Were all playing Fallout games again. Does the franchise have a "starting the game" problem?

Rpmkp, 15 days ago

@Melkath imo the biggest problem with Bethesda games is the amount of time you have to spend in menu due to the equipment stat spreads, “junk” collection/economy, and character management. I’d be much happier with an “unlock” system for weapons and armor where you could pick up equipment and unlock it rather than add to inventory. Then have the game economy be around quest rewards rather than junk hauling to sell. Have consumables follow the Witcher pattern of charges until resting. This would massively reduce inventory time and make the games way more playable.

nac82, 15 days ago

FO76 is fun from the start, I just can’t take people seriously who make generic complaints like this.

You can’t make it down the hill? Wha,t was character customization with a prebuilt class option too much for you?

You’re probably getting out of the games what you give them. Go in looking for the meme opinions on FO:NV superiority and all the other games being bad, and guess what, you’re not going to enjoy it.

FluorideMind, 15 days ago

I play new Vegas every year. Usually have a 6-9 month break then I’m back at it. By far the best fallout experience is new Vegas with tale of two wastelands.

Bytemeister, 15 days ago

FO4, skip the museum. I usually clear out the raiders there, and then start my first base at the Starlight drive in, from there, you’ve got a good outpost to hit most of the starter stuff north of downtown. Once I’ve got decent lockpicking, hacking and survivability, I’ll head to Hangman’s alley, setup there and start clearing clearing out the north end of Downtown, and jaunt over to Goodneighbor and Bunker Hill.

SpaghettiYeti, 16 days ago

I tried FO4 over the weekend and did a fresh install with only a few of the most popular mods from the built in mod store… every one of them broke the game.

sxan, 16 days ago

Not just you. I don’t remember which Fallout game I got, but it probably wasn’t the first, and I got to like the second objective where I’m supposed to help some settlement restart their power generator by finding some part, and I realized I was too bored to continue. It was like I could see the entire game stretched ahead of me as more of the same.

Not all games are for all players, so I never thought “Fallout sux”; it just wasn’t my bag. I think the Fallouts are micro-farming long-winded objectives for really small benefits; I guess a lot of people like that, but it’s not for me.

essell, 16 days ago

Having played them all a lot, I still feel the urge to go back every year or two.

What gets me over that hurdle I think you’re describing is there’s a goal I want to reach. A different way to do a quest, a DLC I’ve not played in a long time, a character build to try.

Given that the games are so open ended coming up with a reason why you’re playing of your own matters.

style99, 16 days ago

For me, the mods keep the game from becoming too punishing. FNV needs a lot of mods to keep the bugs and the invisible walls from killing your game. FO3 and FO4 need quest fixes and additional quest mods to keep them interesting.

Son_of_dad, 16 days ago

I recently played fo4 with mods and over did it. I’m running around in power armor with infinite energy, with a crazy railgun, mowing down everything that moves. It got old fast. I’ll have to go back in with different mods that are more fun.

slazer2au, 16 days ago

Swing all the way back in the other direction and give the Frost mod a go.

Bytemeister, 15 days ago

Honestly, the only “OP” mod that I would recommend is the one that lets you craft legendary effects. There is an option on the installer that disabled the crafting and lets you just move legendary effects to different items, which makes it more rewarding to find legendaries instead of disappointing.

Melkath, 16 days ago

Once I get into the game, I love the mechanics.

It just feels like each game has its own "youre gonna suffer for a very long time, then you will get to good part of the game" energy. And god forbid you put the game down before you reach the end, because you will never get to the end again.

It's more of an indictment on my attention span than the game, but fuck man.

wesker, 15 days ago

Fallout 3, NV, and 4 in my opinion are best played as open-world hoarding simulators. Clear out a building that’d make a good storage base, then explore every inch of the map killing and looting, and bringing the booty back to your base. If there’s a quest in the area you’re gonna loot next, then do it.

0xtero, 16 days ago

This sounds like average Bethesda experience. I always get hyped by their pre-releases, but I find the actual games to be tedious and boring slogs.

I know it’s down to personal taste, but I think I enjoy a bit more rail-roading and bit less sandbox. Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are “just right” for me, the story is tight. Bethesda games a bit loosey-goosey (ha!) with their storytelling.

Melkath, 16 days ago

Cyberpunk had a sweet spot for me.

I am 0 for 2 on getting into Witcher games.

terrrmus, 15 days ago

I'm 0 for 6. Tried each one vanilla and modded. Couldn't do it but I really wanted to lol.

wesker, 16 days ago

Fallout and Fallout 2 have a “putting down the game” problem for me.

Gradually_Adjusting, 16 days ago

Two does have a slightly annoying beginning, but I forgive it. The original two games have such good writing the graphics don’t matter.