AP Explains: 4/20 grew from humble roots to marijuana's high holiday

Saturday marks marijuana culture’s high holiday, 4/20, when college students gather — at 4:20 p.m. — in clouds of smoke on campus quads and pot shops in legal-weed states thank their customers with discounts.

This year’s edition provides an occasion for activists to reflect on how far their movement has come, with recreational pot now allowed in nearly half the states and the nation’s capital. Many states have instituted “social equity” measures to help communities of color, harmed the most by the drug war, reap financial benefits from legalization. And the White House has shown an openness to marijuana reform.

(T)he prevailing explanation is that it started in the 1970s with a group of bell-bottomed buddies from San Rafael High School, in California’s Marin County north of San Francisco, who called themselves “the Waldos.” A friend’s brother was afraid of getting busted for a patch of cannabis he was growing in the woods at nearby Point Reyes, so he drew a map and gave the teens permission to harvest the crop, the story goes.

During fall 1971, at 4:20 p.m., just after classes and football practice, the group would meet up at the school’s statue of chemist Louis Pasteur, smoke a joint and head out to search for the weed patch. They never did find it, but their private lexicon — “420 Louie” and later just “420” — would take on a life of its own.

nondescripthandle,

Stoners are such a strong cultural force they took Hitler’s birthday away from the neo nazis. The Columbine shooting couldn’t even reclaim that date. 420 is for stoners, and god bless them for it.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I first heard about 4/20 being a stoner holiday way back when G4 was around and Code Monkies did an episode on it with the main character getting super stoked that it was Hitler’s birthday.

dorron,

I found this out the hard way with my coworker

Come on bro you’ve heard of 420. Just Google it bro it’s a big day for those who know

Hitlers birthday?

Ah… No the other thing

Columbine high school massacre?

Noooo

BP oil disaster?

Ya know what never mind

DragonTypeWyvern,

Okay, they’re definitely fucking with you by the BP thing

9point6,

Big mood.

Fuck Nazis, get high, hate no-one

feedum_sneedson,

dude weed lmao

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Remember the cringy days when people used to pretend it didn’t exist and used “swim”(someone who isn’t me) as an alias like the police would scoop you up if you said you smoked online.

BreakDecks,

SWIM remember that.

TacoNot,

My goldfish had 6 beers and smoked a joint. Will he be okay?

Pistcow,

And a celebration for the guy that killed Hitler.

LustyArgonianMana,
@LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

Portland this year is having $4 pizza slices at various participating pizza locations for 420. Also have already gotten some 30% off deals in Oregon. Imo best bud especially for the price is Oregon so far, although I’ve randomly heard good stuff about Oklahoma too. Hope everyone has a safe 420

Num10ck,

fuck, pizza is $4 a slice now? on sale??

SchmidtGenetics, (edited )

If it’s like an 12-14” pizza cut into 1/8s no issue with that, 16 slices would be pushing it.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This article talks about activism, but the lack of activism is the problem and why I honestly don’t like it. It should be a day of activism, but it’s “let’s all get high and party” instead.

Not only has the drug war incarcerated a huge number of people over a plant that hasn’t even been processed like cocaine or heroin, the medical use is really important. I know because I don’t use it for fun, I use it as a pain modifier for my trigeminal neuralgia and when I don’t have access to it, the pain is much more intense. If 4/20 was about promoting legal use and promoting the medical properties over having a big party, I’d love it, but it isn’t.

If it became “let’s all have a big party” after it is legalized nationally, I’ll join up with the rest of the party team. But until then, I’ll just keep doing my regular activism and ignore any significance of tomorrow as if it’s a special holiday.

And if I’m imbibing on 4/20 at 4:20, it will be because I’m in too much pain, not because I’m celebrating.

(I’m guessing I just pissed a bunch of people off. Oh well.)

ArcaneSlime,

Yeah it’s not like states have been legalizing as a direct result of that activism, or the secondary line who saw those states make money and finally gave in as well!

In my life it has gone from 0/50 in states legal or medical in 1996 to 26/50 states legal and 12/50 states medical 28yr later. Not that the job is done, but you talk like activism is non-existant.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

but you talk like activism is non-existant.

Non-existent? No. Far less than there should be? Absolutely.

ArcaneSlime,

Well then I guess get to it, be the change you want to see in the world.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s exactly what I’m doing.

ArcaneSlime,

I hope you mean like, for real, because posting comments on lemmy is not really activism.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I do mean like, for real.

ArcaneSlime,

Well good.

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

There are a lot of orgs that use it to promote activism and policy

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

There's activism happening around 4/20. My dispensary is getting folks to post their experiences with medical use, and getting them to sign a petition and giving out stickers promoting my state's recreational bill. Plus sometimes it's fun to have fun. Having a single day (and time) to make it a cultural event helps with activism by removing the stigma against it.

I don't celebrate 4/20 because I use it medicinally, but I'm glad it's a thing if only because it makes everybody forget Hitler's birthday.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

but I’m glad it’s a thing if only because it makes everybody forget Hitler’s birthday.

Okay, that’s fair.

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

(I’m guessing I just pissed a bunch of people off. Oh well.)

If someone’s angry that’s on them, not you.

deeferg,

Most activists are active year round, not just one day a year. Give them that one day to unwind and show people why the plant isn’t a harmful substance and remind them why they’re fighting to prove it’s right to be legal.

