Israeli settlers storm West Bank village, setting cars and homes ablaze

It’s estimated that between 1,000 and 1,200 settlers surrounded the village, and around 500 stormed it just after midday local time on Friday, blocking all the roads in the area.

According to Abu-Alia [head of the village council], the Israeli military arrived at the scene at around 3 p.m. local time, but did not stop the settlers from attacking the village. Instead, Israeli soldiers allowed them to raid homes, prevented Palestinian residents from moving around and blocked ambulances from reaching the injured, he alleged.

Israeli security forces had informed Palestinian officials that the settlers were looking for an Israeli teenager who had gone missing earlier in the day.

BeatTakeshi,
@BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

What does it take to drop the word Terrorists?

MysticDaedra,

A violent riot is not the same as terrorism.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

Tell that to the people who had their homes set on fire.

ABCDE,

That’s interesting that a thousand “settlers” are rioters but those on Oct 7th are terrorists.

MysticDaedra,

Oct 7th was an organized invasion of Israel by Hamas, a known terrorist organization. They also entered Israel with the express and sole purpose of killing as many Jews/Israelis as possible. The rioters in the West Bank didn't go there to kill people by all accounts. If they had, there would be more than just a single death.

Natanael,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence

moe93,
@moe93@lemmy.ml avatar

Buddyboo, stop resetting the clock to Oct. 7th, the world didn’t start then. Israhellonearth has been terrorizing, murdering, and abusing Palestinians long before then.

Also stop watching Ben Shapiro.

GrymEdm,

You mean like the over 460 Palestinians killed by Israeli fire in the West Bank since Oct. 7th? Facts do not support your attempts to mitigate what the settlers did and have been doing for a long, long time now.

Annoyed_Crabby,

https://monyet.cc/pictrs/image/40759a8a-6554-4f53-bd93-df41c36fc946.jpeg

goferking0,

Really seems like those settler would classify as terrorists by that definition then

MysticDaedra,

The settler rioters were not terrorists by that definition, because they were not trying to accomplish a political aim, they were angry and lashing out because islamic terrorists from the West Bank kidnapped and killed (?) a 14 year old child.

sun_is_ra,

US would have to switch sides first for that to happen. No ally of the US is a terrorist.

sab,
sab avatar

The purpose of terrorism is to generate fear. This is something different, like oppression, displacement, or genocide. The purpose here is to replace people, not to spread fear.

Maeve,

Both seem to apply.

sab,
sab avatar

Possibly, but terrorism is really an understatement of what is going on here.

In the West after 9/11 there seems to be this assumption that nothing is worse than terrorism, but that's an incredibly privileged take founded in the conviction that the enemies of the West are too weak to achieve anything worse when attacking our civilization than to spread fear.

Once you start eradicating an entire population it's not, or at least not primarily, terrorism any more.

Maeve,

I understand. I don't know what I'd call it, to encompass the whole gist. It makes me feel about a dozen different emotions, none of them feel good. Anger, shame, sorrow. The worst is powerlessness.

sab,
sab avatar

Yeah. What is happening is beyond what most of us can fathom, and certainly beyond what we can express. And the feeling of powerlessness is not making anything better.

And everyone feels this way. I have a friend who is working directly with the UN in Palestine, she was working on it before this all broke and she's still doing it now. She says most of her job these days is to counter propaganda attacks from Israeli shell organisations, and that it feels like she's not doing anything meaningful at all. Any individual action just feels too small, and it's disheartening as fuck.

eardon,

Terrorist means you’re waging war with the West without spending a lot of money.

JoeBigelow,
@JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca avatar

Damn

OccamsTeapot,

Terrorists, both the settlers and the IDF.

SuckMyWang,

Why is no one talking about the last part where it all happened because a teenager got abducted? These comments are weird.

OccamsTeapot,

Because this part is more shocking? I think if the last 6 months has taught us anything it’s possible to retaliate to something so extremely that everybody ends up thinking you’re the asshole.

To spell it out: this was a very extreme reaction to the problem, mainly harming innocent people which is playing out against the backdrop of what seems to be a genocide.

SuckMyWang,

What if the missing person was your child? And what if it seemed likely they were the culprits? (Serious answer please)

I’ll be able to tell you actually considered this by your answer

OccamsTeapot,

If they just seemed like the likely culprits I would certainly not get together 1,000 of my unhinged friends and storm the town, burning cars and homes, stealing 70 sheep and blocking ambulances. Because I am not evil or stupid. Shockingly, they did not get the kid back.

