Spot,
@Spot@startrek.website avatar

Far-right influencer Rogan O’Handley went so far as to suggest that if the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, Swift and Kelce would trigger an apocalyptic chain of events that would kill millions. “You MUST defeat the Chiefs,” O’Handley wrote in an X post addressed to the San Francisco 49ers. “If you don’t, Mr. Pfizer and his girlfriend are going to tour the country as ‘world champions’ helping elect Joe Biden WW3 will likely follow in a 2nd Biden term and millions will die. The fate of the free world rests upon your shoulders”

Just wow. Only a tidbit of the crazy they are spouting in this article.

SVcross,
@SVcross@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t want what he is having.

someguy3, (edited )

I don’t get it, do the Chiefs have Swift and Kelce as spokespeople or something? Why would they tour with Chiefs, if that’s what they’re saying.

PlasticExistence,

Your mistake is trying to understand crazy

JJROKCZ,

Travis Kelce plays for the chiefs, Taylor and Travis are dating. Taylor is present at many chiefs games and almost surely will be at the Super Bowl. Taylor is very outspoken about the need to vote, rarely if ever says who to vote for but presses the need to have your voice heard. Republicans and other fascists know that their policies are wildly unpopular, especially with the youth, and so hate the idea of anyone encouraging the youth or anyone else to vote and possibly outnumber the hateful citizens that normally vote for republicans

someguy3,

Had to look up this Kelce fellow. He has earrings? Oh noooo (for right wingers).

lemmylommy,

If the guy is endorsing a team from San Francisco, the capital of libruls and the gay, he must be part of the conspiracy.

pachrist,

Absolutely. If anyone is going to stop socialism, Jewish space lasers, and the San Francisco 49ers, it’s a guy from Kansas with a mustache and his blonde country singer girlfriend.

Really feels like conservatives picked the wrong side here?

Riccosuave,
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar
PrincessLeiasCat,

millions will die

Didn’t seem to care about that too much during Covid, not sure why it’s a problem for him now.

Sabata11792,
Sabata11792 avatar

Trump sycophant Laura Loomer wrote on X that “the Democrats’ Taylor Swift election interference psyop is happening in the open… They are going to use Taylor Swift as the poster child for their pro-abortion GOTV Campaign.”

This shit sounds like deepfried AI hallucinations, but I know people are actually that dumb.

Drunemeton,
@Drunemeton@lemmy.world avatar

Remember every accusation is a confession…

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

And they’ll somehow always find ways to bring you to a loss for words even when you expect the absolutely deepest level of stupidity and craziness you can imagine. These past handful of years have just been a constant shattering of expectations of how dumb and fucked up people manage to be. And 90% of it is coming from right-wing fanatics.

Sabata11792,
Sabata11792 avatar

Normal people are not equipped for the power of the internet.

EmergMemeHologram,

I don’t get it.

Why would the cabal, the super influential group secretly controlling all our actions, need a football team to win the superbowl to defeat them, and why would they, in all their Machiavellian wisdom, not have considered the 50% chance event that their football team loses?

Why would they pick Biden for another term then start WW3? Why not just start it now if that’s what they want and he’s already their puppet? They’ve had 3 years and there’s certainly enough political tinder in the world to start a fire.

None of this makes any coherent sense.

EmergMemeHologram,

You know what, I’ve thought about this some more and the reasoning is clear.

If the 49ers win, they’ll inadvertantly resurrect Harvey Milk, who will kill JFK (who faked his own death and has been lying in wait), who will then be unable to reclaim the last months of his presidency (his term was never officially ended you know) which he planned to use to restore Donald Trump to power. Harvey Milk will then become president and make heterosexuality illegal and force us to live in 15 minute neighborhoods.

That must be their angle! They win either way!

sangriaferret,

Nailed it

prowess2956,

Excuse my ignorance, but is there something going around about 15-minute neighborhoods? Someone pretty kooky mentioned something about that to me just today (in relation to Chattanooga, I think, but I didn't exactly follow the crazy train of thought). Something about how they're monitoring everyone and they can't take more than 100 trips outside that zone or something. I know it's all nonsense but there's also usually some tie back into reality.

