mekkaokereke,
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Happy !

Day 26: Bama football

Q: OK fine! There's a lot of racism! But we can't do anything about it! You can't change hearts and minds! I've flipped from denial to helplessness! Talking about racism depressed me and makes me feel bad, because we can't do anything about it! So, can you stop talking about it?

A: No, we won't stop talking about it. Yes, we can do something about it. Let's look at one specific example of a reduction in racism, driven by racists themselves! 🙂🙃

mekkaokereke,
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This man is Bear Bryant. Bear Bryant was a football coach at Alabama in the 60s. Alabama was a very racist place.

Alabama had a "whites-only" rule for their team. Black high school football players from Alabama were denied the opportunity to play for their closest major University.

(Note: Yes, I've said in other places that playing college football itself is racist and exploitative. But also, not being able to play college football because of your race, is also racist! 🙂🙃 It's complicated...)

mekkaokereke,
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Bear Bryant is no kind of civil rights activist. He's a football coach, which means he barely cares for white players. 🤷🏿‍♂️ But he knew something no one else did...

Alabama was not as good as everyone thought they were. They were only one of the best in their all-white conference.

mekkaokereke,
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The best Black high school football players from Alabama and across the South, went to California to play college football. But California doesn't even live, breathe, and dream football! Bunch of hippies. Soft.

Alabama would probably smoke USC if they played them. Right?

mekkaokereke,
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So Bear Bryant set up an exhibition game, making sure it was played in Birmingham, Alabama.

The team that was good at recruiting and developing white talent, vs the team that was good at recruiting and developing all talent.

Alabama got smoked, 42-21.

mekkaokereke,
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USC had a Black quarterback, a Black running back, and a Black full-back.

A stadium full of racist Alabama fans, suddenly realized that the SEC was no longer the best conference in football, and that you can no longer win a football national championships with an all-white team.

mekkaokereke,
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Alabama desegregated shortly afterwards, because hate is important, but football is slightly more important.

Here's what the Alabama team photo these days.

Yes, Alabama lost some white players that refused to play with Black players, and so quit the team. No one knows their names. 🤷🏿‍♂️

mekkaokereke,
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Another overlooked benefit of being able to support talent from all backgrounds: Your talent from privileged backgrounds becomes higher talent. Wait, what?🤔

In the front row of the team picture see number 77. That's Big Matt Womack. He's an NFL body beating up on college kids.

He doesn't need Alabama to be a whites-only team for him to earn a starting spot.

He can compete with Black kids. Polynesian kids. Vikings imported directly from Iceland. Nebraska farmland strong kids. Doesn't matter.

mekkaokereke, (edited )
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This is not "Black people are better athletes." That's an incorrect interpretation.

Good football players are extreme outliers of physical attributes and athletic abilities. Winning at football is about recruiting the best talent.

Football teams that apply a filter of race, cannot match the talent level of teams that do not have such filters. A team that refuses to recruit white players, or refuses to recruit Black players, cannot compete with a team that recruits players of any background. 👍🏿

mekkaokereke,
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Alabama football desegregation was not driven by Black players or fans, or by civil rights activists. It was driven by racist football fans, who decided that racism was important, but winning football games was a little more important.

Understanding the incentives in the system, can allow us to understand the leverage points to change the outcomes.

Alabama fans may not have been any less racist after the team desegregated. But the outcomes for high school players in Alabama improved. 👍🏿

johnefrancis,
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@mekkaokereke thanks, that was a fun read

mekkaokereke,
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The NFL has a talent advantage for teams that are less racist in their recruiting🙂🙃

"Your running back should be a Black guy. Black guys are faster and have better moves!"🤡

"Your quarterback should be a white guy. White guys are smarter and better at managing the game!"🤡

"White quarterbacks shouldn't run! They're too slow and have no moves!"🤡

I am not joking. These are really things that people still believe in 2024.

But... the 4 top teams in the playoffs in 2024 ignored all these "rules."

