The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.
If I already had a Tesla I don't know that I'd sell it because of him, but he was one of the major factors in me not even considering them when I was shopping for my EV. The other reasons being shoddy quality control, shitty practices, and dumb design decisions. All of which probably stem from him anyway.
teslas were cool when they were the only practical electric cars, especially sports cars. but that's no longer true and it's becoming less so every year. may as well get a mach-e or a ioniq and ditch muskyboy
Yeah, if my car was beyond repair tomorrow and I needed a new one, I’d be getting either a Hyundai Ioniq 6 or a Silverado EV. A few years ago, I would’ve been leaning toward the Model 3.
I’m saying if you want an EV6 and you don’t care about one pedal driving, then you don’t have to worry about that problem. It’s an optional driving mode that I personally don’t use since I dislike it.
While I understand your perspective I don’t think you’re seeing mine.
I understand I don’t have to use that feature, I’m concerned about the (now fixed) safety violation the feature presents by not indicating that someone is breaking when those drivers who want to use it choose to do so.
Simply saying “don’t use it” only fixes it in one instance.
I really want a bolt euv but I’m put off by them cancelling and then uncancelling it. I’m worried what will happen when they stop making the car (and therefore parts for it) a year or two after I bought it…
No car is made forever, even a next generation isn’t going to use the same parts and this has regularly happened with cars when they make new generations, it’s not a new problem.
Same. I had to get a new car recently. Prices were crazy and I wish I had gone with a new instead of a used. But Tesla was off the list from the beginning. I figured I'd wait one more car to get electric. Should be in a new place by then where I can install a home charger too, and the prices will probably be drastically lower by the time my current car dies again.
I’d be looking to sell it, specifically because of him.
The willingness for him to make executive decisions to fuck people using his platforms is what frightens me. He’ll cut starlink for people he doesn’t like. He’ll snipe twitter accounts of people he doesn’t like.
Since Teslas can be remotely force fed new updates, I genuinely believe it’s just a matter of time before he starts fucking with peoples cars. I expect as a way to use Tesla owners as pawns to apply political pressure in areas w/ high ownership that enact tax policy he doesn’t like.
I wouldn't doubt he'd try that, but if he did he'd be in for a world of hurt since people need their cars to get to work. I imagine the government wouldn't take kindly to people's 5 digit dollar purchased not working on the whims of a crazy billionaire.
It doesn’t have to be as blatant as turning them off. Just garnishing features. Nerfing sentinel, range, top speed, etc.
I can almost hear the bullshit. “X state’s lithium recycling tax policy means we have to limit discharge to 80% to avoid premature battery degredation. Drivers may notice a range reduction but it is required to operate within this new regulatory environment”
Not only that, it has to be effecting their hiring. I haven’t replied to tesla recruiter asking to set up an interview because I don’t wanna work for him
That’s a smart call. Working conditions at his companies are wild. You’ll be required to work 80 hours a week every week or be fired. But at the same time you’ll be working in a pretty building with young people and a great cafeteria where you sometimes go to nice parties.
“The survey also found that 87% of Model 3 owners are considering a Tesla for their next vehicles. That means it’s a fairly small percentage of people who are actually walking away from Tesla overall, and only about one in five of those people are doing it because of Musk.
The rest of the survey is quite glowing for the Model 3, as most owners appear to be very happy about their purchase and how their cars are holding up.”
I own and still like the model 3 that I own but I’m not about to sell it just because Elon’s douchecanoe, that’s just dumb. Now I can guarantee that the next EV I get will not be a Tesla though because Musk’s action and values go too counter to my own now.
False dychotomy. They’re not stating the rest of the industry is exempt from capitalism, but that they don’t have a loudly fascist-adjacent individual as a leading figure and, if I may add, they have better build quality and reliability than Tesla’s. At this point I have yet to meet in real life one single Tesla user who is happy with their purchase. Long before the Elon and Twitter drama, I recall one of my CS profs talking about their Tesla saying something like “The software and the self-driving features are what make this car valuable on the market, but, taken it as a car, it sucks compared to everything else”
The way they iterate on production cars means they can have much improved parts as time goes by. But they don’t tell anyone that they’re doing it, and can just as easily fucking yup an iteration and you’d have no idea it’s only on the few hundred or thousand cars made the that same month.