Spot,
@Spot@startrek.website avatar

The abilities of some to twist and misconstrue almost everything is almost impressive. Anytime anything might be helpful to society, they come up with conspiracies and ways it must be for evil.

I don’t have, and never planned on having, any kids but, I always vote for and push for education. It is scary what large numbers of ignorant people can accomplish.

frezik,

This is how things work now. Every idea we come up with to marginally improve society will be met with completely invented bullshit.

EmergMemeHologram,

Sadly yes, there are a bunch of conspiracy theories around them.

captainlezbian,

Yeah the conspiratorial right claims they’re a way to trap people into restricted zones 15 minutes across

Spot,
@Spot@startrek.website avatar

I found this USA Today www.usatoday.com/story/news/…/11593351002/

From a snippet:

Moreno said the posts are inaccurate and misconstrue the nature of the urban planning framework.

“The 15-minute city is the opposite of lockdown,” Moreno said. “The 15-minute city is an open and connected city, which balances the differences in access to services.”

The framework does not limit residents’ ability to leave their neighborhoods or access services in other areas of the city.

“All citizens are free to go where they want," Moreno said. "There are no constraints.”

prowess2956,

Thank you for this! I figured it was the usual mix of 1) a term based in reality, 2) a dash of sci-fi / dystopian tale, and 3) a whole ton of crazy.

HonkTonkWoman,

There’s one key piece you’re missing, Joe Montana is actually resurrected Harvey Milk & has been this whole time.

This plan began back when Joe was winning Super Bowls, but Steve Young was an unexpected hiccup. The queer stopped spreading as fast when Joe got traded.

This Superbowl has been chosen specifically because Montana played for both the Chiefs & the 49ers, & because Joe Montana is also Taylor Swift.

They were going to do it 4 years ago, but Joe was still Arianna Grande back then.

It’ll all make sense when Andy Reid eats Travis Kelce during halftime.

Chuymatt,

Unfortunately, this is still tracking easier than whatever that word salad was up above.

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Because they need people not to know until all the stars are aligned and then nobody can stop it anymore! Unless some hero changes the course of history by telling everyone and saves the world!

dejected_warp_core,

$0.02:

Optimistically: they’re just crazy. Some have access to a louder bullhorn than others, but it’s just garden variety insanity.

Pessimistically: someone has a huge pile of cash riding on the outcome of the game, and is making a Hail Mary pass of their own to sway the outcome.

InvaderDJ,

It’s because so much conspiracy theory requires the conspirators to be simultaneously all powerful but hilariously weak and stupid. And all their plans have to be announced and hinted at through pop culture and in ways that are suspiciously similar to popular movies and TV shows as remembered by people with no media literacy.

brbposting,

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/efda14fb-765b-42d6-9ecd-05498fe1fb58.jpeg

Brilliantly coded reference to Nicki Minaj (“it’s the butt have culture people“), “rapper” and illuminatiarian with 5G cheek implants controlling society via the minds of our youth. Didn’t expect to be so enlightened in this thread.

ZeroTemp,

This is my response to all conspiracy theories. If this deep state cabal is so powerful, and has access to unlimited resources to achieve their agenda, wouldn’t it be easier to just declare martial law and send the deep state army in to drag us all into the streets, point a gun at our heads and say comply or die? Why the theatrics? Is the deep state the Joker? Why not just shoot Batman in the head and be done with it?

superduperenigma,

“You MUST defeat the Chiefs,” O’Handley wrote in an X post addressed to the San Francisco 49ers. “If you don’t, Mr. Pfizer and his girlfriend are going to tour the country as ‘world champions’ helping elect Joe Biden WW3 will likely follow in a 2nd Biden term and millions will die. The fate of the free world rests upon your shoulders”

But hey, no pressure or anything guys.

Buddahriffic,

Why are there people so convinced that football, or the outcome of any sporting event, matters at all? Like I know that this is just some media manipulators trying to stir people up, but I also fully believe that they will succeed and that the number of people who will find this argument compelling will be depressing (though who knows, maybe humanity will have a pleasant surprise).

emergencyfood,

Why are there people so convinced that football, or the outcome of any sporting event, matters at all?