Honestly, I would look for more evidence or more likely, tell what I know to the police. This is how you deal with these problems in civilised countries. Where I am from doing what these people did would get you arrested.

If you think punishing innocent people for this IMAGINED crime (since they do not know and apparently didn’t find the kid) is acceptable you seriously need help. What they did is an unjustified crime, and blocking ambulances from reaching the injured would be the most disgusting thing I’d heard in a long time of the IDF hadn’t raised that bar way too high already.

SuckMyWang,

So there is strong support for Hamas from the Palestinian people. Hamas killed and kidnapped 2000 Israelis. In fact, Hamas still has kidnapped Israelis. And somehow, this according to you is acceptable because you’ve only mentioned how disgusting it is for Israelis to block ambulances - nothing about holding innocent people as hostages.

I’m going to make my point very clear. Blocking ambulances is wrong and disgusting yes. But not talking about literal innocent hostages because it doesn’t fit your narrative is also disgusting

OccamsTeapot, (edited )

In fact, Hamas still has kidnapped Israelis. And somehow, this according to you is acceptable because you’ve only mentioned how disgusting it is for Israelis to block ambulances - nothing about holding innocent people as hostages.

Sorry but this is pathetic. Can you find anywhere where I actually said that this is acceptable? NO! Because I don’t think it is and would never say so. Feel free to look if you want to waste your time. So why would you make this suggestion? I think I can answer this too:

Blocking ambulances is wrong and disgusting yes

You bookended this with comments about innocent hostages held by Hamas because you think that no matter what Israel did, Hamas are still the bad guys. So rather than just criticising Israel - which you did do, to be fair - you have to put in all of this “Hamas bad” hasbara as well even though we can all read the story of what happened here. You don’t want to just criticize the IDF and settlers even though they are obviously in the wrong here.

The facts in this case are that a group of violent settlers stormed a town full of innocent people on the basis of undoubtedly flimsy evidence to dish out mob justice for a possibly even imagined crime. I don’t know why anyone would have an issue with just calling it out for the horrendous shit it is and condemning the IDF for letting it happen and blocking the fucking ambulances. Where are your morals?

Also, fyi, Israel has plenty of hostages (aka people held in “administrative detention” without charge). Does the fact you didn’t mention this mean that you support it? Or is this all of a sudden a very dishonest way to argue?

kaffiene,

Proportionality

MysticDaedra,

Lots of tankies/leftists in the Fediverse :(

Eldritch,

Calm down. Not everyone can be Zionist and make disingenuous false equivalencies for horrifically over the top behavior.

Natanael,

Because it’s not a valid justification for attacks like this. That’s the rhetoric nazis used against jews.

rambling_lunatic,

Ah yes, the best way to search for missing people: by shooting up am entire village that ended up having nothing to do with the boy!

SulaymanF,

Collective punishment is a war crime.

Punishing random members of an entire ethnicity is not helpful and only screws over Israel in the long run. These extremist settlers are making coexistence impossible and that’s intentional since they are the group in Israel who are most opposed to any two state solution.

SuckMyWang,

I don’t understand? Didn’t someone go missing?

SulaymanF,

That’s the most recent case that provoked this latest pogrom, but Settlers have been attacking Palestinian towns for years. The Israeli Supreme Court ruled that settlers don’t have to be punished equally as Palestinians for the same crimes.

GrymEdm,

Well for starters it might be because there’s zero proof that Palestinians had anything to do with it. Even if (and again it’s IF) Palestinians had something to do with it, that’s not justification for what happened. Finally, this is just another instance of the increased settler violence in the West Bank (not Gaza), which has seen over 460 Palestinians killed by Israeli fire since Oct. 7th.

kokesh,
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck israel… fucking terrorists. Genocide victim descendants commiting one of their own. Fuck israel.

middlemanSI,

fucking rats

Tamoato,

Armed Israeli Settlers are terrorists. Killing innocent civilians and destroying their property to further their political agenda.

Seems like a pretty clear cut case of terrorism to me.

theacharnian,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

They are state sponsored terrorists.

theMacerena,

Never forget, Israel is a terrorist state.

And the US arms them.

MysticDaedra,

So you would call the Black Lives Matter/George Floyd rioters terrorists then?

kaffiene,

JFC

feedum_sneedson,

I would if they were doing that!

Tja,

Did they kill innocent civilians?

DragonTypeWyvern,

And steal their homes?

sik0fewl,

They would need to be a few shades darker.

eardon,

I genuinely have no problem with people who fight back against their oppressors by any means necessary.

