Long time Bitwarden user. Never been steered wrong. One of the few apps that I pay for premium not because I need the extra features, but because I value it enough to support the devs financially
Because we only know what the client does, and have no clue on the server side of things, allowing Proton to do any manipulations with the data. Not ideal when you consider it for password storage.
Because non-obvious backdoors can be added to the client that break or circumvent encryption (looking at you, xz), stealing all of your passwords, and no one will be able to raise the alarm just by looking at the server code.
Open-source backend allows to generally avoid this situation, while also potentially rendering you able to self-host if you’re paranoid.
This was a real concern with MEGA back in the day (after Kim said you should no longer trust them) and a big reason why I prefer to use standalone client apps that I can control the source of.
I tried Google Drive, and also Seafile. the catch is that it needs to sync the files to your phones local file system. You could also do Next cloud or use Folder sync. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.tacit.an…
Problem is, i want to exclude third parties. I’d prefer a direct heavily encrypted connection directly to my server. Definitely not a cloud somewhere, especially not google & co.
Nextcloud is way too blown up and vulnerable for me. I really only need file-synching. Got servers working for the other stuff like caldav.
ideallyi’d use Unison sync inside termux, but it hasnt been packaged and i dont know the first thing about ocaml, so it’d be hard for me to make the needed adjustments to package it.
I’m tech illiterate and been using Bitwarden for 3 years (premium), and honestly it doesn’t work very well on Android. Every time I need to enter a password, it’s completely hit-or-miss with Bitwarden. Half of the time it doesn’t even pop up. I’m using Xiaomi phone and tablet with stock rom (global version).
In terms of “Free version”, what would be better? What would you recommend if I were to use one as Premium (daily use) and the other as Free (for backup purpose)?
Wow thanks, I have no idea. That’s great news. I’ll definitely wait for the native app. But in the meantime I’ll try out Proton as a “backup” just in case something bad happens to Bitwarden or my personal vault.
Sometimes you have to long press on the password box and bitwarden might appear or a little “autofill” option may appear along in the 3 vertical dots pop up. Most of the time, Bitwarden auto pops up for me.
I feel like if you’re already using Bitwarden and you’re talking to us on Lemmy, you’re not tech illiterate.
As a mobile developer I can tell you that working with Android keyboards has been a giant fucking pain in ass since inception to today.
While I can’t speak specifically to why they both seem to have this problem, I wouldn’t be surprised if the OS is part of the problem.
I wouldn’t be shocked that if someone had it working consistently, it might be because of the most heinous hacks, or private greylisted APIs or some other nonsense.
They need to focus on providing quality services instead of quantity. The ProtonMail webmail is a shame: multiple selection lost if you click just outside the checkbox because that will open the email, emails that just after have been deketed reappear in the inbox and don’t get me started on the search 🤢!
P.s. I’ve double commented because I’ve just realized that I’ve written the other comment in Italian 😆, sorry.
the password manager kinda sucks too. credit cards are in a category that you have to delete the name of the site you’re visiting in order to see. sometimes I question why I’m paying for the thing. lastpass was way better 10 years ago.
I mean, it is as trustworthy as any for-profit company can be. KeePass is great if you have the technical knowledge and time required to set up and manage it properly.
both of them you download and use, it requires the smae amount of technical knowledge. in fact you could argue, that proton pass takes more technical expertise since you need to set up a account online first.
I’m not really sure what happens if Proton bans your account for any reason but Proton Pass does have offline access. I assume if you turn off internet access, you can still get all your passwords.
Bitwarden has a really nice CLI that lets you backup your vault easily. I personally run bw export --format json --raw every few week so if for some reason I lose the “cloud” access, I can still migrate to self hosted or a different password manager. (Or you may choose to self-host to begin with)
The danger with self hosting is that police can always steal everything from you.
Felt weird hearing story of my ex that the german customs office just stole their Laptop and Phone. She couldn’t show me pictures and she hadn’t any backups or smth.
