Nerd02,
@Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

No it cannot lmao. It’s hilarious they think otherwise.

coffeebiscuit,

They had a working search?

Sabata11792,
Sabata11792 avatar

Yes, it was Google.

mrbubblesort,
mrbubblesort avatar

Sure they did. You went to google and added site:reddit.com to your text

brygphilomena,

Inurl:reddit.com/r/subreddit

This let you search only within a specific subreddit

thrawn,

I think site:reddit.com/r/sub works identically, it’s what I’ve always done

Nerd02,
@Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

Have you ever used Reddit’s search? If yes, did you really have a positive experience with it? Personally I found it quite terrible, UX wise in particular. Many people online seem to agree. If you’re looking for something on Reddit it’s actually easier to Google and restrict the site to reddit.com

CrypticFawn,

? If yes, did you really have a positive experience with it?

Yes. I’ve only ever used it (never google) for over a decade. No idea why others had such a bad time with it.

I didn’t even know people would use Google to search through Reddit till a few months ago. I thought everyone just used Reddits own search bar.

Bluskale,
Bluskale avatar

I’ve used it on occasion…. IMO it’s not bad at finding you something related to your query, but it pales in comparison to google for finding something specific.

Kraiden,

Used it? Yes.
Successfully used it? Not even once.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

I have on several occasions copy-pasted a recent post’s exact title into reddit’s internal search and received a mountain of irrelevant results that categorically failed to contain what I’d specified verbatim. I’m pretty sure the fucking thing is just hooked up to random number generator. It’s hilariously useless.

paysrenttobirds,

About as good as Nextdoor’s.

ipkpjersi,

Reddit’s CEO is copying Twitter’s CEO mindset again I see.

jacktherippah,

Imagine if they did it lmao. The backlash would be so fun to watch.

Omega_Haxors,

Pinterest next, oh god please pinterest next.

vxx,

It’s all about training language models, isn’t it?

drislands,

According to the article, yes. I think demanding some kind of compensation from LLM companies is reasonable but this feels like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

MonsiuerPatEBrown,

Rome didn’t start putting up walls like Hadrian’s until the end of the empire. The Rome of Pax Romana had no limits.

FYI

MrTTT,

I mean I get your point but Hadrian’s reign specifically (as well as his predecessor’s and successor’s) is considered to be the high point of the Empire

carl_dungeon,

DO IT.

HotDogFingies,
HotDogFingies avatar
clearleaf,

Both reddit and google will become useless if they do this.

Jackcooper,

Reddit needs google a lot more than Google needs reddit

buzz,
@buzz@lemmy.world avatar

Reddit search functionality is friggin useless. I have to do this in google:
Site:reddit.com my query

If reddit stops google crawling - they better fix the damn search

clearleaf,

I’m pretty sure reddit’s search is basically fake, a stopgap “todo” placeholder that never got done. It always seemed like they wanted us to forget that Reddit is even supposed to be searchable, but now we know that search really is against their mission somehow. Even from the perspective of greed it never made sense to me.

CrypticFawn,

Reddit search functionality is friggin useless.

Wild, cause it’s worked just fine for me for 10+ years.

hedgehogging_the_bed,

Reddit’s search was broken when I joined in 2009 and it never improved. The only thing that made Reddit searchable was Google.

Reddit somehow missed that the value of the was in the comments, not the post. Post titles are easily searchable but searching the comments using Reddit’s own search is still difficult. It mystifies me how badly the people running Reddit misunderstand the most basic things about it.

Rogue,

I doubt reddit makes much revenue from traffic generated by search queries. I suspect People endlessly scrolling their feed are more likely to click ads

andyburke,
andyburke avatar

sad and amazing how true this is.

to find anything worthwhile in Google search you often needed to add site:reddit.com

to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google

well, glad I don't go to those websites anymore...

tigerhawkvok,

People say this all the time, but I search prolifically and have literally never had to do this to get a relevant result top 4.

What are you guys doing, using full sentences with puffery like you’re talking to the Enterprise or something?

dingus,

Have you never searched for a problem where you wanted to hear actual people talk about the solution? If I don’t suffix it with “Reddit” I just get SEO spam/AI generated articles which may or may not actually be useful. Usually I want to know what real people think about the issue.

frazw,

100% agree. While I think it might be easier to get to a relevant result more quickly in certain cases, I’ve never needed to suffix reddit to my searches to find what I need. Often reddit hits crop up but not because I looked for them specifically.

CrypticFawn, (edited )

to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google

Huh? I just used reddits own search bar. Worked just fine for me.

Edit: Man some of you are bitter at the fact that not everyone had issues using Reddits own search. Lmao

wildginger,

You would be a shining needle in a field of hay.

