Banksy Encourages Fans to Shoplift From Guess Since Company 'Helped Themselves to My Artwork Without Asking’

cross-posted from: slrpnk.net/post/1977881

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Banksy isn’t happy with Guess’ latest collaboration.

The legendary anonymous graffiti artist had a directive for his followers on Friday, encouraging them—possibly tongue in cheek, possibly not—to visit the Regent Street Guess store in London and steal the brand’s new collection that features his artwork.

“Attention all shoplifters. Please go to Guess on Regents Street. They’ve helped themselves to my artwork without asking, how can it be wrong for you to do the same to their clothes?”

Awoo,

Based. Shoplift everywhere else too, especially the supermarkets.

youtu.be/wqUJ0go5Pww

youtu.be/oNBOCejGiTU cat-vibing

The_Walkening,

Very cooling looking forward to getting a ripped-off version of artwork with messages like “DAE Putin Gay?” And “It’s a commentary on the police, innit?”

temptest,

Banksy believing in intellectual property 🏴‍☠️

spiderplant,

Is it not copyright infringement?

Also I don’t believe in either but will happily use both to fuck over rich corpo pigs from commercialising my work without permission or compensation.

NotYourSocialWorker,

No since Banksy doesn’t have any copyrights. Being anonymous has it downysides…

techdirt.com/…/banksys-weakass-attempt-to-abuse-t…

So as far as I know he has neither copyright nor trademark to use. Not a fan of big companies either but Banksy is far away from impoverished.

AOCapitulator,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

Copyright infringement is the jaywalking of ideas

some_guy,

That’s a pretty great analogy.

7bicycles,

Did he ever say anything else about it? You can get banksy prints and other stuff featuring his artwork everywhere and they never seemed much bothered about it, maybe he just dislikes Guess

temptest,

I don’t know, I was just making a joke

sculd,

The people that will be affected most are the front line staff who is already working on minimum wages…not the multinational corp

derpgon,

They won’t, they are encouraged to let the shoplifters shoplift, because it’s just collateral.

Nobsi,

In turn the company will seize operations in that area and the cashiers will lose their jobs.
Great job.

spiderplant,

You think Guess is going to let their flagship London store go over some shoplifting?

Nobsi,

Yes, at enough volume in theft they will just close the shop.

acastcandream, (edited )

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    Nobsi,

    You just advocated for it. If you dont want it becoming the norm, why would you recommend people to do it. And yes. They will close even the biggest store, if the lost revenue rises high enough.
    Especially if it becomes the norm and morally accepted.

    acastcandream, (edited )

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    Nobsi,

    feddit.de/comment/2716282
    So what’s this?

    acastcandream,

    I’m not Banksy and if you think they have the reach to cause a small army to financially ruin the flagship store of a multinational company located in one of the most surveilled cities in the world than you have a very outsized opinion of their social influence.

    Nobsi,

    Did i link to a Banksy tweet or to one of you “theft is morally okay”-idiots who don’t understand the simple concept of “if lose more money than calculated > close shop and no more lose money” which is a result of “person on internet said steal is okay because of “anti-capitalism” and “it’s only big bad business” > me steal”
    Either go with the original argument, that theft is morally okay and live with the consequence of stores closing because of loss prevention or get real and just don’t steal.

    acastcandream,

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    Nobsi,

    Oh, good argument. Lemme stoop to your level.
    Nuh uhhhhhhh

    smeg,

    If the company is paying you minimum wage you really struggle to give a shit about people stealing from them

    Flax_vert,

    Why is there a shoplifting community on here 😂

    temptest,

    Because there are shops out there.

    smeg,

    Something to do during the school holidays, I guess

    Flax_vert,

    Fair

    Awoo,

    Because it existed as a community with 200k+ users on reddit until reddit banned it. Everything that gets pushed off reddit will find a home elsewhere, and as long as it’s not hate it should be embraced for the growth of the platform, much like Piracy.

    CloutAtlas,

    I definitely wouldn’t get a Flipper Zero for the purposes of theft. Allegedly it is a legal device that can be re-programmed to disable security tags and open charging ports on Tesla vehicles, which is wrong.

    Definitely do not purchase a Flipper Zero and utilize it for theft or disruption. Its purposes are to open garage doors.

    Aagje_D_Vogel,

    You don’t need to reprogram the Flipper Zero for Tesla charging ports. Just get the Sub-Ghz signal from the internet and store it on the Flipper.

    I definitely never done it myself, of course.

