Maeve,

Can SCOTUS mess this up?

gregorum,

Take that, Florida!

bouldering_barista,

This is good news! Trans students will just be using the bathroom, cisgender students are the ones that may be abusing this with negative intentions.

Stay kind, everyone!

aquielias,

taking one side of the population rights to give it to another part of the population how is this progress?

Drusas,

This doesn't take anyone's rights away.

Uranium3006,
Uranium3006 avatar

What the fuck are you talking about?

JaymesRS,

“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”

Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Granting rights to one group doesn’t automatically remove rights from another.

See gay marriage. Allowing one group of people to have the full rights of marriage doesn’t block those same rights from anyone else.

All it means is everyone deserves to be treated like human beings.

HonoraryMancunian,

Granting rights to one group doesn’t automatically remove rights from another.

It does when you’re a rigid hierarchy lover who believes everything is zero sum

KillingTimeItself,

ah damn, my rights to not go into the bathroom i please. oh no. I’m losing them.

tiefling,

Who the fuck is losing rights over this

Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

I’m taking everyone’s gender

T00l_shed,

Fucking pokemon master over here.

xmunk,

You’re going to be omnigender - specifically every gender that has ever gendered all at once?

Impressive.

Nougat,

GIVE MINE BACK

atomicorange,

Finally! I’m freeeeeeee!

stoly,

lol you’re so accustomed to be able to oppress that you literally think you’re being oppressed if you can’t oppress

andros_rex,

I wonder if that’ll make it legal for me to piss in the men’s bathroom again/have a job in the career I love and went thousands in debt to train for… only mentions students and they tend to forget that trans adults exist…

Oklahoma state law says it’s a misdemeanor and schools can lose up to 10% of their funding for letting anyone (teacher or student) use a bathroom that doesn’t match their birth certificate. (There’s been a standing executive order since 2015 that birth certificates cannot be changed). I have the face and body of a reddit neckbeard, but I was violating the law by not pissing in the same room as my female colleagues and students.

Just kinda messes with your head when you have to commit 1-3 crimes a day at work.

jeffw,

I thought Title IX was about students though?

cannibalkitteh,

It applies generally to anyone involved in a program receiving federal funding.

andros_rex,

Yeah - that’s what I wondering. The law in Oklahoma says anyone in a public school. Our state department of education is controlled by Ryan Walters and LibsOfTikTok, so it’ll be interesting to see how they try to fight this.

bbuez,

Shit I missed that one!

Over the weekend, software developer Travis Brown revealed that the Twitter account used for Libs of Tik Tok had used the screen name @/chayaraichik until late February 2021, and that the same name is the one on the Libs of Tik Tok’s domain registration.

newsweek

At the very least these morons don’t seem to have a care for opsec, not that I think it will come to matter :/. Just imagine the shitstorm con-types would have given some Democrat having a secret targetted harassment campaign.

KillingTimeItself,

hee hee, whoops, don’t tell that group of furry hackers that’s been making rounds recently about this one.

KillingTimeItself,

is that 10% a one time thing or does it stack per incident?

HonoraryMancunian,

Just kinda messes with your head when you have to commit 1-3 crimes a day at work.

Those are rookie numbers!

…drink more water dude

andros_rex,

Part of teaching is peeing strategically - you have to plan your water drinking so that you only need to go during lunch or plan. (The worst is when they make you “cover” during your planning period - usually I could get away with sitting behind the desk and doing a subtle pee dance all hour)

metaStatic,

I, and many I knew, would 100% identify as female just to walk into the girls bathroom at school.

Communal bathrooms are the problem not who's allowed to use them. if you're a non conforming kid PLEASE just use the disabled bathroom for your own safety.

FfaerieOxide,
FfaerieOxide avatar

I, and many I knew, would 100% identify as female just to

No, you wouldn't.

PLEASE just use the disabled bathroom for your own safety.

Is that a threat? ...are you threatening children?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Removed. That is not what it means to be trans. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Cold_Brew_Enema,

Just because you’re a gross pervert doesn’t mean everyone else is, too

Rob,

Then you and many you knew should’ve been brought up with better manners.

metaStatic,

well let me just get into my time machine and ... wait what was your fucking point?

maybe a school should work with what they've got instead of complaining about things that literally can't be changed and putting children in danger. or don't, I don't really care.

