DeSantis says he would eliminate four federal agencies if elected president

Florida's Republican governor said he would seek to abolish the departments of Education, Commerce and Energy, as well as the IRS.

"If Congress will work with me on doing that, we'll be able to reduce the size and scope of government," he added. "If Congress won't go that far, I'm going to use those agencies to push back against woke ideology and against the leftism that we see creeping into all institutions of American life."

jerome,
jerome avatar

DeSantis is telling everyone that he's going to destroy the United States, and you're all just sitting there.

Briguy24,

He's polling a distant 2nd to trump believe it or not. Twice impeached, twice indicted traitorous trump is polling highest among R in their primary.

Bucket_of_Truth,

He's polling worse than fucking RFK jr, he stands no chance. YoUr'Re AlL JuSt SiTtInG tHeRe! We're more than a year away from the general election, which he will never make it to because there are months of primaries before where Trump will assuredly win.

TWeaK,

Most likely, but which of the two will still be ready for it in 2028?

sendingmath,
sendingmath avatar

we are not just sitting here, we're posting it to kbin!

borkcorkedforks,

Relax, we're doing a sit in.

solidgrue,
@solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

I'm not gonna vote for him. He's not even a candidate yet. What should I be doing?

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

Laughing at Desantis’ ignorance or crying because republican voters are just as ignorant and eat that shit up.

Or my favorite… alternating between the two

BurnTheRight,

Training and prepping. Historically, there's only been one way to stop fascist conservatism, and it's not something we are allowed to talk openly about until we're doing it.

skogens_ro,

Did the 6th of January insurrectionists do the right thing, given they believed they were fighting against an authoritarian government? Or should they have accepted the result of the democratic process even though they disagreed with it?

Luke-Byrne297,

So when Hitler got voted in, the moral choice was to respect the democratic process and the completely legal murder of 12 million people. Got it

skogens_ro,

I agree in the event of a genocidal government, you throw them out, but obviously there needs to be a very high bar and a lot of safeguards to prevent partisan misuse. A losing Republican could claim a winning Democrat wants to conduct a genocide against unborn babies or something and the Jan6 insurrectionists would feel they were justified because of it.

What are the most damning pieces of evidence that Desantis will conduct a genocide if elected?

Should the 2016 election result have been overturned?

sectorfour,
sectorfour avatar

Oh no. Is this the audience here?

EtherealMongrel,

Sorry if you wanted a fascist safe space, maybe try twitter,

sectorfour,
sectorfour avatar

lol

3425asdfqwer4,

Making sure that all of the subhuman republicans around you are as uncomfortable as humanly possible. They live among us and far too many people tolerate them.

bobs_monkey,

Not much can be done as of yet. The election season will really kick off in January, and short of hiring a hit squad, marching around with signs and getting screamed at/assaulted by rednecks doesn't really seem too effective. What would you propose?

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

Do the Florida sewer and septic sucking service workers have a union? Might be able to convince them to use their, ah “waste” from yet another school’s clogged septic tanks to, uh “fertilize” desantis’ yard.

Cinner,

I love comments like this for the blatant lack of self-awareness that you're doing exactly what everyone else is.

While somehow finding a way to feel like you're better than.

st3ph3n,
st3ph3n avatar

Fuck this fascist turd.

solidgrue,
@solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

Wow. Commerce runs the weather satellites and Energy oversee nukes. Good luck with that.

iLikeGoats,
iLikeGoats avatar

Not to mention Commerce regulates international trade and enforces sanctions. Most Federal agencies do far more than most people realize.

herzberd,
herzberd avatar

reminds me of reagan wanting to give DoE the axe until he figured out they have the nukes lol

HotDogFingies,
HotDogFingies avatar

I hate that man

PhoenixRising,

Rick Perry too. Then Trump made him the secretary of energy, lol.

Midnitte,
Midnitte avatar

I wonder if you asked him which departments oversee that if he wouldn't be able to answer, akin to Rick Perry forgetting what departments he would get rid of...

hiyaaaaa23,

Im too tired to give a witty comeback.