The World Cup defeat that lost an election

fsxylo,

Main character syndrome. They all think they’re God’s chosen, but they all also secretly believe that they are God’s chosen-er

slurpeesoforion,

It reads like someone parodying schizophrenia.

Pratai,

My god those cowards will cry about everything.

UltraMagnus0001,

Vivek Ramaswamy, this mutha fucka down the rabbit hole. He’s paranoid AF

gravitas_deficiency,

Lmao what the actual fuck 🤣

ZeroCool,

Taylor Swift stole my pic-a-nic basket!

betterdeadthanreddit,

Somebody’s playing with the cursed Mad Libs booklet again.

ouRKaoS,

Japan gets the Death Note, America gets the Conspiracy Mad Lib…

That seems fair.

jballs,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

My right wing neighbor dropped this conspiracy on me a few months ago, when Kelce and Swift just started dating. His thought was that Kelce had a COVID vaccine commercial, and the government was using him and Swift to reach a broader population of little girls to brainwash them into getting the vaccine for the “fake disease”.

I haven’t followed up with him on it, but now that the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl, I’m sure he’s doubling down on his crazy conspiracy theory. I guess I shouldn’t say “his” theory. I didn’t realize it at the time, because I don’t mainline Fox News and News Max, but I guess this must have been something my neighbor heard on some crazy show at some point.

foofyfoofoo,

Imagine your favorite thing in the world - sweaty men trying to push a handegg up and down a field - being infiltrated and rigged so even that is no longer sacred for your Sunday winter ritual. Fucking epic.

FordBeeblebrox,

As a Niners fan…I fully expect Taylor swift to win

Kittle does his thing, Greenlaw and Bosa too.

InternetUser2012,

Maybe tell the right wingers that inhaling oxygen is socialism and supported by Biden and the Democrats.

That could solve all of our problems.

CurlyMoustache,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

I hear some republican called Cohaagen is trying to make that claim

kandoh,

Conservatives believe whatever feels good for them to believe at that exact moment. The only evidence they need that a white football player dating a white pop star is a psyop is the cortisol their brain gave them when they came up with the idea.

gardylou,

Lost their fucking minds.

Lianodel,

Research suggests, on a psychological level, conspiracist ideation—belief in conspiracy theories—can be harmful or pathological, and is highly correlated with psychological projection, as well as with paranoia, which is predicted by the degree of a person’s Machiavellianism.

wiki

Grimy,

I think it’s a bit dangerous to label all conspiracy theorists as nuts.

Epstein didn’t kill himself is a conspiracy theory and so was an elite pedo ring before he was arrested. Trump taking money from the Russian and Saudies is a conspiracy theory.

This current one is silly but not because all conspiracies are.

Lianodel, (edited )

I never said that, to be fair.

Of course there are conspiracies. People in power want to stay in power, and they’ll do shady things to get what they want.

That’s not the same as conspiracist ideation, which is a tendency to believe in conspiracy theories. Even as the article I quoted said, it can be harmful or pathological, but isn’t necessarily. It’s just when it happens to an extreme level. There’s a difference between rational fears and phobias; intrusive thoughts are normal, but can be frequent, uncontrollable, and distressing; conspiracies can be true, but then there’s buck wild nonsense like Q, “Cultural Marxism,” and this shit about the Superbowl. It’s not recognizing conspiracies when presented with evidence, it’s spinning conspiracy theories out of nothing, and viewing everything as part of a master plot, even if it doesn’t make any goddamn sense.

nomous,

It used to be a laugh, it was fun to play what-if and talk about aliens and Bilderberg meetings. Obviously the rich and powerful are plotting to run the world right? Art Bell, the X-Files, it was all so much fun. At some point, and I’m not really sure when, it went completely off the rails though. It’s not fun anymore.

postmateDumbass,

conspiracy theories

The term “conspiracy theory” is itself the subject of a conspiracy theory, which posits that the term was popularized by the CIA in order to discredit conspiratorial believers, particularly critics of the Warren Commission, by making them a target of ridicule.[55] In his 2013 book Conspiracy Theory in America, political scientist Lance deHaven-Smith wrote that the term entered everyday language in the United States after 1964, the year in which the Warren Commission published its findings on the Kennedy assassination, with The New York Times running five stories that year using the term.[56]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

TrueStoryBob,

The joke is on them… the game is definitely rigged, she’s paid off the NFL so that she can announce she’s running for president on an independent ticket against Trump and Biden.