FfaerieOxide,
FfaerieOxide avatar

well let me just get into my time machine and ...

... tell your dad (assuming you have one) to pull out.

MegaUltraChicken,

I think their point is that you’re the outlier here. I was a teenage boy in school. I’ve literally never seen or heard of someone doing what you described. Normal people are not sexualizing the bathroom, that’s something you’ve come to on your own and that conservatives have this weird interest in for some reason. Maybe you should stop worrying about people taking a dump and just let people do what they want? The only reason this shit is even necessary is because conservatives want to try and legislate away the existence of LGBTQ+ people.

metaStatic,

sexualizing the bathroom

Jesus Christ it really is all just projection isn't it.

Kids are going to be drawn to forbidden things and boys are going to do stupid shit, of course you never heard of this brand new thing when you where a kid. IT'S A NEW THING. this is just a new rule to mess with and all it requires is for you to make a claim and no matter how much you think it's a matter of better education kids will will mess with it because kids are fucking awful.

FfaerieOxide,
FfaerieOxide avatar

Kids are going to be drawn to forbidden things and boys are going to do stupid shit,

Yeah, like eating a Tbsp of cinnamon or snorting pixie sticks.
Not changing official paper work when nothing actually stops anyone from walking into any bathroom that's unlocked if they really wanna.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

You definitely sound like someone who used to sniff their sisters or moms underwear. Or at least peeked on them in the shower. I hope they never got stuck in a washing machine with you around.

KillingTimeItself,

the only place a teen could ever possibly “experiment” in according to you is a school bathroom, by that definition at least.

There is no other possible place where this could be done, everything except for the school bathroom is a void and doesn’t exist.

geekwithsoul,

“…would 100% identify as female just to walk into the girls bathroom”

That’s not “boys being boys” thinking, that’s the thinking of a future sexual assailant.

MegaUltraChicken,

Yeah this is absolutely not normal, nor something anyone I hung out with would ever do.

metaStatic,

in isolation sure.

I'm assuming you never had a group of male friends because there would inevitably be an older boy with secret info on how to get into the girls locker room without getting in trouble and then dares and double dares and calls of chicken and anyone dumb enough to put on a skirt and try it would be harassed for the rest of their days.

That's boys being boys

geekwithsoul,

Wow, you’re just a sociopath it seems. My condolences to anyone who has to deal with you on the regular

jeffw,

Are you a real human? You sound like a character in a poorly written movie

Ensign_Crab,

Dude thinks sex comedies from the 80s are real life.

frickineh,

“All my friends are sex offenders or spineless followers, boys will be boys! 🤷‍♂️”

Ok bud. Just because you hung out with the cast of a bad 80s movie doesn’t mean everyone acts like that. And sure, maybe some kids will try it but literally no one with half a brain would fall for the excuse that they’re trans with zero other evidence. Actual trans kids aren’t making the bathroom their sole or first place to transition.

metaStatic,

maybe some kids will try it

clearly no one here wants to even entertain that point.

The actual point that all these idiots clutching their pearls missed was that communal bathrooms are the real problem.

keyez,

Good thing nothing in the article or thread mentioned communal bathrooms

BassTurd,

As a boy that grew up a boy and hung out with other boys, your entire view is disgustingly fucked up. This ain’t Porky’s, pervert. If someone calling you a chicken for not being a predator is enough to make you a predator, I’m amazed you’ve survived this long with little to no spine. Quit trying to normalize fucked up behavior.

T00l_shed,

Do they think girls bathrooms have everyone walking around naked and not like… using the facilities, having taco shits and everything?

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

So you admit you’re a sexual predator?

Because I never would do that and I do not know one person who ever would have done that.

The solution is obvious, you need to be locked up in gaol to protect everyone else.

PoastRotato,
@PoastRotato@lemmy.world avatar

The solution to this isn’t ostracizing trans people, it’s teaching children not be disgusting perpetrators of sexual harassment like you and many you knew.

jeffw,

Weird… why is nobody commenting about how both parties are the same?

GBU_28,

And so few ml posters! How odd!

aStonedSanta,

The other party loudly proclaimed they don’t want this afaik so… or atleast associate themselves with that idea based on who they elect.

KillingTimeItself,

if i had a nickel for everytime i heard someone say “both parties are the same” i’d have a few dollars, which isn’t much, but it’s weird that i’d have a few dollars.