DeSantis is a fascist bitch

assclapcalamity,

same. boring af. heard about some weird business. anti books is what i heard. Sorry, i am pro books.

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

I’m definitely pro library. Public libraries are awesome.

Ours has a living- seed bank of heirloom veggies, 3d printers, they do community events- including a Mongolian acrobatic circus (Friday-),sewing/quilting stuff. Oh and they have a lot of books … and that’s just off the top of my head.

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

"If Congress won't go that far, I'm going to use those agencies to push back against woke ideology and against the leftism that we see creeping into all institutions of American life."

He keep saying shit like this and just once I would like him to explain HOW. WHAT POLICY? What, Ron, will you do that will "push back against leftism"? Tell me what you plan to enact.

Invalid,

It's a threat. He is saying if congress does not get rid of federal agencies he is going to use Executive Orders to try to force policy he knows will piss people off. I don't think the policy really matters at this point.

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

It does though. Policy should be the only thing that matters. We need to force our politicians to talk about their actual plans, the actions they will actually take, the policies they will enforce.

Invalid,

Let me rephrase. He is saying "Get rid of these agencies or I'm going to fuck you with all of the power they give me."

My point is that the details of how he fucks you is not as important as the fact that he is going to.

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

We fundamentally disagree my friend. I know what you're saying and I disagree. The how is important. I want him, and all politicians, to be pressed on telling Americans how they're going to do these things. Tell Americans in no uncertain terms how their policies will impact them.

Invalid,

I want him, and all politicians, to be pressed on telling Americans how they're going to do these things. Tell Americans in no uncertain terms how their policies will impact them.

I 100% agree with you there.

I'm just concerned about getting distracted by the "or else" part of his statement when his real intention is getting rid of the agencies.

wagesj45,
wagesj45 avatar

HOW. WHAT POLICY? What, Ron, will you do that will "push back against leftism"?

Being mean to trans and gay people. That's the policy.

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

But that's my point. I want him to say that. I want him to explain his actual policy in uncoded terms.

mrbubblesort,
mrbubblesort avatar

"Throw dem gays into the nuklear reactor"

Ron DeSantis probably

exohuman,
exohuman avatar

Don’t forget black people. He was busy scrubbing away black history in Florida.

pizza_rolls,
pizza_rolls avatar

The government having money to operate is A WOKE LIBERAL AGENDA!!!

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Infrastructure spending? THAT’S A REAL LIBRUL IDEA YOU HAVE THERE. THEM BRIDGES SHOULD PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THE BOOTSTRAPS AND PAY FOR THEIR OWN REPAIRS.

Liontigerwings,

Irs. Married filing jointly is only available for male female couples.

Education is an easy one because we already saw what he wants to do with floridas system. Basically erase history and ban books.

ZILtoid1991,
ZILtoid1991 avatar

I have a guess he also wants to copy Hungary's education system, which is not only barely functioning due to a total lack of replenishment of retired teachers, but also horribly whitewash Hungarian history.

Think the "states rights" thing was bad? Get ready to the "we never did X, yet we got punished for it" method of teaching history.

billiam0202,

If Republicans cared about policy, Hillary Clinton would have won 2016 in a landslide.

This is just the same shit Trump pulled. Scream about culture war "issues" and claim you're going to solve societal ills without detailing how. Promising you're going to fix people's problems by blaming the bureaucracy or minority communities is easy, coming up with solutions that actually work is hard (and boring to boot).

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

Ron DeSantis is a fascist.

Madison_rogue,
Madison_rogue avatar

OMFG what a fucking bozo. So what he's proposing (among other very dumb things...literally) is an energy infrastructure like Texas. That'll go over real well.

13zero,

It’s worse than that. The DoE’s main job is overseeing nuclear materials (not just nuclear power plants, but the entire nuclear weapon stockpile).

