I miss my S-10. You could crawl in the engine bay. 8 foot bed. Manual transmission. I know those size trucks aren’t coming back anytime soon or probably ever.
Lemmy/Fediverse comment sections are pretty bad about making up personality traits/stereotyping people who do things they disagree with. This thread is wild.
You can rent a pickup for something like $20/day as needed. Or, just keep an old junker pickup around. But, renting as needed would be the cheapest option for most people.
My coworker in an office job drove an American-style pickup (it dwarfed my Fiesta on a parking lot), coincidentally he was also a hunter so it was just a cherry on top of the douchebaggery
Being a hunter that eats whatever he hunts is less douchbaggy than not being a hunter and eating meat (like myself). Aldo, the fact that he is a hunter, maybe explain the truck choice
I have lately been pretty convinced that 70% of pickup drivers don’t actually need a truck but instead use it to compensate their insecurity about their small dicks and their fragile masculinity.
Absolutely. All you have to ask is why they need to own a truck and they instantly get overly defensive. I’m not saying there aren’t cases where you need to own truck but the vast majority of cases people bring up don’t even require a truck much less owning one.
Let’s just get inspired by oats jenkins and his idea for redoing the traffic system and add a truck license, and you’ll have to renew it every six months, just so they don’t keep it forever
The license would be given to people that have genuine need for a vehicle like this, and don’t have access to one (so if your job gives you a truck you can have it, it would have the job license on it, but then you cannot have your own license)
Otherwise they would just tell you to go fuck yourself because you don’t need a truck like this
I live in Europe where trucks are fairly rare but you still see large SUVs, 4x4s and vans around. My own feeling is that certain classes of vehicles should be considered commercial for the purposes of insurance, taxation, VAT, inspection, tolls, permitted usage and everything else. The legislation already exists for commercial vehicles so extend it to these kind of vehicles.
So is someone must have a stupidly oversized vehicle purely for personal reasons they can enjoy all the bullshit and restrictions that goes with it. Doesn’t stop them complying but making it more onerous to do it will take demand for these vehicles off the market entirely.
My wife insisted on getting an SUV for her car. It’s a hybrid, but it’s still an SUV. I really wish she hadn’t gotten it. It’s too big for me, I won’t drive it. I can’t tell her what to do with her money, but I didn’t like that she got it.
I agree, I think we could even go further and make vehicles of a certain size use cargo lanes on the highway.
My wife is European and lives in the US and she thinks the fact that giant SUVs and trucks can have such a vast size differential to compact cars, so that she is eye-level with their bumper, and that both use the same license and same lanes, is incredibly dangerous.
I can’t wait til we as a society get over shaming small dicks. I don’t have a dick but it’s cringy to me when people use “small dick” as an insult like this.
For me it’s not so much trying to insult them for having a small dick, but insulting them for caring so much about having a small dick they feel the need to compensate.
Doesn’t matter that their dick is small, just that they’re so insecure about it they need to try and tell the world it’s not true.
Edit: I don’t actually use this word and not the happiest I said it, but I was trying to call out the hypocracy of ‘it doesn’t actually mean what is sounds like’
It’s a slippery slope that we just shouldn’t slide down
Well, you’re not exactly contributing to a world where that insecurity is eliminated. And besides, you’ll never win an emotional debate with rational arguments.
For me it’s not so much trying to insult them for having a small dick, but insulting them for caring so much about having a small dick they feel the need to compensate.
It’s very weird that you care so much about the size of other men’s penis. It’s equally weird that you care what someone else drives.
Are we at a point in society where we can no longer do anything as long as some internet keyboard warrior doesn’t think we should?
“You don’t fit into the sociocultural group I’m a part of, AKA THE BEST GROUP, because you are not sending the right social signals! Therefore YOU ARE NOT A VERILE MATE FOR THE HOMINID FEMALES!”
“NO! CLEARLY IT IS YOU WHO WILL NOT SEED THE NEXT GENERATION OF OFFSPRING! Based on all the information I’ve gotten about appropriate social signals for my gender, age, ethnicity, cult, location and socioeconomic status, I am displaying the appropriate signals! So I shall point at you and say WEIRD!”