    Werbert,

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fc599cc2-c92a-4188-896c-aea7063159f3.jpeg

    super_mario_69,
    @super_mario_69@hexbear.net avatar

    Remember! If you see someone shoplifting, you didn’t.

    smeg,

    If it’s someone stealing food and basics then yeah, but if it’s bored kids stealing fashion then they can fuck off. Don’t use the excuse of “sticking it to the man” to justify bring a bellend.

    Sethayy,

    What so worst case scenario Walmart family is 0.0001% less rich?

    Literally harming no one, get off your high horse if you got enough money to afford shit (yes even cosmetics some people value)

    smeg,

    I think you’re missing my point. If you have so little money that you need to steal just to get by then society has failed you and fuck the corpos trying to keep you down. On the other hand, if you’re well off enough that you can spend your time posting online from your smartphone about how cool it is to nick designer fashion and cosmetics then you’re probably a poser who believes in nothing but getting stuff for free. I imagine there are a few people upvoting the original comment who take their beliefs quite seriously and spend their time doing real activism for social change, however I reckon most of them are edgelords who need to grow up and realise they’re not Robin Hood.

    Sethayy,

    Nah but I do believe there is a gray area. Sure most people have a probably pretty modern phone and computer, but like is living large??

    I couldn’t get a job today without a PDF formatted resume and attached phone number, I could have to decide between paying my phone bill and spending money on something I actually care about instead of just handing it off to a super company .

    I don’t believe it is even slightly morally wrong to steal just for ones own mental peace of mind, we can probably forgoe a superyacht so some of us to not solely exist for labor

    Grilipper54,

    Companies look at shrink and if the margins are too high, they will close the store. It hurts communities if the store they need to purchase food from closes. This is especially problematic in poor communities where not everybody has easy transportation.

    Sethayy,

    That’d be like a LOT of stealing tho. Avg Walmart pulls in $1mil A WEEK.

    This is even more so in small towns where they were easily able to secure a monopoly, so for operating one store they’re able to be the only option for a whole town - and they’d have to choose to throw away a perfectly functional source of revenue.

    There’s a reason many internet companies are expanding rural, its a larger more spread out market

    Grilipper54,

    People are stealing a lot. Saying it harms nobody isn’t correct. In the twin cities we’ve had a Aldi, Walmart and Walgreens all close within the last year. All of them were located in areas with a majority of people being on the poorer side of things. If people bought their groceries at Walmart, now the closest place is Cub which is about 6 miles away. That can be a 30-35 minute difference if you don’t have a car and Cub is much more expensive. I’m not defending corporations but they aren’t going to stay if people are stealing too much. Look at all the companies leaving in San Francisco and Portland.

    SlyBlue,

    You’d call cops on children lol

    smeg,

    I’d probably just tell them to fuck off home if I was feeding particularly ballsy. Where do you live where the police are well-funded enough that they’d have time to deal with something as small-time and irrelevant as this?

    GoebbelsDeezNuts,
    @GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net avatar

    IT IS MY DUTY AS A CITIZEN TO PROTECT TARGETS BOTTOM LINE

    AOCapitulator,
    @AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

    What, some kids stealing those clothes, of which half that aren’t sold will be shipped directly to a landfill?

    Yeah, we gotta step up our game protecting that shit

    GoebbelsDeezNuts,
    @GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net avatar

    Shoplifting from corporations is cool and good. An opinion.

    Digestive_Biscuit,
    @Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk avatar

    Does he have an agent or somebody who can be contacted? Not justifying the shop from doing this but how would somebody seek his permission?

    usernamesaredifficul,

    Who Banksy? because he has clearly given his permission in the form of a press release

    So Banksy has gven his moral ascent to anyone stealing from that shop although obviously Banksy doesn’t have the legal right to do that and you will still get in trouble if the police catch you but the police in the UK don’t investigate shoplifting less than £200. Although they recently have been told to crack down on all shoplifting so that might change.

    tony,

    But the shop doesn’t have the legal right to have banksy’s stuff either… is it really stealing if the owner of the art says ‘take it, it’s free’?

    Sethayy,

    Well maybe in an equal system here, but guess has more money so they’re our royalty apparently

    MrBusinessMan,

    This is horrifying. There’s no good reason to ever steal from a store, period.

    Five,

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/878/541/e0c.gif

    MrBusinessMan,

    Stars is a banger tbh

    TheGamingLuddite,

    Important to understand that every instance of mugging, shoplifting etc combined is less than half of what’s stolen by employers via wage theft. In addition, wage theft is virtually never punished with prison time, unlike shoplifting or larceny.

