Even if she was trying to fleece the insurance, which I don’t think she was, I find it insane that we are so upset that someone may possibly get something she doesn’t deserve that we are okay with creating a system where so many who do need it are refused.
It’s the welfare-queen strategy: if you can show that 995/1000 people use a safety net as intended, 50% of voters can be convinced that it’s a fraud-soaked boondoggle
If doing something like this would put you out work for a week to month, maybe don’t do it? How is your back supposed to heal and get better if you never actually rest like you’re supposed to?
You can argue being able to live you life and all that, but yeah, don’t do stuff that will hurt even healthy people and than cry foul and blame something/somebody else and fleece them.
I think you missed my point. I never said she should or shouldn’t have done something that could exacerbate her injury. I’m saying that even if she was a total scam artist, I would rather some scam artists get money they don’t deserve than use that as a basis to block those that absolutely do need it from getting any help.
Any assistance or insurance program is going to have some grifters and a well run one will already be factoring that into how the program is designed and funded.
Herein lies the problem, even people that aren’t faking it, still shouldn’t be doing something like this. Most healthy people would Injure themselves attempting this.
I wouldn’t be so quick to discount her injuries. Ask anyone with a nagging back injury, some days you feel like an absolute champ and can throw a damn tree, but other days you’re bed ridden from pinched up nerves. Thats just the nature of the injury.
I had a friend who got into a car accident, driver drove off a bridge. She’s got a permanently fked up back. But you’d never know it from looking at her. Some days she’s out and about playing football and cycling, other days she’ll take 2 hours to get out of bed because the slightest movement will leave her in tears from her fked up vertebrae.
One picture over riding medical reality is absolutely asinine, but it works often enough that insurance companies hire PIs to follow people around. Or did, before social media and algorithms started doing all the work for them.
She also went to the doctors after the Christmas tree throwing. It’s quite possible that the tree throwing aggrevated the injury and left her in a genuinely disabled state.
It’s quite possible winning a Christmas tree throwing competition was the sole reason her back got fucked up. I’ve fucked up my back just putting on socks so it’s a bit absurd to assume a car accident was a necessary catalyst to an injury she reported after strenuous physical activity involving her back.
Definitely, though it depends on the type of accident. She was hit from behind, so if it was a relatively slow speed collision near a traffic light or junction or something you’d probably be right.
I agree completely. I have a heritable connective tissue disorder that causes me trouble to no end, especially in frequently used muscles, like those in my forearms. I have to be very careful of what I do - not lift too much or grip too hard, avoid too much repetitive motion like typing or gaming, don’t hold things a certain way, etc. Once in awhile, I’ll forget and just do something like I used to, like catching something heavy, and I’ll be fine. Until the next morning, when I wake up in pain. Even then it’s still not awful, it’s the accumulation of multiple events that causes trouble. This isn’t in line with what most people consider a physical disability, so I occasionally get flack from people who think I’m faking. Sometimes I choose to deal with some pain so I can do normal things for a bit, but there’s no way I could do them every day for hours.
My point is a lot of people don’t understand how physical disabilities actually work and seem to love “disproving” your limitations. Especially lawyers fighting against your disability claims.
RA and my wrists are kind of similar, but it’s not all in the same direction. I can push shit around half the day and be fine. Two hours of sanding and I can’t button my pants for two days.
The knee pain got worse throughout the day, but always rest at night. No clue why my wrists don’t, the janky fucks.
You also shouldn’t be doing things that exacerbate it as well. If she has a nagging back injury, nothing good would ever come from throwing a christmas tree, but future further pain. She was caught doing stuff she shouldn’t have been, and likely wasn’t going to therapy either. Theres more to the story.
So let’s just stay in bed the rest of our lives and not try to live a normal life. It’s absolute bullshit that insurance is allowed to shirk their obligations by pretending be investigative journalist or playing doctor.
If you want to dispute a claim, it should be an independent medical panel pf doctors. Not just photos on a website or social media.
No doctor would recommend doing this if you have a nagging back injury.
There is some stuff you can’t enjoy when you are sick or injured, fact of life, sorry. No reason she couldn’t watch and enjoy, or go ice skating instead, lots of options. She choose something that would injure her back, full stop.
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