Well, I kind of agree with you, but also what I intended to say is that I think most pick up drivers don’t feel masculine enough, whether it’s due to a small dick or something else making them feel like they aren’t “real men”, so they compensate their insecurity by driving unnecessarily large cars.
Yeah, I maybe should have left the dick part out. A man can have a small penis and still not be insecure, and a man with a huge one can still be insecure about their masculinity and try to fix that insecurity with a stupid truck.
Someone I work with has never not owned a truck, mostly because “they don’t need the hassle of renting one when they need to do yardwork and buy a fridge from the store” or something.
So spending an extra $20,000-$30,000 every 10 years is totally worth those occasional trips and avoiding renting a tailer/pickup from home Depot maybe twice a year.
Its a mystery how some of these people are broke af and how they would be more wealthy if they invested the cash in better stuff than blowing it all on impulsive purchases, lottery, and eating out.
The $1,400 it cost me to buy a 5x10 utility trailer was money well spent. It has easily paid for itself over the years. I sold my last pickup years ago. If I need to use the trailer, it takes 5 minutes to hook it up. Having space to store it and a legit need for it are key factors here as well.
I have one because I’m 6’ 7" and I don’t fit comfortably in much. One of my managers is super small, but drives a lifted Ram. I have yet to see him get into it but it must be funny to see.
I have a pickup. My wife says she likes my penis size. I question your hypothesis. Today, I used it to haul fire wood and tow a broken down ATV. Yesterday, I brought kayaks up to my family cabin. It gets used. Pre-COVID, it was part of the first leg of my commute. I’m not going to have a separate vehicle just to drive to the train station. That’s absurd.
Lol not only do you have poor reading comprehension, you have also failed to get anyone to believe what you just said. If i may provide some advice, if someone say something on the Internet that doesn’t apply to you you do not have to get offened by it. Have a nice day friend.
I drove smaller trucks for about 20 years. I actually just got a small cargo van (NV200), but still have my Colorado after the dealership offered me $100 in trade-in.
I have a truck to haul things. Trash, lumber, kayaks, bikes, and I’ve moved friends and family members at least 6 times. It’s a 1995 and it spends most of its time parked though, it’s not a daily driver. And I really dislike all the tall and massive trucks now. I want a bed that’s actually low enough to be accessible.
Also, with large vehicles more generally, there’s this awful snowball effect where people go “I get to sit up high and it’s bigger, so I feel safer! Besides, when I’m in a regular car I feel like I’m going to get crushed like a beer can.”
This of course ignores that:
Pedestrians are fucked
With everyone buying bigger, heavier vehicles, the energy involved in most collisions is significantly greater and I doubt anyone’s much safer for it. People in smaller cars just get screwed.
Also it’s an arms race. They feel safer because they’re comparatively above smaller cars, but then when everyone is riding tall trucks that additional feeling of safety becomes moot as you no longer have the additional height/visibility over everyone else.
And conversely, the reason they feel less safe in smaller cars is because of the comparison to larger cars on the road. They aren’t solving anything in a larger vehicle, they’re just perpetuating onto others what gave them small-vehicle anxiety in the first place.
I promise you the amount I save on my payment + gas is far more than the amount it costs me to rent a truck the very, very rare occasions I need one. The same goes for the vast majority of American suburbanites.
That doesn't make it a sane choice for day-to-day transportation. If you can afford to have a regular car and a truck on the side for utility, great. Otherwise, why drive this giant polluting POS, which are usually rather expensive to purchase as well as to operate? Trucks aren't that comfortable to drive imo... hard to see in front of you, stop poorly, turn poorly, difficult to park. When you need to move furniture or whatever you can rent one for a day for $40.
Or, and hear me out, I can rent a truck for the one time a year I need one. 20 bucks for a few hours from uhaul vs… 20,000 more for a big truck over a commuter car.
That’s what I keep thinking about. Like sometimes I would love an older, smaller styled truck. It could be really useful, but it sucks they aren’t really an option anymore.
But then I think about it, and how often would I use it? I just bought a TV and had to have it delivered because it wouldn’t fit in our car. We recently moved, and it would have been great.