I am afraid this could happen to me too when they suspect something but are wrong at the end. At the entire time I will not have access to my drives of my server and maybe they accidentally break them. Not sure if they will believe me that its a raid 1, I can imagine them stealing everything without questioning.
I wonder how to comfortable sync a 2TB drive and take it with you.
Additionally. I dont do backups. I only sync devices. Except for Phone pictures which are uploaded and deleted from the phone. I think there should be a second device that keeps data
I wonder how I should design backups as large as 2TB. I would love to have something outside of my Home that does backups, but doing this remotely seems overkill.
But you are giving me the potential to think about it and redesign my insecure data that may dissappear someday.
It all depends on how much you treasure that 2TB of data. If you cannot afford to lose it, then you don't really have any other option. All I'm saying is that self-hosting and backups go hand in hand. Self-hosting without backups is just asking for trouble. But what you are talking about sounds more like 2TB of old photos, that's not really self-hosting. Just get a second 2TB drive and copy it there. This thread started with talks about password managers and their backups - those aren't 2TB.
Hanno iniziato da un po’ di tempo a fornire troppi servizi, dovrebbero focalizzarsi di più a sistemare quelli che hanno. La webmail di Protonmail è un abominio: perdita di selezione multipla aprendo un’email, email che ricompaiono subito dopo averle cancellate, ricerca…stendiamo un velo pietoso!
So I installed this and gave it a whirl. I was hoping it would work like the proprietary accounts in Linux where it would integrate into the OS but alas, it appears it’s just a folder sync.
Aside from that I run into the same limitations I run into in the browser where file transfers just fail…
Yeeeeees. If you’re orienting your company as the privacy-alternative it’d be great to emphasize support for the main privacy-oriented OS. I get that developers don’t grow on trees, but this seems like a pretty crucial feature that should be prioritized.
I mean, I recently switched to Proton knowing what I was getting into, but I’d really like to see this happen soon.
I was just about to write this… Proton is cool, but I only use mail from them. All my other services are independent from each other, and soon I will be self hosting most of them.
I’m switching from privatevpn to protonvpn just for the port forwarding with wireguard within a terminal, no stupid GUI app. Quite pleased with the service, they do VPN well.
I don’t think protonpass has auto fill even on browser extension.
Or maybe I’m too stupid to figure it out. I ran side by side against bitwarden which I love. Could not figure out a way that didn’t make me manually c/p the creds.
Weren’t they planning to change it from Microsoft’s Android UI, it’s just taking a while, as they have to rebuilt it from scratch? I thought I saw something about that.
Bitwarden is excellent but i have a few nitpicks on Android.
I wish I could change the “Username” field to “Email address” because it kind of annoys me having email addresses under usernames. I’d also like to add things to favourites or folders without having to go into edit mode on every entry individually. Same with adding notes. The app has trouble following the system theme and doesn’t always autofill reliably for me, meaning I sometimes have to go into the app and copy/paste my passwords manually.
Other than that, the UI is just a bit ugly compared to some other password managers,
Try Keyguard, it is open source and much nicer than the regular Bitwarden app. Do not use the version from the Play Store though, get it directly from Github.
Looks like everything is essentially in the same spot UI wise, but with a native application that hopefully gets moving a lot faster.
I’ve noticed that currently on Bitwarden, for auto fill it takes 6-7 seconds just to get authenticated with fingerprint and fill in the username and password field. That should hopefully be down to like 2 or 3 seconds.
Automatically updating entries with app or URL information if they didn’t match and you had to manually search for them. You have to copy the URL, leave the browser, open the app, search for the entry again, and manually add the URL in the current version.
Better defaults in the app like which group you log in to or which collection new entries are added to. Keeping all your entries added to a shared collection is a constant chore right now.
Better keyboard functionality. It’s basically impossible to navigate with a keyboard on PC right now. Keepass has a global auto type hotkey which made it so you hardly even had to open the app.
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