People often talk about Emacs vs Vim. Every developer I’ve met uses Vim. Occasionally, some of the vim users will say they have previously emacs, but switched to vim.
So where are all the people who are currently using Emacs?
I’m not trolling or looking for an argument. I legit want to know!
nah, evil is what's stupid. vanilla #emacs keybinds are the best. even Linus uses them. said if he ever switched editors that the new editor would need to be easy to remap to the emacs keybinds (he uses microemacs (em))
nah, I'm going to disagree. the vanilla keybinds are the best, and yet so many people in the emacs community recommend against using them and then have the audacity to have strong opinions about them, without even ever having tried to master them or make them comfortable
the best programmer of our time uses the emacs keybinds, and that to me speaks volumes. many other great programmers and writers use them as well
go on about how that doesn't matter cuz to me it does. when programmers and writers I respect the most use them and I myself love them, then I'm going to reply to stupid opinions with force so that others don't fall victim to taking silly opinions seriously
@SequentialDesign@phundrak@alavi@awoodsnet as long as you’re using emacs you can use whatever keybindings you want. The former vim people sometimes say that with evil-mode emacs is a better vim than vim itself. That’s the emacs way — everyone has its own.
@awoodsnet #Emacs has been great for writing, listening to internet radio, connecting to #mastodon and #matrix, managing multi #email accounts and maybe some #coding if I get bored. It's more than just a text editor and can be a #frontend to many great applications.
@0x1de
Emacs people tend to open remote files and terminals from within their local Emacs, not the other way around. This is virtually a non-problem as far as you don't need to connect via serial or something esoteric like that.
@hajovonta@0x1de@awoodsnet Exactly, TRAMP is absolutely fantastic, especially considering the amount of protocols it supports. And I especially love how it lets you keep your local configuration regardless of where the file is located, locally or remotely, unlike vim which config you may not want to modify (unless you want the next person SSH’ing in the server to be pissed at you)
That's an important point that I realized just now: if you share a profile with other people (like, there's a server and everyone uses the "root" to access it), you can't customize the look, feel and behavior, except if you use Emacs. In every other case you alter the config for everyone else too.
@hajovonta@0x1de@awoodsnet Exactly. The same goes for the shell itself, you can customize #Eshell and just cd /ssh:MyServer:/some/path/ and you’ll still get the same look and feel of Eshell.
@phundrak@hajovonta@0x1de@awoodsnet You don't need to customize eshell to get that behaviour. It also works for any file access .. DIRED? yup. M-x copy-file? yup!
Sprinkle some bookmarks on top of that for easy access to remote files ...
@awoodsnet we’re here and this is getting old. It’s not about emacs vs vim. It’s about emacs and vim, and the free hacker culture they represent versus corporate stuff like vs code.
@mykhaylo No worries. i don’t have any problems with Emacs. i agree with your point about the culture. i was only wondering why i don’t normally hear about people talking about how they use Emacs. The replies to my original post have shown that people actually are still enjoying Emacs.
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