But other than that, I honestly can’t think of any time recently I’ve needed it.
I’ve thought that too. If they made a tiny truck, like an old style 90s ranger or tacoma but as an EV? I’d buy that tomorrow. Literally tomorrow I’d go buy it. But of course they don’t, they’re all these monstrously sized bohemoths that I have no interest in driving.
Until they make my dream tiny truck I’ll just go rent one.
In Asia they sell thousands of those Japanese and Korean mini trucks and vans, but they are designed for roads 80kmh and below. In Australia we have the Hilux 2wd utes which are small and bare bones. But for every one of those, Toyota sell 20 HiAce vans.
The Ranger was actually the one I was picturing. One of my friends in high school had one, and we all thought it was so cool. This was in a small town in Texas, so we could all ride in the back, which looking back… yeah, not the best idea. I’ve heard stories of people getting hurt. So I wouldn’t do it anymore. But it was always just a cool truck and I was always a little jealous of her.
It absolutely depends on how often you use it. But if you leave it, I can almost guarantee that you will get a lower price for it, even if you only used it once. I agree that, if you are using it regularly, you need to be honest about it
20k just for the cost of the vehicle, probably MORE, plus extra insurance, gas tax cost all to save 50$ once in a while on a truck rental.
Not to mention that a pickup is basically half a completely useless car. You can’t sit in the back, you can’t really use it for hauling delicate stuff… It’s just such a bizzare concept for non farmers.
For real I had a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon a while back. Went to a tool consignment store. Saw a full sized tablesaw with stand. Owner told me he’d give me $25 off if I could fit the whole thing in my Tiburon…and I did. And it wasn’t even hard.
I fold the seats down in my 12 year old BMW and have moved twice with that car! I even fit my mountain bike in the back many times (until I got a hitch rack because it was annoying lol).
Fr; I have a tiny CRZ coupe, but when I fold the back buckets down I can fit a tremendous amount of stuff in my car, even awkward and unwieldy-shaped things
Nope… we were chatting and I was saying it’s nuts that 80$ to fill my suv… He then responded its 80$ for him to go to work and back… So he may be exaggerating but I’m just passing the message…
If you are paying more than $120 per year in fluid changes/routine maintenance you are getting ripped off big time (huge).
And frankly there aren’t maintenance fees you should be paying outside that.
Just about everything else is rated for 10 years including ceramic break pads.
If you are paying more than that on anything but a collector car, you are pouring money in to a pit that isn’t worth it. Craig’s list fixer uppers tend to do better at that point.
My coworker lives in a downtown apartment with a cramped parking garage and bought a full size pickup to drive 1.5 miles to the parking garage at our workplace to write code. I’m embarrassed for them and keep telling them to buy a bicycle
As long as you’re in Europe. Those things could be useful in North America but I can’t see how they will ever get approved in Canada or in the US. I don’t know about micro cars in Mexico and their laws but in Canada, everything between a full fledged car and an e-bike is considered “too dangerous, unsafe, not serious, toy-like” and is generally forbidden to go on roads and/or bike paths.
For example, in Quebec, it’s illegal to use an e-bike under 18 years old without a scooter licence. So the Ami has no chance at all here, unfortunately.
They are very different “vehicles”. The class which allows Ami to operate in most European countries does not exist in most North American jurisdictions. A Smart is classified as a car and is road legal but an Ami is considered a quadricycle and as such is usually not considered road legal in most of North America.
Where I live it’s not considered as any type of valid vehicle. If it sticks to quadricycle, the law is going to require pedals, limit it to 25 kph and a helmet for the passengers.
There are places in the US that have some “neighbourhood EV” laws that make these legal on local roads, but it’s far from being common.
So if you are successful in importing one, you will most likely only be able to use it on private land.
Also, no insurance company is going to want to insure it.
And, to top ot all, the dealer, Stellantis, is apparently much more interested in selling pick-ups to North Americans.
…don’t expect to get one through Canadian or USA Stellantis dealer networks. They are 100% obsessed on moving EV versions of Jeeps, RAM pick-ups, the new Airflow crossover and their ProMaster truck offerings.