Josh Allen. Josh Allen is a white quarterback who plays for Buffalo, who is known for running.
Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is a black quarterback who plays for Baltimore.
Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey is a white running back for San Francisco.

mekkaokereke,
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Harder to see: A similar advantage is to be had in having the head coach selection process be less racist.

Call me a cynic, but I don't think appeals to decency will result in less racism. I think "appeals to things that the system values more than racism" work better.

So in the case of pro football:
"More racism, but less Superbowl!" Or "Less racism, more Superbowl!" Take your pick!😃

Even harder to see: A similar advantage of being less racist is to be had in every aspect of US society. 👍🏿

kellogh,
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@mekkaokereke oh completely! i explained DEI programs to my conservative family, but framed it in terms of DEI being pro-business. they made an instantaneous 180 and i no longer hear those anti-DEI rants from them

jonathanpeterson, (edited )
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@kellogh @mekkaokereke When it's positioned as political correctness taking jobs from the best candidate, it's easy to dislike. I work for an international advertising holding company. It's REAL easy to see just how critical diversity is in my profession. Messaging and products that don't match the cultures we sell to will always under-perform.

bigolewannabe,
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@kellogh
If you don't mind I would love to hear more detail in how you framed it.

I think similar framing can work form things like Medicare for all and loan forgiveness.
@mekkaokereke

kellogh,
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@bigolewannabe @mekkaokereke yep, i still have the conversation (attached)

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rowlandm,
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@mekkaokereke

I use the term "redefining merit" when discussing DEI.

The first thing I do is use a narrative based approach to show privileged people what marginalised people go through.

I even explain the excuses privileged people use to cut down on pushback.

https://www.practicaldiversity.org/2021/11/05/resource-improving-diversity-and-inclusion-in-senior-leadership-a-workshop-to-help-recruit-diverse-senior-leaders-2/

mez,
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timbray,
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@mekkaokereke At one point I proposed a new adverb that tries to compress the overly-long phrase “perhaps statistically useful but totally inappropriate to use in judging individual cases”: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2013/01/19/Missing-Grammar

It didn’t catch on.

deborahh, (edited )
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@timbray @mekkaokereke oh, like when my doctor says "... but only 1% of women have that* side effect!" 😃

  • you mean: that incapacitating, life-altering side-effect? 🤬
taatm,
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@deborahh @timbray @mekkaokereke
1% is massive. Say 8 billion global, that’s 40mn women. That’s equivalent to the entire cities of New York, London and Paris all suddenly having massive complications. Every single person.

deborahh, (edited )
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@taatm @timbray @mekkaokereke this is what women's healthcare is like these days. We don't know what it is, but here, take this pill…

The hidden cost in pain, fatigue and debilitating side effects is…
¯_(ツ)_/¯

😤

lkanies,
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@mekkaokereke if only most business work had anywhere near the objective success criteria that football does

StrangeNoises,
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@mekkaokereke so it's self-serving... but that's ok because the whole point is, racism isn't just morally bad, it's self-sabotage. diversity is strength and monocultures are fragile.

and maybe with that fait accompli, attitudes can follow. well... working on that…

paulcox,
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@mekkaokereke do you reckon there was any nudging of Alabama fans to being less racist from this? Or too minor a nudge in the grand scheme of things?

mekkaokereke, (edited )
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@paulcox Yes. Because racism is a lie that's much easier to maintain with a little distance. There were at least some Alabama players whose first sustained exposure to a real live Black person was on that team. At least a few of them became less racist as a result of those encounters.

In general, having close Black coworkers does a lot to reduce racism.

Which is part of why there is less anti-Black sentiment among working class white folks, than wealthy white folks.🙂🙃

Seriously. Much less.

jonathanpeterson,
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@mekkaokereke applying this concept to staffing your own company or selecting companies that you work with is left as an exercise to the reader.

morecowbell,
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mekkaokereke,
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@morecowbell

Brutally insightful.

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