BlackPenguins,

Sadly, that could make Trump win. Swift stealing the younger voters from Biden. No trump supporters would waver for some young singer so the vote would split.

BobGnarley,

I’m just waiting for it all to devolve into a kind of nonsense where they all go crazy and do a suicide pact or some shit like the Heavens Gate cult. It can’t be far behind with the delusions they spit out day after day.

theterrasque,

They had a trial run with bleach already

Furbag,

I’m sure there will be a convenient excuse lined up if the Chiefs don’t win.

Cheesus,

It’s those damn liberals in San Francisco ruining it

kromem,

“We changed the outcome by having discovered it! That’ll show them!”

_sideffect,

So then why don’t they bet on it and make tons of cash?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What, and take time out of their busy outrage schedule?

Aabbcc,

Because there’s a chance trump and the good guys can defeat the forces of evil and un-rig the SuperBowl

Omgpwnies,

But only if you send them a cheque for your entire life savings

beardown,

They probably will bet on it.

How does that dispute their underlying point?

Also, I very much doubt that NFL game fixing is so hard to believe. The United States has a strong history of game fixing in all of its nationally popular athletic leagues. From boxing to baseball. (Say it ain’t so, Joe)

So we should not be surprised at the possibility that the NFL would do the same thing, particularly after happily integrating gambling into their entire product at an unprecedented rate over the past 5 years.

…wikipedia.org/…/List_of_match-fixing_incidents

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal

Regardless, this is legitimately the most important presidential election in US history. Trump’s victory would destroy the United States. Given that, it would be malpractice for the American and Western intelligence agencies not to utilize the most watched 3.5 hours of 2024 American television to diminish Trump and boost his opponents.

I hope that Taylor Swift/The Chiefs are a psychological operation of our intelligence agencies. Our agencies need to be doing things like that to ensure Trump loses. Because if he wins then The West will end. And I have to live here in The West, so I would prefer that it didn’t end.

tmyakal,

Wait, so you’re hoping that the American government is covertly manipulating the roughly 1 in 3 Americans who watch the Superbowl expressly to retain the incumbents power because it means we’d avoid a fascist autocracy?

beardown,

Yes, because the alternative would be even worse

I fully agree that our current system is incredibly broken though. It’s just that Trump, and the Heritage Foundations Project 2025, etc, would make things drastically worse than they already are

We aren’t a meaningfully “free” country, at least not by any charitable definition. But that doesn’t mean we can’t get worse. We can, and we will if Trump wins

miak,

But if you become a monster just so you can destroy a monster, have you really accomplished anything worthwhile?

beardown,

Depends how bad the other monster was, I suppose.

Becoming Tony Soprano as a means of stopping Sauron, for instance, would likely be worth it.

Here, the combined intelligence agencies of the West appear to think that Trump is an existential threat to Western civilization. If they’re correct about that then I guess that justifies rigging the Super Bowl. Especially when you consider that there are significantly worse things (Gaza Genocide) going on right now. To say nothing of the bad things that they/we did in the past

nomous,

I just want the fascists on my side.

gardylou,

That is possible for some game some where to be corrupted at some time isn’t evidence that it is easy to rig NFL games. Much more likely an individual player is compromised in a way that affects game integrity (or at least betting fairness) than nonsense whole cloth rigging of the game.

beardown,

The officiating has been historically horrific this year. Multiple objectively wrong calls have been made or have been missed that have had game altering implications.

