French move to make abortion a ‘guaranteed freedom’ gains big win in lower house

Constitutional change could face fight in Senate after national assembly approves measure by 493 votes to 30

France’s lower house of parliament has overwhelmingly approved a measure to inscribe abortion as a “guaranteed freedom” in the constitution, a pledge made by the president, Emmanuel Macron, last year.

But the controversial plan now goes to the upper-house Senate, where it faces resistance from the conservative Republicans and the far-right National Rally.

The measure passed the national assembly late on Tuesday by a vote of 493 to 30, with almost all members of Macron’s centrist minority coalition as well as leftwing opposition parties approving.

Doorbook,

How they are going to deal with people who would abort girls just because they are girls?

CommanderCloon,

Can you link a sourced study about whether it’s a thing in modern day France?

Doorbook,

Couldn’t find any, which I assume a study into abortion numbers and details should be introduced along with any changes to the laws in question.

prole,

So just to be clear: you’ve invented this theoretical issue, and despite there being no evidence for it, you’re worried that it could be real? So much so that you think we need to change existing laws to accommodate for this theoretical issue that has no evidence of existing?

Conservative thought in a nutshell. Creating a boogeyman in their own head, and then being terrified of it.

Doorbook,

When you debate a change of law you need to think what could go wrong. One of the issue in other countries such as Canada and the UK is sex-selective abortion:

independent.co.uk/…/selective-abortions-gender-te…

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3281173/

There is no reason to believe this is not something need to be addressed in new laws when considering abortion.

For example is seems that in the UK clincs are not allowed to provide information about fetus sex and restrict it to genetics information.

In canada, there were clinic that open mainly for people to knwow the fetus sex leading to sex-selective abortion.

cbc.ca/…/fetal-gender-testing-offered-at-private-…

In the US, abortion among lower income was higher than other.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3780732/

Having to abort because you can’t afford it and have social security net, is different than not wanting to have a baby and different than not wanting to have a girl or a boy for social reason.

Therefore, I argue that before a modification for a law to happen, a basic statistical analysis of abortion in the country with a few more details such as age, sex, clincs location, ethnicity and income are essential to create set of laws that support people to make the right decision.

Note, searching for details in France is tricky because need to maybe the search need to be French to find more details.

Buddahriffic,

I mean, if someone would abort a baby just because it’s a girl, they are probably better off not having a baby anyways. I don’t get why you think making people have babies when they don’t want them to the point of deliberately ending the pregnancy is a good idea, no matter the reason for wanting to abort.

gapbetweenus,

Some good news!

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