If i had a nickel for everytime i heard someone reference “both parties are the same” I’d have a lot more than a few dollars, and i’m not sure why. And honestly, it kind of scares me.

melpomenesclevage,

maybe if this wasnt a fucking election stunt, wecd care more. I don’t expect this to be enforced.

Whattrees,
@Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Biden does a bad thing: See? He’s just like Trump!

Biden does a moderate thing: See? He’s not as left as he should be!

Biden does a good thing early in his term: See? He’s not doing enough yet!

Biden does a good thing halfway into his term: See? It’s just to help the Dems in the midterm!

Biden does a good thing late in his term: See? He’s just trying to appease the people who might vote for him!

melpomenesclevage,

but he’s not stopping he genocide.

if he protected trans rights and stopped the genocide, sure. I might consider it. too little too late, dude.

jeffw,

Which party is speaking out against it? And which party has 99% supporting it?

melpomenesclevage,

neither party is speaking out against it. neither party has stopped funding them.

empty words are empty.

jeffw,

points to all the democrats speaking out against it

I can’t tell if you’re a troll or you just don’t read political news. If it’s an innocent mistake, that’s one thing…

melpomenesclevage,

they don’t mean it. their powerlessness is strategic, as it (almost) always is.

jeffw,

“I know what other people think so you should trust me instead of listening to those people!”

Okay?

melpomenesclevage,

if they meantit, abortion wouk still be legal.

jeffw,

How? By impeaching and removing SCOTUS justices? Dems don’t have the votes for that

melpomenesclevage,

could have done it in Congress. could have done a lot of things. Or maybe the system is just bullshit and will never protect us and none of this matters. either way.

jeffw,

No, you can’t do it in Congress. Like it or no, SCOTUS ruled you can’t.

melpomenesclevage,

then scouts is invalid and laws are invalid, and a thug with a gun is just a thug with a gun; badge or no.

Whattrees, (edited )
@Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

See? He’s just like Trump! And he’s not doing enough! And the things he has done are only to help secure votes!

Edit to add: Also, my dude, did you forget which post this is on? He’s literally protecting trans people with this move but it’s still not enough. Fact is you wouldn’t support him even if he led the revolution himself. He’s not perfect, but he’s done more to clean up Trump’s mess and help marginalized people than any president in history.

melpomenesclevage,

the problem with that is I expect it to revert the day after the election, or at least not be maintained.

Whattrees,
@Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Sorry, you expect Biden to undo it if he is elected? Or do you just mean that it will be removed if Trump wins. Of course if Trump wins he’ll undo whatever of Biden’s work he can. I don’t have any reason at all to think Biden would remove it after the election if he won. Why wouldn’t he maintain it?

DragonTypeWyvern,

Yeah, it’s good, for now. Vote to keep it that way.

And cross your fingers that Thomas has a heart attack soon.

melpomenesclevage,

but no option on the ballot does that. joe is barely more honest than don. guess I’m not voting.

Whattrees,
@Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Jesus Christ dude, do I need to link you the list of Trump lies told in his four years? What had Biden lied about that’s even close to that!? Trump averaged multiple lies in a day and you’re here saying they are basically the same. If you want Trump to win just vote for him instead of pretending it’s some principled stand against Biden.

KillingTimeItself,

damn, gun violence is crazy, as a gun owner i guess i should just shoot myself huh.

(hello mods, hi, this is satire, i’m satirizing, pls don’t kill me, kthnx bye)

AuroraZzz,

Lol. Right? It looks like the bots haven’t gotten to this one yet

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Oh that’s easy, because this doesn’t play into their narrative

Their goal is to stop people from voting this year so that the fascist can win

disguy_ovahea,

It’s 1AM in Russia right now. Wait until morning.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Don’t disrespect the CCP posting.

Ensign_Crab,

Out the gate early with the “all criticism of the party means that the critic is saying both parties are the same” canard.

My only criticism of Biden on this is that he’s had the power to do this all along and is only getting around to it now. Democratic legislators had the power to do more back when they had a majority, but they refuse to wield power when we hand it to them.

melpomenesclevage,

almost like they’re more okay with fascism than progress?

Whattrees,
@Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Almost like the Dept of Ed has been working on these rules for years and the process takes some time and has to be open to public comments and things. The wheels of the government are designed to move slowly. We can discuss if that’s good or not, but this isn’t something Biden decided last week, it’s been in the works for a long time.