Players themselves don’t need to be on the take. The officiating is all that needs to be altered to ensure games reach the desired outcome. And the NFLs officiating process is about as untransparent as it gets

At minimum, the league needs to be investigated for fixing games to enrich itself and its partners. But maybe a nonprosecution agreement was reached between the nfl and federal government wherein the nfl agreed to allow Taylor Swift and others to be used in certain ways to assist Biden and diminish Trump. If I was the Western Intelligence State that’s exactly what I’d do - blackmail the most watched product in the United States into cooperating to protect the country from Trump.

This is more important than “the integrity of the NFL.” This is about preventing the United States from being utterly dismantled by our adversaries, and utilizing any means necessary to achieve that result

gardylou,

Lol

reverendsteveii,

Curses! Foiled again!

lightnsfw,

Why would the Superbowl need to be rigged for her to do this? Everything the woman does is already reported and televised everywhere.

beardown,

The theory is that it needs to be rigged so that the Chiefs are in the super bowl because she is linked to Chiefs player Travis Kelce. So Kelce playing in the Super Bowl gives her a very plausible reason for being there and for being heavily featured with him

Pulptastic,

Haven’t the chiefs been in 3 of the last 4 SBs? They’re a strong team, it’s not much of a surprise.

beardown,

They’re genuinely not a strong team this year. They have no passcatchers outside of Kelce and their rb is a 7th rounder. Obviously Mahomes is good, but that’s about it. They’re the weakest they’ve been since this dynasty began, which is partially because they’ve had weak draft picks from all of their recent success.

So it strains credulity a bit that they’re in the super bowl again given this team. San Francisco should destroy them without much of an issue - we’ll see if that’s in the script though

lightnsfw,

I get that. What I’m saying is it doesn’t matter. She’s got media attention 24/7 if she wants to say something. Anyone who would be swayed by her is already listening.

beardown, (edited )

But it would look weird if she was there and heavily featured and the Chiefs weren’t playing. This result makes it look much more “natural” which makes it easier for the public to accept and not question (“She’s his gf, of course she’s there! And if she just happened to endorse Biden/diminish Trump at or after being heavily featured on the most watched tv program of the year by far then that’s just a coincidence!”)

The point is that this introduces her to a mainstream American audience in the most “natural” way possible. Which then allows her to persuade the public throughout the rest of the year because we all will feel like we already “know” her. Plenty of people already “know” her, of course. But we don’t need to reach those people. We need to reach the undecided and out of touch Americans in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Arizona - and we do that by using the Super Bowl as a political branding opportunity with our cleancut and All-American characters of Taylor Swift and her classy bf Travis Kelce.

It’s pretty simple marketing/branding/persuasion. Not even the most complicated marketing effort that she herself has been involved in.

lightnsfw,

But they don’t need the super bowl for that. She could go outside wearing a Biden t-shirt and it’d be plastered all over everyone’s screens in 20 minutes. Going to the effort of rigging the Superbowl to get Taylor Swift in front of people is just unnecessary. The work is already done for you.

beardown,

The people you’re trying to reach are the people who would never hear about her wearing a shirt like that.

You need uneducated swing voters in swing states. Aka, people who perpetually have their head in the sand. Using the Super Bowl is one of the only ways to reach those people and is one of the only remaining artifacts of the monoculture

lightnsfw,

Why would they give a shit about Taylor Swift’s opinion if they’re not already aware of her?

beardown, (edited )

Why do people currently give a shit about Taylor Swift’s opinion if they used to be unaware of her?

The goal is the spread her influence and encourage more Americans to follow her. Particularly women, who are more likely to support Swift and Democrats anyway

I don’t think any of this, if true, is bad btw. It’s how “free and fair” elections have always worked in the United States, or at least for the past 60 years. And it’s worth it if it means Trump does not win

Doesn’t mean we should pretend that our government doesn’t regularly do things like this though

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

lightnsfw,

Why do people currently give a shit about Taylor Swift’s opinion if they used to be unaware of her?

Because they’re morons? She’s a manufactured celebrity. Her (or any other celebrity) opinion on politics should mean nothing to anyone.

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