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I agree with everything except the last four words. The ends do not always justify the means.

kaffiene,

Yeah there’s a reason that we have Geneva conventions. Some things are unacceptable, even in war

Belastend,

Nah, we stop at rape and killing babies. That goes for both sides.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Whoa lets hope the people in the West Bank don’t do anything back that would be terrorism and gives israel the right to defend themselves! Get ready to condemn everyone in the West Bank!

TheFonz,

I’m afraid we’ve reached the point of no return for Gaza. Israeli settlers are exploiting Oct 7 for maximum effect and are aiming to settle all of Gaza. I really hope the US withdraws all support soon before Joe is fucked. I bet this is not the legacy he wants to leave before he retires.

reverendsteveii,

This isn’t Gaza and the people who did 10/07 do not have a presence here. Call it what it is - ethnic cleansing.

MysticDaedra,

20% of Israeli citizens are Palestinian Arabs and practicing Muslims. Your comment makes no sense.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Where did all those other Palestinians go?

SulaymanF,

Yes and the ruling government openly is racist to them and excludes them from government jobs. It’s called apartheid.

MysticDaedra,

False. A significant number of these Palestinian Arabs are members of the IDF, and there is no second-class citizenship in Israel. The Israeli government also does not prohibit employment based on race, ethnicity, or religious affiliation. Calling Israel "apartheid" is a tankie talking point and is observably and patently false. Do better.

SulaymanF,

False again. A few token Bedouins in the IDF does not whitewash the de facto and de jure discrimination, or the many laws on the books that relegate Arabs as second-class citizens. Even Netanyahu himself has said that Jewish citizens are superior to non-Jewish citizens and his 2018 Nation-State Law spells that out.

The Israeli military has a policy where Arabs can never be promoted to be Air Force pilots regardless of qualification or recommendations. It’s known as Glass Ceiling.

But since you have such trouble believing this, let me list a few laws:

The Citizenship and Entry Law (2003) bans family unification in Israel between Arab Israelis and their spouses from the Palestinian Territories, Iran, Syria, Lebanon or Iraq. In contrast, Jewish Israelis can bring their spouses over without issue.

The Benefits for Discharged Soldiers Law (2008) allows all institutions of higher education to consider military service – from which Arab Israelis are exempt for historical and political reasons –when determining applicants’ eligibility for financial assistance.

The Economic Efficiency Law (2009) gives the government sweeping discretion to designate “National Priority Areas” and to allocate vast resources for their development, which it does so in a way that systematically excludes Arab communities.

The Admissions Committees Law (2011) allows hundreds of small towns built on state land to select applicants based on their “social suitability”. The law is used in practice to filter out Arab Israelis and members of other marginalized groups.

The Nakba Law (2011) strips state funding from any public entity, including educational institutions, that commemorates the Nakba.

The Expulsion Law (2016) allows for the expulsion of Arab Knesset Members by their peers on ideological grounds, based on majority claims that they incite racism or support terror. That law is not used against Jewish Extremists like Ben-Gvir.

The Kaminitz Law (2017) increases enforcement and penalization of planning and building offenses. The law has a disparate impact on Arab Israelis, many of whom are forced to build illegally due to decades of discrimination by the planning and building system.

The Jewish Nation-State Law (2018) guarantees the ethnic-religious character of Israel as exclusively Jewish, denies the right to self-determination of Arab Israelis, and entrenches the privileges enjoyed by Jewish citizens, while simultaneously anchoring systemic inequality, discrimination and racism.

Keeponstalin, (edited )

Amnesty International has analysed Israel’s intent to create and maintain a system of oppression and domination over Palestinians and examined its key components: territorial fragmentation; segregation and control; dispossession of land and property; and denial of economic and social rights. It has concluded that this system amounts to apartheid. Israel must dismantle this cruel system and the international community must pressure it to do so. All those with jurisdiction over the crimes committed to maintain the system should investigate them.

Amnesty International Report, Human Rights Watch Report, B’TSelem Report & Explainer about how Israel is an Apartheid State.

Arabs represent one-fifth of Israel’s population. Systemic discrimination, outbreaks of communal violence, and the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict continue to strain their ties with Israel’s Jewish majority.

What to Know about the Arab Citizens of Israel - CFR

Arab Israeli citizens are second class citizens including when it comes to Education (2001 report)

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You are correct, but this particular event isn’t even happening in Gaza.

I think we’ve reached the point of no return for Palestine as a whole without serious international intervention.

