Dropbox is sharing users' files with OpenAI, here's how to opt out

Edit 1 :

@AteshgaRubyTeeth.

If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.

There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.

You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.

If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.

Edit 2 :

@TheFederatedPipe

I’m totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I’m currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I’m using , but I’m sure there are other alternatives, like . There is also , but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.

Cryptomator official website Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)

Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.

Edit 3 :

@danileonis

Don’t forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.

TheFederatedPipe,

I'm totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I'm currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I'm using , but I'm sure there are other alternatives, like . There is also , but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.

Cryptomator official website
Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)

Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.

TGhost,
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Body of the post edited :),
Thanks for your input,

ClydapusGotwald,

Good thing I got rid of my Dropbox years ago.

moonsnotreal,
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If you have to use cloud storage, encrypt the files before you upload them

Lemmyfunbun,

The problem with cryptomater in my mind is eventually with quantum computing the encryption will be cracked. Even if you delete the file its stored somwhere else in their backups. There will be a treasure of good information even if its 10 yearas from now to be harvested.

lud,

encryption will be cracked

We don’t know that yet.

RobotDaniel,

I would recommend proton drive as a great replacement if you want something that doesn’t need a server

Zerush,
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I never opted in, no DropBox, OneDrive nor GDrive.

monsieur_jean,

It's almost 2024 and we still don't have any significant open source project for cloud storage privacy.

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.ml avatar

Nextcloud,
Protondrive,
Bare os self hosted ? Termux + rsync or scp + bash,

Its just an “niche” business the privacy for now, except VPN 😑😑🙄

toastal,

rsync was created in 1996

Link,

Nextcloud?

danileonis,
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Don’t forget Synching, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.

TGhost,
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Yeah true,
Holidays or not, I’m in 420 consumer mod, I don’t think XD. I edit :p

milicent_bystandr,

Syncthing is great!

unlink2,

Personally I've just gone the Syncthing route. No need to really host. It will just sync whenever your devices see each other. Of course this means you won't get all your files at all times.

ExtremeDullard,
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Missing option that I use:

Free Google Drive mounted with rclone and then eCryptfs filesystem mounted on the Google Drive mountpoint.

I get the free space and Google only sees encrypted files.

zaph,

I love you so much right now

TGhost,
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😊 ☺️

TGhost, (edited )
@TGhost@lemmy.ml avatar

not bad too, i will not edit the body with that because i think it can be against the ToS of Google, and if not and that’s become a popular solution, that will be for sure in it then.

You can loose your account so easily with them, so its better to be “reliable” ^^

hairynipple,

As is usual in these cases, this is not legal in the EU and they cannot “legally” do this. However they might still choose to take the risk or factor in the cost of litigation.

sapphiria,
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How is this legal? Isn’t this a violation of copyright law at the very least, plus any other licenses that might apply to the files?

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.ml avatar

i think its a scenario well accepted within the terms of uses…

Recently those of OpenAi changed btw, and that’s very interesting… to read.
They sent the mail the night of Christmas if i’m not wrong lmaooooo

If laws were made for citizens, we would know for now 😆

southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Self hosting isn’t a solution to replace off site storage.

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.ml avatar

you can have a nextcloud without self hosting.
But you will pay with money and not with your private content

southsamurai,
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Yeah, I forget that sometImes.

danileonis,
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You can selfhost Syncthing without having a server, using your daily devices.

southsamurai,
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Which is great, but still does nothing for off-site storage.

You always have at least one off site backup of anything important. For most people, that’s going to be some kind of cloud service. What you use to access that can vary a good bit (as someone reminded me, nextcloud services you can use rather than have it all be on site exist), but syncthing would require that you have someone else willing to have a device at their house, always connected, for it to be a viable pick this that aspect.

Don’t get me wrong, syncthing is awesome, but it isn’t a total solution by itself. Hell, my redundant off site backup is less hassle, tbh. I just swap out external drives when I visit my best friend. I take the most updated one, leave it and bring home the previous one from his place. It’s always a little behind, but it isn’t reliant on connectivity lol.

That’s what I was getting at. If all of your backups are at the same place, physically, you don’t actually have backups, you just have redundant copies. A backup that can be destroyed at the same time as other backups or the original isn’t really a backup at all. It’s good enough for a drive dying, but not for bigger events.

That’s what I was getting at, I just forgot that nexcloud services exist.

danileonis,
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Your smartphone is already an always connected device, and you can manually do periodical backups on external drives which is a good practice in any case.

You can also set which device rules the file modification (sent or receive only as a folder).

I think it’s ok for most of the people. If you have a tons of precious files to save I can agree with you, but I think this type of “off-grid self-hosting” is just the future of personal data management.

520,

If you can self host, you can run a custom cloud instance.

4am,

I think the implication is that if your house burns down, your important shit is backed up elsewhere

520, (edited )

Exactly. Custom cloud instance. That's where you're using the likes of AWS or Azure to run your machines but you're in control of all the software and maintenance shit, just like you would be if you self hosted.

If you can do one, you can mostly do the other. I tend to put some wireguard VPN servers in front of my cloud boxes though for security reasons

Cosmocrat,

Why not just encrypt your data before uploading to the cloud?

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.ml avatar

why return the problem on the user ?

monsieur_jean,

Users are responsible for their own privacy.

Having Open Source projects providing the tools for that is extremely important. But ultimately the responsibility lies in the users hands. End to End encryption is the way. My files should 100% be encrypted on my side, with private keys that I own and nobody else. :)

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.ml avatar

Not everyone can do it.
I agree, but in this society even with that in considerations, corpo have responsabilities and duty…

Don’t misunderstand me, I’m on your technical philosophy. For my self, I trust my self. But society is manipulated with promises, and theses broken promises we have to talk about them, and outloud.

ipkpjersi,

Because if not this it will always be something else.

BananaTrifleViolin,

I deleted my account.

tjhart85,
tjhart85 avatar

Same, it's kind of a symbolic gesture since I apparently haven't used DB since 2018, but still, I cited them sharing files with AI companies as the reason.

TGhost,
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