GottaLaff,
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'A step back in time': America's Catholic Church sees immense shift twd the old ways

“Generations of Catholics who embraced modernizing tide sparked in 1960s by Vatican II are increasingly giving way to religious conservatives who believe church has been twisted by change…

..molded by plummeting church attendance…reshaped parishes across the country, leaving them at odds w Pope Francis and much of the Catholic world.”
https://apnews.com/article/7638fa2013a593f8cb07483ffc8ed487

bartvdpoel,
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@GottaLaff The good old "Catholic Virtue of Hypocrisy" is making a comeback.

GottaLaff,
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@bartvdpoel never fails

Snowshadow,
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@GottaLaff
I think they are wrong. It's the sexual abuse and the fact that abusive priests are moved to different parishes, shielded by the church, that is making people turn away.
I know of many people who left the chuch for that reason.

GottaLaff,
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@Snowshadow Agree, that’s a biggie

otownKim,
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@Snowshadow @GottaLaff Institutionalized Pedophilia isn't popular anymore for some reason...

GottaLaff,
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@otownKim @Snowshadow Imagine that.

qurlyjoe,
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@GottaLaff
My take is that they’re seeing how successful (in monetary and membership growth terms) all the various fundamentalist sects have been, and they’re missing out. Just as everywhere else, it’s all about the likes and especially the $. In scary times, certainty is comforting, change is not. They want to stop all this change stuff and keep things the way they were.

textualdeviance,
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@GottaLaff A minor point in a near-future book I wrote ~10 years ago is that a traditionalist sect, angry at Francis, split off from the main Church. I now wonder if that might actually happen. Or worse, that they might instead overthrow him and install another Pope Rat.

GottaLaff,
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@textualdeviance The latter seems more likely

jztusk,
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@GottaLaff

'... to Latin Mass adherents who have brought back ancient prayers that mention “the perfidious Jew.”'

Well that's nice.

GottaLaff,
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@jztusk Swell. Sigh.

timo21,
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@GottaLaff I witnessed the change of the Catholic church. In the 1980's I had a job where I moved a lot & went to mass in different towns. Every church was different, localized. But as the human rights orientated clergy that were present for the abuse scandals left, & the new bishops appointed by John Paul II were all arch-conservatives, & that led to the stories in this article. Then the Steve Bannon type conservatives purposely made the church unwelcoming for Human Rights supporters.

GottaLaff,
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@timo21 I’m an atheist for a reason.

WagesOf,
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@GottaLaff Jesus is love, Vatican 2 says we can follow Christ and help the poor, be kinder and less hateful and still be catholic.

"But what if I want to hate everyone who's different and support a religious monarchy where the brainwashed give all of their money to a guy with a private jet?" - rural America

gooba42,
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@GottaLaff Oh good, just in time for an American Inquisition!

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