And it’s almost politics, especially on the left, is more complicated than one party having the slimmest of possible margins. Did you forget about Sinema and Manchen? Have you already forgotten the fights the Dems in Congress had within the party to get enough support to pass things? If you want more progressive polices to pass than you need to elect even more Dems into Congress so that the few fuckwits in the “center-right” can be relegated to the corner and ignored. That doesn’t work when nothing can pass if even one senator decides to vote no.

Jesus fucking Christ I swear we need to mandate more than one part of one class for how the government works. So many of you out here acting like the moment a Dem becomes president they can just will whatever laws they want into existence.

melpomenesclevage,

so youre saying the ‘good thing’ biden did wasn’t him? cool.

yeah I know how government functions, but you apparently don’t.

Whattrees,
@Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Do you know who the Dept of Ed works for? Do you know who put the guy in charge of that Department?

Biden didn’t directly make this change because he doesn’t have the authority to do that, but he did direct his appointee to do it.

What part of the way the government works did I get wrong? Does the President get to will laws into existence? Did Manchen and Sinema not matter?

Ensign_Crab,

Did you forget about Sinema and Manchen?

How could anyone forget about the only two democrats whose opinion actually matters?

Whattrees,
@Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That’s a good question! But it’s one I ask myself every time someone complains about the Dems not doing enough when they had full control of Congress.

“Why didn’t they pass a student loan bill or abortion protection or $15 minimum wage when they had the chance?” Manchen and Sinema.

Ensign_Crab, (edited )

Student loans: they didn’t even bother trying to pass anything while Democrats had the majority.

$15 minimum wage: there were 8 members of the Democratic caucus who hated workers enough to go on the record as voting against it.

Don’t pretend Manchin and Sinema are the full extent of a problem with the party writ large.

Whattrees,
@Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Student loans: But it was the fact that Democrats couldn’t even have gotten all their members on board for student loan forgiveness that likely kept them from putting it in the bill, experts say. Given the party’s razor-thin majority, the opposition of one Democrat can derail the entire legislation.

$15 Minimum wage: Sinema famously voted it down.

How exactly does either of these reflect badly on Biden? The whole point is that people like you are forgetting that Biden couldn’t do it alone and that we need more Dems in Congress so that people like her can be put in a corner and ignored. A vote for Biden isn’t an endorsement of all Dems. If you live in a district where a moderate Dem is representing you than do your part in the primaries. If you don’t, do your part in voting in better/more Dems so we can religate the moderates.

Ensign_Crab,

Student loans: But it was the fact that Democrats couldn’t even have gotten all their members on board for student loan forgiveness that likely kept them from putting it in the bill, experts say. Given the party’s razor-thin majority, the opposition of one Democrat can derail the entire legislation.

This is speculation for why Democrats didn’t even bother to try.

$15 Minimum wage: Sinema famously voted it down.

Along with 7 other members of the Democratic caucus who hate workers.

How exactly does either of these reflect badly on Biden?

I didn’t say they did. You were trying to blame the actions of the party writ large on two senators. I was correcting you. Nice attempt at diversion.

The whole point is that people like you are forgetting that Biden couldn’t do it alone and that we need more Dems in Congress so that people like her can be put in a corner and ignored.

Yeah, it doesn’t matter how big the majority we have is. Democrats find the no votes to kill progressive policy. I remember when we had a supermajority and gee, wouldn’t you just know it, we had just enough votes to kill the public option. There are always just enough manchins.

If you live in a district where a moderate Dem is representing you than do your part in the primaries. If you don’t, do your part in voting in better/more Dems so we can religate the moderates.

Yeah. I’ve seen exactly how that works. Jessica Cisneros was in the primary in the district next to mine. The national party threw its weight behind the incumbent, Henry Cuellar, an anti-choice, anti-labor NRA stooge. In my district, progressive Michelle Vallejo had her funding cut during the crucial last month of the campaign. This was during the campaign season in which the party did ad buys for MAGA candidates. The party would rather spend money on MAGA chuds and let a progressive lose a competitive race. Your advice regarding local primaries and local elections is useless, and I suspect you know it and are gloating.

Manchin-style centrists ARE the party.

empireOfLove2,
@empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Lawsuit from Florida in 3… 2… 1…

ChokingHazard63,

Finally some good news for once

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