CrypticFawn,

I guess. I had no idea so many people hated Reddits searchbar.

wildginger,

When you know a post exists, and you type its exact title into reddits search, and it gives you inrelated bullshit so you need to go to google who hand you the exact post you knew existed, it annoys you.

When you do that every time you try reddits search function, you start to really hate it.

CrypticFawn,

Ah, sorry that was happening to you.

AtomicPurple,
AtomicPurple avatar

I've found that Reddit's search generally works when searching within a specific subreddit, but otherwise it's mostly useless.

CrypticFawn,

But isn’t that how most people use google to search Reddit anyways? They specify the sub in their searches.

But anyways, I was always able to find what I was looking for even when doing a website-wide general search or when picking the sub. shrug

vivadanang,

oh man this is hilarious.

you’re kidding right? did they fix it right before everyone left in disgust and no one even noticed?

CrypticFawn,

Not kidding. Never had issues with it in the many years I used it. =)

vivadanang,

every single time I’ve tried reddit’s search it delivered results that were somehow worse than not searching at all.

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Idk I always found the result sorting to be, I mean, obscenely bad. I would find better more accurate results searching in Google “r/whateversub” followed by whatever it was I was trying to find.

CrypticFawn,

You could pick what sub you wanted to find your info directly from Reddits own search bar as well though. Or choose to search the entire website.

BudgieMania,

This, for me, is a good example of why the assessments that I've seen lately about how much Lemmy/Kbin may or may not have caught on, and the assessments about how Reddit may or may not have been impacted by the migration, are way, way too early and kind of nonsensical to make right now.

It is important to understand that Reddit is set on becoming a public company, and for a public company, not taking any avenue that could provide additional revenue is essentially only one step below setting that money on fire. If there's a chance that something will make the company more efficient, you are kinda obligated to do it. This will constantly (and increasingly) lead to policies like this, which sacrifice user convenience or add additional friction to the experience, because an experience that is open, accessible, non-intrusive and non-restrictive inherently implies lost opportunities of revenue at each one of those unrestricted points (which is a weird paradox of digital capitalism, in which to make your product more profitable it has to become worse, which flies in the face of the traditional capitalist theory that you make the most money by making the best product, but that's another story and I don't wanna get sidetracked).

Anyway what I wanna get at, is that each person has their own points of friction (mobile becoming app-only, old reddit dissappearing, who knows) past which they would find the idea of transferring platform less intrusive than the experience they would get by staying on Reddit. And the fact that cutting Google off is even in the realms of discussion shows that Reddit is very willing to reach those points and beyond. If these changes pile up and the friction created in the experience by them becomes significantly greater than the idea of transferring platforms, then it's not outside the realm of possibility that Reddit will bleed out slowly by taking actions like this. Time will tell.

Zahille7,

Bro wrote an entire essay to say “it’s a little early to tell, let’s check back later.”

BudgieMania,

They pay me by the word, don't tell anybody

cybermass,

Honestly after I noticed the declining users on Lemmy I started using reddit again, it just has more activity on a lot of niche communities I’m interested in.

However I still use Lemmy almost daily since I like the content and comments here more, and it’s the kind of platform I enjoy, just like the Reddit of old.

Spez is a fucking idiot.

PopOfAfrica,

IMO lemmy works best for the r/popular lurkers

wizardbeard,

Unfortunately. Most of the niche subs didn’t really migrate.

rurutheguru,

Would have been cool of there was a legal way to migrate some of the core content created by users on Reddit to Lemmy. I’m not even talking about media like images and video. Just conversations and opinion posts, guides, help and advice.

Thorny_Insight,

Reddit is a better platform due to the number of users it has. No amount of optimization can make Lemmy better than reddit if there’s no enough users to create content and participate in the discussion.

I’m still not going back though. It’s not essential for me. I already spend way too much time online so if there’s one less platform to mindlessly scroll thru then that’s only a good thing. I don’t really experience FOMO because I don’t know what I’m missing out on.

Dagamant,

They have already made their content almost unusable in search results. I’ve started adding Reddit to my exclusions when searching.

deadcatbounce,
@deadcatbounce@reddthat.com avatar

That CEO has definitely shorted Reddit somehow.

Pons_Aelius,

To do that before the IPO is some next level shit.

ILikeBoobies,

It’s a good time to do it, get really high revenue and IPO before it can die out

But I don’t see how it hurts the company at all, even in this thread you find people saying “yeah but it’s popular “

deadcatbounce,
@deadcatbounce@reddthat.com avatar

Yeah.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

it's absolutely hilarious how badly they've lost whatever plot there was

BluJay320,
@BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

As much as I hate Reddit, adding it to the end of nearly every google search is the only way you can get decent answers anymore, at least without having to scroll through several ad-riddled junk sites

This is gonna hurt both

Varyk,

Dooo iiiiit, erase any of your lingering relevance

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