Finding parts is a nightmare and both production speed and treating cars like beta software is making it even worse.
The only thing that makes a used Tesla worth buying is the battery and drivetrain. Parting this parts out to car conversion is already a profitable business. The rest of the car is recycling.
I love the car, so do both my parents. We all hate Elon… and would be my only reason to not get another one, but I still havent found another EV i like other than the Polestar 2 but I need more range.
This simply says that Elon succeeded. Guys a shithead, but his goal with Tesla was to kickstart the progress of electric cars. Tesla can go under for all I care, they did manage to get other companies to care about producing EVs and now there are tons available. They're no longer a monopoly on electric vehicles and I'm quite happy about that, people have choice now.
The vehicles are decent, the service is terminally putrid. Bad alignment from the factory ruined $5k in tires, Tesla offered me $500 off the cost of replacement.
I took it in for another issue, and when I told the tech about how the car burned through the inside edge of the tires on the car, he said “Yeah, they do that.” and followed it with a recommendation that I get wheel alignments TWICE A YEAR.
I work in the rim and tire industry. We have anywhere between 10-14 installs a week (just tires or tire and rim packages etc) we deal with a LOT of Tesla’s. They ALL do this. Alignments barely help, they are heavy cars with very poor suspension geometry. I know for the model S there was an aftermarket company that made a kit to fix the excessive camber in the rear to alleviate the tire wear issue but I’m not too sure on other models. I see and work on at least 3 Tesla’s a week, seeing what I’ve seen, even if someone offered me one for free. I would trade it for another EV.
I get that the cars are heavy, but the tires should wear evenly - 80,000lb tractor trailers don’t burn through the inside edge of tires at 25% of their usable life… As far as suspension is concerned, they did replace parts in the rear to allow them to better adjust the alignment, and I’ve put fewer miles on the vehicle this year, plus had a warranty repair that required re-aligning all tires again… But I’m going to be super pissed if it happens a second time.
Isn’t it also the fact that everything he touches explodes and ends up being an unsafe product? I’d rather buy any other brand before buying Tesla, even regardless of his extremely unlikable personality and dumbass choices.
I used to want a Tesla… Now I don’t. That’s 60% Elon and 40% their poor build quality.
The second percentage should be higher. It’s not, though. Elon is a very hateable person due to his low IQ, and astronomically high level of arrogance.
Same for me. Was saving for a Tesla, but now I’ll go with a different brand. For me, it’s 75% Elon and 25% that I’m just starting to prefer what other EV makers are putting on the market.
Oh no, they’re very safe. You just might not be able to open your trunk or roll down windows for eight months until the dealership 200 miles away can attempt to look at the problem, fix the trunk, and somehow break the passenger door in the process.
I honestly couldn’t understand how people had any praise for him in years past. He always came across as (yet another) embarrassing forever teenager, born with a silver spoon in his mouth and little sympathy for or understanding of others.
This is in vast contrast to Bill Gates who (despite my loathing of Microsoft’s business practices, especially in the 90’s and early 00’s) continued to grow and earned some respect with his philanthropic endeavours and just generally acting like an educated adult.
Still, I’d rather have fewer rich jetsetters and more competent Governments and international institutions, effectively working to better mankind.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt, although there was certainly doubt, until the “pedo guy” thing. Then I realized he was just a manchild. And, of course, he used his high-priced lawyers to get out of that obvious slander in court.
So they approve of zucc, whoever tf runs google, jeff bezos and other pieces of shit, but elon is the breaking point for them? That’s a stupid reason if you ask me.
I reckon if the Google CEO came out and called someone rescuing children from a cave a pedophile, was sued for Sexual Misconduct, then bought a stupid platform and started bitching and moaning about everything a lot of people would consider changing their stuff away from google stuff.
Maybe Teslas will come with disguise kits, where you can switch the Tesla logo with a different brand. Just like Twitter created the option to hide the Twitter blue checkmark…
Like ones of the new episodes of it’s always Sunny in Philadelphia where they disguised a tesla with decals and wheel well fairings (to not be sued) as Dennis has a untethered rage experience with it
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