thomasfuchs,
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io avatar

I occasionally check if Google has cured itself from AI-brain rot, alas this is a screenshot from just now

tricotfeelya,
@tricotfeelya@woof.group avatar

@thomasfuchs it would be from a company in North Carolina…
© 2023 Alden Analytics LLC — Cary, NC

thomasfuchs,
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io avatar

@tricotfeelya yes, my mistake, Google has no say in what Google’s algorithms show you from Google’s index when you google for something on Google’s servers

erispoe,

@thomasfuchs @tricotfeelya Conflating everything doesn't help. The problem here is that Google gives you excerpts of sometimes unreliable sources as results. And has done so for a very long time.

Voline,

@thomasfuchs
Using the same query in DuckDuckGo. The top links all contain Kenya in their list of African countries.

thomasfuchs,
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io avatar

@Voline yeah it’s a choice that Google makes

halfempty,

@thomasfuchs Confirmed. I just got the exact same stupid result!

Beltliner403,
@Beltliner403@mastodon.online avatar

@thomasfuchs Not to mention the cognitive dissonance between advertising environmentally responsible decision-making with their search tools on the one hand, and on the other burning through enough electricity and fresh water to run Argentina for a year to prop up their artificial idiot.

savvykenya,

@thomasfuchs I'm not doubting you, but I had to Google and see it for myself! chatGPT nonsense has SEO'd itself to the top of Google's search rankings

_9CL7T9k8cjnD_,

@thomasfuchs When you question and it about it's , remember this graphic which, by the way, it removes and refuses to answer questions about.

Soyapo11,

@thomasfuchs 21st century logic! A "K' sound like canoe or camouflage? Or Kanye West with the silent K?

lirleni,

@thomasfuchs Maybe þe correct spelling IS Cenya, and we've all been spelling it incorrectly all þis time? (Including þe AI?)

kristen_d,
@kristen_d@mastodon.social avatar

@thomasfuchs is not something needed by a species too stupid to learn from mistakes made less than a hundred years ago.

mullaney,

@thomasfuchs every time you check it, you reinforce the problem. It’s showing you exactly what you are looking for. It’s working as expected.

sheislaurence,
@sheislaurence@mastodon.social avatar

@thomasfuchs As @Revertron mentioned I had a quick read https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/semantic-kernel/prompt-engineering/tokens. My new theory is, most models & wouldn't tokenize letters because of the high cost, basically sacrificing quality for ROI until they find a cheaper way to accelerate , deploying millions of energy-hungry servers emitting a country's to answer mindnumbly dumb questions, or strengthen billionaire hegemony (complementary goals).

pierrenick,
@pierrenick@hachyderm.io avatar

@thomasfuchs besides the obvious, I find “It's always interesting to learn new trivia facts like this.” so hilariously out of place, hahaha.

tasdevilsrgr8,
@tasdevilsrgr8@aus.social avatar
chrisbloom,

@thomasfuchs
That would be hilarious if it wasn't so stupid & potentially dangerous

vandyke4ad,
@vandyke4ad@mas.to avatar

@thomasfuchs CrapGPT

jamesholden,
@jamesholden@mas.to avatar

@thomasfuchs And this is why web rings need to make a comeback.

rticks,
@rticks@mastodon.social avatar

@thomasfuchs

Google was wide to wait on Bard but sadly...Sundar Puchai is a drunk fool

zillion,
@zillion@freeradical.zone avatar

@thomasfuchs Omfg, you'd think they'd have fixed that by now.

servelan,
@servelan@newsie.social avatar

@thomasfuchs Only really, really dumb people think this is Google. It's returning an AI generated response to the human question Did you know that there is no country in Africa that starts with the letter "k"? Put the phrase in quotes and you get Kenya.

datarama,
@datarama@hachyderm.io avatar

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  • thomasfuchs,
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    @datarama Google has a human-curated search index (look up the pagerank algorithm). They just chose to also add bullshit AI crap, so people don’t leave their site and see more ads.

    datarama,
    @datarama@hachyderm.io avatar

    @thomasfuchs I think I misunderstood you; sorry. I agree that the "featured snippet" is an awful idea, and I think it'd be one no matter whether it was pulled out of the highest-ranked page using a classic algorithm or a neural net - precisely because it's designed to dissuade people from clicking the source and leaving Google. "Bard" and "Search Generative Experience" are even worse and I wouldn't use them even if I got paid for it.

    aiquez,
    @aiquez@troet.cafe avatar

    All you never need _ TM

    Myoldpiano,
    @Myoldpiano@mastodon.online avatar

    @thomasfuchs so there’s only Wikipedia now.

    SpaceLifeForm,

    @thomasfuchs

    Recall when google search was a killer app?

    reconbot,
    @reconbot@toot.cafe avatar

    @thomasfuchs I wonder if it's their AI or they found a site with an AI answer

    thomasfuchs,
    @thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io avatar

    @reconbot the fact that it’s impossible to tell makes it even worse somehow

    Untrustedlife,

    @thomasfuchs @reconbot it’s actually very easy to tell. Don’t get me wrong i think it’s stupid too but the link to the website is right there.

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    Revertron,
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    @thomasfuchs Those language models have words as tokens, they can't work with letters :)

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