Plus a lot of countries are legalizing in the west. Not everyone lives in the USA.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s fine. They can unwind. I won’t unwind until I know I won’t be arrested for treating my pain.

whoreticulture,

Kind of a shit take (like all of your takes are). People are allowed to have fun and be activists. Celebration is activism. Think about gay pride. Having a 4/20 party further normalizes cannabis in our culture.

Empricorn,

Kind of a shit take (like all of your takes are).

So, definitely not biased then.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Imagine trying to beef with FlyingSquid…

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I never said people weren’t allowed to.

whoreticulture,

No, but you’ll be weird and judgemental if they do.

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Like you’re being now?

whoreticulture,

Oh, please 🙄 Dude knew their opinion was shitty that’s why they were like “everyone is gonna be mad”. Their opinion is that nobody should party on 4/20 until it’s legalized, which is dumb as hell for the reasons I already described.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That was not my opinion. Maybe don’t speak on my behalf?

whoreticulture,

Maybe don’t post long comments complaining about 4/20 being too much of a party if you don’t want people to think that’s your opinion! Hope that helps!

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The entire post was only about what I personally felt and what I personally should do. I made that absolutely clear in the entire post. I never suggested that anyone else should do anything. At all.

I certainly never suggested that anyone else shouldn’t have a party.

Did you even read my comment to the end or did you just jump in early so you could put words in my mouth?

whoreticulture,

Literally you say it should be a day of activism and not a party, and then you go off on your personal shit.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. That is my opinion of what it should be even though it isn’t. Why am I not allowed to have that opinion?

whoreticulture,

Yes! You’re allowed to be a judgemental asshole, you do you!

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know why you’re so angry or why you keep insulting me.

In a thread about weed of all things.

whoreticulture,

You don’t know why … but you literally acknowledged people would be mad in your post. You’re a disingenuous asshole.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

No, I really don’t know why you’re angry.

Much like I don’t know why you think I care if you have a party.

It sounds like you need a party.

whoreticulture,

I don’t know why you’re lying lol, but I also think you might literally just be dumb

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Please quote me lying.

whoreticulture,

No! Because anyone with reading comprehension can see you pretending like you aren’t shitting on people for having a party! Hope that helps you shitstain

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If you can’t show where I lied or what I lied about, I guess I didn’t lie.

whoreticulture,

Aw lil buddy can’t read

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s very foolish and pointless to write comments to someone who can’t read. So that doesn’t reflect well on you.

whoreticulture,

Helping you learn lil buddy!!

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

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  • whoreticulture,

    Grammar prescriptivism is racist, and tone-policing. You’re pretending you aren’t making the argument that you are making, and get whiny when someone calls you out.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I will?

    whoreticulture,

    You’re the one telling people what 4/20 should be! It’s literally what you are doing! I knew you were an asshole but I didn’t know you were so dumb you’d forget your own words.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m the one telling people what I feel it should be and how I will not celebrate it. I don’t care what you or anyone else does.

    Why are you insulting me? I didn’t insult you.

    whoreticulture,

    If you think it should be another way, then you do care about what other people do. If you don’t care, then why say anything? You’re a disingenuous asshole.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I think it should be another way, but it won’t be, so I don’t care.

    Can you really not carry on a conversation without insulting people? I don’t believe for a minute that you’d hurl insults at a stranger like this if you could look them in the eye.

    whoreticulture,

    Wow you’re just as spineless as always, carry on spouting garbage. I don’t give a fuck if you don’t like being insulted when you try to shit on people for a celebration of a drug/medicine that’s been demonized for a century.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    You mean the thing I don’t want to be demonized?

    AlligatorBlizzard,

    think about gay pride

    I don’t think that’s the argument you think it is. Gay bros and corporations have turned it from activism and throwing bricks at cops into a heavily capitalist party. It pink washes a bunch of shitty corporations - Target sponsors my local corporate pride. Remember last year when they pulled everything that recognizes trans people from their pride collection in order to cave to a handful of terrorists? They’re probably going to drop the T again this year, and they’ve already resumed donations to Republicans. And Ron DeSantis is currently doing a genocide of trans people in Florida, but the Gays only kinda care about that.

    Fuck the party. Throw bricks at pigs.

    Thetimefarm,

    This is a terrible attitude to have, not necessarily the anti corporate stuff, but we absolutely shouldn’t be associating the queer community with random violence. Self and community defense are there own issues as there is a higher rate of violence against LGB and especially T people. Anything you can do to help a trans person leave the state of Florida would be infinitely more useful than throwing a brick at a cop. Anything like that will just be used as ammunition by the people trying to say that trans people, drag queens, etc are somehow dangerous to society. It doesn’t matter to most people in Florida that fascists are orders of magnitude more violent, anything done by a trans person will be amplified to an extreme by right wing media.

    captainlezbian,

    The violence absolutely shouldn’t be happening today but we need to not forget it also. Our rights are forged in a lot of things including absolutely wrecking shit when we’re cracked down on. But it was also a variety of other things including getting political ins, getting conversations with psychologists, making consistent demands, and our moms. Like seriously I think we understate how much moms of all people got us rights. When queer people were hated stories of mothers mourning their children made people give a shit about AIDS.

    But yeah the violence is part of it. But save your brick for a proud boy this June. Don’t worry, you’ll see one.

    Awesomematter,

    Please check out NORML.org

    I’ve been a supporter for quite some time. They’re really trying to make a strong grassroots presence and bring change along with peer reviewed studies.

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