mem_somerville,
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ICYMI: if you are a textile artist, you might appreciate this piece by Elena Kanagy-Loux.

"My Grandma’s Doilies Are Not a Joke

When will art institutions finally pay respect to our foremothers’ artistry?"

https://hyperallergic.com/906788/my-grandmas-doilies-are-not-a-joke/

DMakarios,
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@mem_somerville A good read!
In my experience, phrases like "not your grandmother's xyz" are code for "aiming for cool not quality".
I have previously ranted about this myself:
https://deborah.makarios.nz/blog/2023/08/03/not-your-grandmothers/

NatureMC,
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NatureMC, (edited )
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@mem_somerville It makes me sad to read that this behaviour exists. Could it be a cultural problem?
I volunteer in a French centre + (early 20th c.) with two international festivals + never ever experienced this. Not only that in France ancient and skills are strongly supported, meanwhile many institutions look for people who can still teach these skills. Our group (the youngest 61) can hardly save itself from requests for presentations in

NatureMC,
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@mem_somerville other museums and at exhibitions. Our classes for tatting lace are fully booked every time, the last time the youngest student was 14. All generations come together, the teacher is 86!
Here, people appreciate being able to learn from someone with such experience. On Sundays, children learn skills from women over 70 as a matter of course, and nobody finds that strange or laughable. It's normal.
@fibrearts @fiberarts

tikistitch,
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@mem_somerville

THANK YOU.

The counterpart to "young girls like it so it must be laughable" must truly be "older women like it so it must be worthy of contempt." What sexist drivel.

melindrea,
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@mem_somerville The two things that turns me off of a crafter/their patterns/their youtube channel the fastest ...

  1. "not your grandma's"
  2. g*psy (the second word because it is considered a slur by many Romani)

I unfortunately never learned to crochet from my grandmother, but she was absolutely an artisan, and so was my mother. nowadays I crochet, and am flattered that when my family wants crochet, they ask me.

mem_somerville,
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@melindrea Right. I very much appreciate Elena taking a blow-torch to this idea.

And she also gave me more fuel to add these details to Wikipedia....

melindrea,
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@mem_somerville What kind of absolute bullshit "teehee, oh, you thought fibre arts could have value? lulz!" of a "joke" was that? >.<

I like reminding people that much of what we know about the Battle of Hastings (1066, the Normands conquering England) ... was because women made a tapestry of the battle.

melindrea,
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@mem_somerville (technically embroidered, which apparently doesn't match the definition of tapestry, but ...) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayeux_Tapestry

NatureMC,
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@melindrea Interesting: in France, it's meanwhile named "Broderie (embroidery) de Bayeux" but we use the ancient name because of old habit. Even this comes from "tapisserie aux points d'aiguille" = "needlepoint tapestry".

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