instagram.
PreciousPig, Is it recommended to create an account specifically for Mastodon or just use your Lemmy-account? Will it fuck up my feeds/subs in some way if I only use one account for both? (I’m new to the whole fediverse thing)
glacier, I think you would need a separate account for Mastodon since you need to login through a server
sv1sjp, Not really, but a new Mastodon account will help you have a better experience. I am following some mastodon accounts from my Lemmy
phillycodehound, I’d have a separate Maston and Lemmy. Because they present differently. And are different systems for the most part.
Sl00k, This is great! But generally can’t see Mastadon overtaking any other major social platforms until it introduces an equivalent of For you feed from Twitter. The days of following specific people and hashtags is over, it’s tedious and I don’t give a shit about 3/4s of the feed.
2017-2020 Twitter was absolutely peak Twitter algorithm wise and thousands of users want that exact experience back, yet nobody will provide it.
YoBuckStopsHere, Mastodon adding their version of Tweekdeck was what set me to completely abandon Twitter.
noodlejetski, luckily it doesn’t need to overtake anyone, it’s doing its own thing and it works just fine.
NekoKamiGuru, Stay away from advertising money , if you need money to keep a server up then start a gofundme or a patreon or something … make it community based so that your instance stays community based .
redballooon, And I still don’t know how to use it, as in getting an interesting feed.
Myrbolg, Ha, yeah. That’s what’s holding me back the most. Somehow it worked with Twitter.
Vipsu, Thats likely due to lack of algorithms with goal to keep you browsing forever. Twitter likely harvests all the data it can get from you when you browse twitter. They can also track your browsing habits using your IP (among many other things) and sites that have embed twitter content like share button or embed tweets.
redballooon, I also didn’t understand how to do this in Twitter. Tried twice, didn’t succeed. At least, now I don’t miss it.
MyFairJulia, Just look for the things that you are interested in. That’s how i accumulated many of my followed accounts over time as well as subscribed subreddits over time.
You can also look for users under the same name on Mastodon and (hopefully) find them.
Please note that if you find an account you also followed on twitter and it ends with @bird.makeup, it’s a bot mirroring tweets on Mastodon without mirroring your answers on Mastodon back to Twitter.
dominiquec, Hashtags are your friend. It also helps if you have some active posters for the tag. I get good content from following #sciencefiction #coffee and #python.
redballooon, Ok. What’s next? There’s a tweet, there’s an icon that it has 16 comments, but I can’t read those. When I click on that icon I have the ui to write a comment.
noodlejetski, click on the post itself, not the icon. it’ll load the entire thread that way.
Vipsu, Finding people to follow in Mastodon mostly happens by:
- Search topics using hashtags
- Randomly browsing local feeds of different instances
- Randomly browsing the federated feed
- Randomly browsing local feed
There are instances for different interests like game development, art, information security, foss etc so there’s a lot of places to dig for good content.
LittleTrashDoll, Neat!!!
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