shantini,
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iOS development is a very male, very white, very straight space.

titociuro,
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@shantini Quite true in general. At work, we have 1 US Latino , 1 from India, 2 from Asia, 1 US Asian, 1 from Russia and 1 from Spain. So it’s not like we keep the gates closed or anything. I’d be delighted to have women on the team… but none have applied! We’re in Palo Alto. Any women iOS engineers looking for an awesome, growing diverse team? Send me a DM!

exchgr,
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@shantini i am trying to change it but i’m only me

RobW,
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@shantini yep 😔

joshua,
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    @shantini One thing I learned that shocked me is that even gay men can be among the top misogynists. I truly don’t understand this. Growing up in the closet and having to put on masculine airs to avoid questions, you’d think at least gay men in my generation would empathize with and avoid such behavior toward women. It’s disappointing.

    shantini,
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    @joshua you’d be surprised, women can also be misogynists

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  • steve,
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    @joshua @shantini There's are a distressing number of successful women who are not that but are entirely dismissive of other women's abilities, in a way that destroys a lot of younger women's professional careers. It is absolutely astonishing to me.

    shantini,
    @shantini@techhub.social avatar

    @steve @joshua yep and it is not restricted to conservatives

    mariyadelano,
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    @shantini @steve @joshua oh my god yes and it is so bad in professional spaces! I’ve been shocked at how many women especially at earlier stages in their careers would actively try to shoot me down and harm me and keep me out of their spaces

    It took a while to find women in my field who I could trust and get a network of people who actually were properly supportive

    But for a while the only people in the business world who actually supported me were all men

    tanepiper,
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    @mariyadelano @shantini @steve @joshua Neurotypicals Vs Neurodivergents is the new front. The amount of times I've had to deal neurotypicals being the problem...

    joshua,
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    @mariyadelano @shantini @steve This is indeed surprising to learn. And it sucks.

    steve,
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    @mariyadelano @shantini @joshua It is almost as if misogyny is a systematic issue in society, rather than an affliction of isolated individuals.

    mariyadelano,
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    @steve @shantini @joshua yep. And yet we all have to deal with it in our own individual circumstances too which is always difficult to wrap my head around

    fahrni,
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    @shantini I’ve definitely noticed that as well. Working to help change it.

    shantini,
    @shantini@techhub.social avatar

    Every time I see a photo of all of the attendees of any iOS conference I die a little.

    mredig,
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    @shantini

    Still tons of room for improvement, but had roughly 10% non male attendance!

    film_girl,
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    @mredig @shantini bro, that’s like, awful. Like, I guess it’s better than 3% or 5% but even by tech conference standards that’s terrible.

    mredig,
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    @film_girl @shantini my mistake. I’m fairly new to the conference scene, but I was of the impression it was good in comparison. I do agree there’s a long way to go, but I’m also happy to celebrate small successes along the way. :)

    film_girl,
    @film_girl@mastodon.social avatar

    @mredig @shantini hey, we’re happy to see more diversity, but in 2023, having 51% of the population so underrepresented, especially given the investment and lip service to making tech less male-centric is really demoralizing to a lot of us. It’s awful when I’m not just one of the only female speakers but one of the only females at a conference at all.

    shantini,
    @shantini@techhub.social avatar

    @mredig can you understand how that’s actually a really exasperating statement? 10%? How is that even remotely close to good?

    bynkii,
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    @shantini little bit. Which might explain the depressing sameness within a given genre.

    ChronRevisited,

    @shantini To say nothing of the iOS development podcasting and blogging space…

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