Talaraine,
Talaraine avatar

Texas would try to convince the average resident that 95 degrees in your house IS room temperature if they could get away with it.

goryramsy,

"But if my room is that temperature, therefore that temperature is room temperature!"

edit: fixed markup

Cinner,

Funny enough I thought that's what room temperature was until I looked it up just now.

Colloquially, room temperature is a range of air temperatures that most people prefer for indoor settings. It feels comfortable to a person when they are wearing typical indoor clothing. Human comfort can extend beyond this range depending on humidity, air circulation and other factors. Food or beverages may be served at room temperature, meaning neither heated nor cooled.

Simplyvelo,

Do I wish for a sane republicans or not. Doesn’t matter because one doesn’t seem to exist.

Flaky_Fish69,
Flaky_Fish69 avatar

Never thought I’d miss McCain. At least he paid attention to reasoned arguments and tried a few himself.

mrbubblesort,
mrbubblesort avatar

Sane Republican is an oxymoron

demvoter,
demvoter avatar

This guy is flailing, lmao.

gentleman,

@kuontom During Rick Perry's short-lived presidential run, he said he wanted to eliminate 3 agencies but then forgot which ones they were. This is on the same level of stupidity

HandsHurtLoL,

I was about to comment this as well. On top of that, I believe the Dept of Energy was one of the agencies he wanted to abolish and then ... Trump appointed him Sec of Energy! Womp womp

gentleman,

@HandsHurtLoL Yes that is right. Perry was appointed to DOE, the agency he wanted to abolish. Tillerson was installed at State so that he could dismantle it, which he did. All part of the Bannon "burn it down" theory of Government

@kuontom

YolkBrushWork402,
YolkBrushWork402 avatar

That is one way to destroy the United States

fidodo,

I don't understand the end game here. I understand corporations trying to get more control, but you have less money and power if you're just ruling over ashes.

RedChiliPepper85,

Nothing says "Small government" like banning drag shows, banning books, banning certain subjects from being taught in college (CRT and black history), telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies, going after Disney because they opposed your anti gay bills, etc....

assclapcalamity,

this anti-IRS position is not going away. my mom hates the IRS and feels victimized, (because she hasn't figured out her taxes)

The IRS owes my mom and most broke people a simple accounting,

BaroqueInMind,
BaroqueInMind avatar

It's too bad the Republicans keep voting to take away the IRS budget to allow them to pay your mom. Oh well, Republicans are essentially telling her and people that are owed money to go fuck themselves.

assclapcalamity,

preachin to the choir, friend

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

Or taking lobbying money from companies like HR Block to prevent changes to how taxes are done - ie, like a lot of the rest of the world where they send you a "does this look right?" report and you tick yes or no.

assclapcalamity,

paying HR Block for anything is like buying crap in a game.

HotDogFingies,
HotDogFingies avatar

But... But... I want the skin with the cool spikes on it :(

Madison_rogue,
Madison_rogue avatar

IIRC it's H&R Block and TurboTax that have given tons of cash to politicians to ensure the tax code is complicated, and that e-filing remains in their hands.

I remember there used to be a day where you could e-file 1040 long forms through the IRS without TurboTax or H&R Block. That ship sailed over 20 years ago.

Deleted,

No they cut back the IRS so the can't put resources into complicated audits on rich people.

kuontom,
kuontom avatar

Man's really moving to Trump's right

WHYAREWEALLCAPS,

He's trying to out Trump Trump. You could say he's trumping Trump. All in hopes he can steal away enough wacko votes to win.

lunar_parking,
lunar_parking avatar

But he can't, and he won't be able to. There is only one Donald Trump and you can't easily replicate his appeal.

goryramsy,

He... does know what the IRS is, right? The way the federal government gets money. What, is he going to expect the treasury to print more money?

IggyTheSmidge,

My guess (assuming he has any sort of plan at all)? Tax farming, Roman style.

Private tax collection companies bid for government contracts based on how much money they think they can extract from the populace. Any amount they manage to collect above that they keep as profit.

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