    Shirts are not people, not animals, not priceless relics, just commodities. Direct your ‘horror’ at an actual evil that affects your fellow humans rather than a minor loss of revenue from stolen property.

    MrBusinessMan,

    You’re definitely confused. The number one type of theft is people stealing from shops and businesses. It happens all the time! Sometimes people come in a big group and run through the whole store stealing stuff just for the fun of it. You see it every day on the news.

    Wage theft? I’ve never even heard of that on the news at all, it’s not happening every day like shop theft. But it is a problem. I have employees that I pay 8 hours of wages to and sometimes when I look at the security cams I see that they actually spent several hours sitting around chatting to each other instead of working so yes, it happens. But people stealing from the shop is still the worst kind of theft possible.

    TheCaconym,

    lmao almost got me, was about to rant until I saw the nickname

    combat_brandonism,

    shaping up to be an all-time bit account

    temptest,

    These damn commies have no respect for hard work.

    7bicycles,

    stealings a tough job m8

    AOCapitulator,
    @AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

    Horrifying? Really?

    You live such a disgustingly sheltered life that someone stealing fancy clothing is horrifying??

    MrBusinessMan,

    Stealing anything from a store is the worst thing anybody can do

    Awoo,

    lmao good bit, fell for it

    Awoo,

    horrifying

    HAHAHAHAHAHA fuck off mate lmao

    Venus,

    Actually, stealing from a corporation is always good under all circumstances. Everything they have is obtained by theft.

    MrBusinessMan,

    That’s wrong, stealing from a business is never ok. Businesses are what give people jobs and money, and you think it’s ok to just go around taking even more from them? After everything they have done for you? The owner of this shop can probably barely afford to make ends meet. When you steal a Banksy shirt you’re basically stealing food from that business man’s many children. Just because you love Banksy shirts so much. Think about that.

    Everything they have is from theft? Wrong, they buy that stuff from other countries like Bangladesh (where they are also creating jobs by the way).

    commiewithoutorgans,
    @commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net avatar

    Damn nice bit, I had to read 2 times before I decided it was a bit.

    MrBusinessMan,

    How about having a bit of respect for the law?

    commiewithoutorgans,
    @commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net avatar

    chefs-kiss

    SirQuackTheDuck,

    Except when that store is a big multinational that pays their employees the bare minimum for stuff that costs pennies to make but is sold for half their monthly income.

    MrBusinessMan,

    That’s even worse because that store employs so many people, when you steal from that store it’s hurting all of those employees

    obinice,
    @obinice@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m from the UK and I have no idea who Guess even are, so they can’t be that big of a deal. I won’t support them anyway… if I ever see them haha.

    andthenthreemore,
    @andthenthreemore@startrek.website avatar

    A quick search and it looks like the Mike Ashley owned House of Fraser sells them. So double win.

    Draedron,

    Who owned what?

    andthenthreemore, (edited )
    @andthenthreemore@startrek.website avatar

    Mike Ashley owns House of Fraser (it’s a department store in the UK)

    thenorthernecho.co.uk/…/22314678.mike-ashley-cont…

    echo-news.co.uk/…/14637795.sports-direct-owner-sl…

    Swim,

    This is like being in a time capsule from 2022

    prole,

    A time capsule from one year ago? Mate, if you’re gonna use the time capsule meme, you gotta go further back then one year.

    Swim,

    It’s to signify this is old news m8. The article was from last year… Why are you so slow ?

    Alaskaball,
    @Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

    Don’t need encouragement, but the thoughts appreciated.

    h3doublehockeysticks,

    Now that’s just silly. You should be stealing from any store that has a “collection” regardless of whether they used his art.

    Blake,

    Fastest conversion from downvote to upvote record holder

    RobotToaster,

    Will he pay their legal fees if someone gets arrested?

    StarkillerX42,

    No, but Elon Musk will promise to pay your legal fees then double back on it.

    Fedizen,

    Elon Musk will give your info to the Saudi government

    AngrilyEatingMuffins,
    AngrilyEatingMuffins avatar

    Wild how the Nazis out themselves over fucking BANKSY

    acastcandream,

    So if you don’t agree with a multinational clothing brand using someone’s art for profit without their permission you’re a nazi now?

    AngrilyEatingMuffins,
    AngrilyEatingMuffins avatar

    No but super disingenuous questions asked in that tone regurgitated in defense of capitalist nonsense sure are a red flag.

    acastcandream,

    How is what I said a red flag? Are you following the correct thread? I didn’t defend Guess.

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