some_guy,

That’s why European colonialists hoarded the blankets infested with measles. Had the indigenous population got hold of them, they’d turn into super warriors and the Americas would never have been conquered by the invaders. Don’t you know your history?

BonesOfTheMoon,

Dang I should have studied more.

Trollivier,

Whoever pays for an homeopath needs to cut just a tiny corner of a $20 bill, dilute it 1000 times in water and pay with that. It’s worth more than the homeopathic services.

twig,

All these people do is prescribe placebos. Homeopathy is almost funny save for the damage it does by pretending to be medecine.

Wilzax,

Do these people think Measles is the goddamn Pokérus?

NegativeInf,

“I caught the measles and I turned into Mr Mime.” Terrifying…

blahsay,

Reading things like this makes me wish we could slap people through the internet

Treczoks,

Just another guy supporting my theory that homeopathy is quack and should be illegal, and people promoting it should be sued for medical malpractice.

AnalogyAddict,

Out of curiosity, where’s the line? Are you going to jail people for drinking herbal tea for their head cold?

Soggy,

We should probably make it illegal to market herbal beverages as managing symptoms. If a bit of chamomile goes down gently that’s fine, but a little asterix on the front of every “throat soothing” tea is a pretty flimsy defense for unsubstantiated medical claims.

Holyginz,

Herbal tea for a head cold isn’t homeopathy in the way its being referred to here.

Starbuck,

I used to run into this a lot. In some non-American cultures, Indian specifically, Homeopathic refers to what Americans would call Herbal. I had an old girlfriend who didn’t understand why I was so against her families traditional herbal remedies. I finally asked her what she thought homeopathic was. After showing her all the stuff online, she agreed that it sounded crazy and started using the word herbal.

Not to say that’s universal, but just something I experienced

nightwatch_admin,

Herbs are definitely something else entirely. Abused by scammers, true, but there is plenty medicine made from plants.
Am very sorry but need to draw the Ley line somewhere.

AnalogyAddict,

Absolutely a line needs to be drawn, I’m just wondering where people would draw it.

nightwatch_admin,

(I put in a little joke: rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ley_line)

SharkAttak,
SharkAttak avatar

Herbology is not homeopathy.

8ender,

Anyone else feel like these kinds of things are the state sponsored bot farms at work? I mean how better to sow chaos than convince stupid parents that the measles are a good thing?

BonesOfTheMoon,

Russian state sponsored bot farms, yeah.

hark,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

Russia isn’t behind everything negative in the world.

BonesOfTheMoon,

Certainly not. Russia has created some fantastic things, art and music and literature and has many fantastic people too. Its politics are just highly unfortunate and it’s well documented the Russian government has used social media to create disinformation campaigns. It is not the Russian population’s fault in any way. When I think of the ones who protested the Ukrainian war despite the fact it might get them imprisoned or their families killed I’m blown away at their bravery.

olutukko,

Not everything but they are actively doing a damn lot of negative things. Including a shit ton of bot networks and internet trolling

irreticent,

For anyone unfamiliar:

“The Internet Research Agency (IRA; Russian: Агентство интернет-исследований, romanized: Agentstvo internet-issledovaniy), also known as Glavset (Russian: Главсеть),[1] and known in Russian Internet slang as the Trolls from Olgino (Russian: ольгинские тролли) or Kremlinbots (Russian: кремлеботы[2]), was a Russian company which was engaged in online propaganda and influence operations on behalf of Russian business and political interests.[3] It was linked to Yevgeny Prigozhin, a former Russian oligarch who was leader of the Wagner Group, and based in Saint Petersburg, Russia.”

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Doesn’t need to be state sponsored, there are companies making good money from those legalized pseudoscientific scams, see Boiron and Weleda.

WamGams,

Ahh yes, Boiron, the company that doesn’t tell their customer’s their number 1 product is duck liver, because if they did that, they would have to explain they are only pretending it is duck liver.

spittingimage, (edited )
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

Instead of going to homeopaths for advice, why don’t we grind up homeopaths and dilute them with water a couple dozen times? That’s how it works, right?

BonesOfTheMoon,

10/10 best use of a homeopath.

Alexstarfire,

I think compost would be better. What if they have a disease?

AmidFuror,

The bigger the body of water you dump them in, the more potent they become.

Akasazh,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

No! You’d make them more powerful!

modeler,

This is a brilliant idea - not just because it solves the problem of too many homeopaths but because of the way homeopathy ‘works’.

Homeopathy is the idea that “like treats like” (the homeo is latin for “the same”). So typically the homeopath looks at the symptoms of the disease, finds some poison that causes the same symptoms, then dilutes the hell out of it.

In this case, what are the symptoms that homeopathy causes? Dumbness. So the ground up homeopath pills would be ideal for treating homeopath users and practitioners. And the Gwyneth Paltrow crowd. So many birds with one stone!

HawlSera,

They’re so dilluted that you can take Homeopathy pills all day and not overdose… Allegedly, that’s what I’ve heard, please don’t test this… Even if they do nothing, ingesting too much of anything can be bad.

affiliate,

little know fact but einstein actually got measles 6 times and thats why hes so smart

spoiler(he did not actually get measles 6 times)

RizzRustbolt,

Let’s see what Zombie Roald Dahl has to say about the subject…

BonesOfTheMoon,

God bless all he did to promote vaccines.

partial_accumen,

I’m not sure the 6 million people that died from Measles before we had the vaccine would agree “Measles is a positive illness”.

“Prior to the introduction of measles vaccination in 1963, there were >100 million measles cases resulting in 6 million deaths worldwide, with 4 million cases and 450 deaths in the US annually.” source

BonesOfTheMoon,

Or all the people who lost their hearing or sight but survived.

Melatonin,

In 2011/2012 Influenza caused death in 0.13% of cases according to the CDC.

According to the numbers in your quote, in 1963 Measles did cause death 6% of the time worldwide, but it only caused death 0.011% of the time in the U.S., less than Influenza in modern times.

I don’t know why, but I felt like your numbers weren’t compelling, and I felt like looking them up. I don’t know what it means though. I’m sure there are other factors to be considered.

deegeese,

Not 6 million dead.

6 million dead each year.

GBU_28,

We’ve had one 6 million yes.

PrincessLeiasCat,

Yeah but they didn’t have essential oils back then /s

remotedev,

Too much tech time and not enough picture books

Ultraviolet,

Also even if you survive, it fucks up your immune system for several years after, preventing you from developing immunities and even erasing ones you already had.

stinerman,
@stinerman@midwest.social avatar

These people should have their children taken away from them.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

This is a person that people with children taken advice from!

BonesOfTheMoon,

100% agree. CPS should be way more aggressive because it’s neglect and abuse. I am so sick of seeing them treated with kid gloves.

candybrie,

The issue is where the kids go after you take them away. It’s not like foster care is renowned for its nurturing environment. Would these kids actually be better off there?

BonesOfTheMoon,

It is way bigger than that, I agree. But these kids aren’t even being educated, and it’s really troubling.

HollandJim,

I’m a homeopath…

That’s not how you spell “psychopath”.

BonesOfTheMoon,

They’re trash

buddascrayon,

No, it’s an alternative spelling for moron.

wesker,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

FB is a breeding ground for the perpetuation of dangerous old wive tale mentality. We should totally let these contributors onto the fediverse.

Fontasia,

Oh Flower you forgot to link to the rose water cure you’re selling!

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

probably because links were dissabled because they did mention the Helios help lime

dejected_warp_core,

help lime

Typeo or weird fruit?

RizzRustbolt,

Those are the ones they put on the rims of margheritas.

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