I wouldn’t know, riding a bike around here would be a death sentence. Roadrage can often end in a drive-by in Oklahoma if the news is to be believed and drunk driving is a pretty common sight in the area I live. There’s also no bike lane, usually no sidewalks and long stretches of road without a crosswalk in sight.
I used to own an HR-V. They’re good cars, but slow as stink. They took something with the wind profile of the CR-V and put the same engine in it as the '06 Civic. Still did like high 30s/low 40s on gas most of the time. So that was cool. Plus, it’s pretty spacious. It just needed like 40 more hp. Or a manual. Or both.
It was built on the same platform as the Fit so it’s got the neat rear seats that flip up. Seriously useful small car. I once hauled a whole ass 60" countertop halfway across the state in it. I guess they just decided the American market wants to go upsize. The Fit is probably one of the best suburban cars ever.
Having a vehicle that emits more pollution, does more damage to roads, and is more likely to kill pedestrians is pretty fucking selfish and deserving of hate.
The responsibility of pollution is not on individuals. The pollution from mega corps compared to the every day man is a staggering exponential difference.
More likely to kill pedestrians? All vehicles can kill pedestrians. How is this even a talking point you idiots parrot back and forth.
It’s way more likely to kill pedestrians. Trucks and SUVs have terrible sight lines for pedestrians, especially children, and especially in front of the vehicle. They also are more damaging to pedestrians in an collision, and have much higher rates of injury and fatality than sedans, station wagons, and coupes. The X factor here is that a higher percentage of the less secure, less capable drivers buy larger vehicles to insulate themselves from other vehicles on the road, and they drive with that same mentality around pedestrian-rich areas.
Trucks and SUVs are terrible, and you should only buy one if you need one, otherwise you look like a fucking jackass.
Make sure you grab some “I did that” Biden stickers to slap on gas pumps. Really lean in to that “I make poor decisions and blame the wrong person for the consequences” energy.
Because I disagree with you about vehicles you think I’m a MAGA dude? Get a grip.
Trucks are available for purchase in America. Americans love them. It is what it is. If you don’t like it, move or push for legislative change.
Truck owners sure as shit don’t care about your talking points and will buy another, and another, and another. Nobody’s going to be convinced by pedestrian safety statistics or mpg concerns.
Trucks are so deeply woven into America’s culture I think guns would be banned sooner.
It’s also on individuals, our purchasing choices shape what corporations decide to make. if people only bought fuel efficient vehicles companies wouldn’t build these idiotic mega polluting trucks.
And trucks are vastly more dangerous for pedestrians than other vehicles. they have massive blind spots, and weight a shitton more. As trucks have kept getting bigger, pedestrian deaths have gone up, that’s why we bring it up.
Driving 1.5miles twice a day everyday is a sure way to drain the car battery and multiply the wear and tear on the engine. Short trips are fine occasionally, but sooner rather than later the check engine light will pop up.
It depends. The battery issue is a nonissue, but the short trip can absolutely have an effect. It takes longer for your engine to reach true operating temperature than the oil/water coolant to get to temp. There’s videos out there that can explain the equations for larger engines, but if the drive is less than 15 minutes, it’s likely he’s building up carboxylic acids from nonvaporized water in the pistons. That ain’t a good thing.
I believe it comes from a saying that most wear is in the first ten minutes of driving.
Which I also believe assumes you don’t “wait for the car to warm up”
That saying. I still find some truth to it. While modern cars can adjust fuel mixture to different conditions. There still is an unavoidable few minutes where the engine runs in an open loop and wear is greater.
That said, in my vehicle when I listen for the engine to “close” it happens in less than 5 minutes.
Look at the owners manual in your car, and it will say trips less than a couple of miles are considered severe duty, and the oil needs to be changed more often. Your can get condensation in the engine that can break down the oil faster.
Cold starts are where most of the wear and tear occurs.
Jesus. And I felt guilty for my commute only taking about 10 minutes down a highway. However, I didn’t have a choice because the only access to the industrial park where I worked was from that highway. I still felt bad about it.
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