MakePorkGreatAgain,

Joe is fucked. I bet this is not the legacy he wants to leave before he retires.

probably too late for that

Burn_The_Right,

Agreed. But some damage to Joe’s reputation is already done in my opinion. While I must hold my nose and vote for him, I will always know him as Genocide Joe. This genocide is now his legacy in my eyes.

juicy,

You do not need to vote for Genocide Joe. There are several candidates who have condemned the genocide from the beginning. No issue is more important than genocide.

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, this whole situation in Israel is fucked. But it’s a track that’s been laid down by decades of US policy and the influence of money in politics. Biden is the unlucky president who inherited a millennium of hate that has come to a head. If he tried to stop it, the Israel lobbies and Zionists would destroy him and ensure a Trump victory. This country is so strongly intertwined to Israel and its interests that we cannot separate from them. Notice how Congress is doing fuckall to stop us arming the side committing genocide while also perfectly happy to deny arms to a friendly nation that was invaded and is being destroyed.

US policy is fucked by the greedy bastards at the top who pull the strings.

Burn_The_Right,

Damn your reasonable assessment.

Agreed.

jeena,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

Is this terrorism?

Altofaltception,

Hey now that’s antisemitic

Neon,

The whole Region has just been a cycle of terrorism lately

theacharnian,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

Palestine has a right to defend itself.

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

But doesn’t get arms shipments comparable to Israel.

Eyck_of_denesle,

Even if it does it would be called a terrorist organisation no matter what they do or not do.

01110101,

I wonder if it has anything to do with the missing 14 yo who was kidnapped yesterday, brutally beat up and then murdered in a terror attack?

www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/737250/

(Couldn’t find an English translation)

deegeese,

“Surely there is a justification for this act of genocide?”

01110101,

Burning cars and houses is not genocide, it’s an act of trying to save their child

JimmyMcGill,

How exactly do you save a child by burning cars, houses and preventing ambulances from reaching the injured??

How many children innocent civilians are you sacrificing as well?

01110101,

The idea is to burn enough so the terrorists will let the child go before it’s too late.

Sadly it didn’t work this time

JimmyMcGill,

Right

Because Israeli settlers definitely aren’t terrorists here

01110101,

In other cases I’d agree with you, not here

JimmyMcGill,

Thanks for admitting your inconsistency and bias

Belastend,

That is exactly the intention behind the 7/10 attack.

theacharnian,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s rioting you nitwit. Rioting never saved anyone.

01110101,

That’s just not true

You nitwit

deegeese,

Pogroms are not genocide if you’re mad enough at the victims.

01110101,

Pogroms aren’t genocide no matter how you feel about it, it’s just fact

deegeese,

Pogroms aren’t genocide

I’ll just leave it at that. You are really lost.

livus,

That was a pretty spectacular fail.

caveman, (edited )

By international law Israel is the OCCUPYING force and the OCCUPIED has the right of armed self defense, not the opposite.

01110101,

Kidnap and murder aren’t self defense.

And please quote that “international law” of yours

caveman,

Kidnap and murder are not self defense, but Israel commiting Genocide is self defense?

01110101,

What genocide?

caveman,

Ask the International Court of Justice.

Israel asked it to stop the process and claim there’s no genocide, but the court denied and will keep the process because there’s plausibily a genocide.

01110101,

plausibly a genocide

So you don’t know, you just think that it’s possible?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

No the UN recently wrote a report on it confirming that it is most definitely Genocide. The intentional starvation of 2.3 million people is very clear cut evidence there really is no debate anymore.

Tagger,

The one currently taking place in Palestine

01110101,

Yemen killing 300K of its own citizens is a genocide, people killed because the fighters hide in hospitals and playgrounds is not

Tagger,

And the mass starvation … and the murder of aid workers …

01110101,

The mass starvation is caused by Hamas by taking all of the food for itself, and if those aid workers wouldn’t have helped during the 7/10 then maybe you would’ve been right

Tagger,

it must be nice for you to live in such a clear world with no grey areas. The 7th October attacks were horrific and barbaric and brutal and what the Israeli state are currently doing is at least as horrific and barbaric and brutal.

01110101,

Tell me one thing that’s done that isn’t a direct result of Hamas’s actions

caveman,

The Nakba in 1948 where Israel stole 46% of the land.

Or the Jewish Terrorist group Irgun bombing the British King David Hotel to hide proof that Jewish terrorism was Being financed by Jewish allies of England.

Source: “the Jewish paradox” from Nahum Goldmman, founder of the World Jewish Congress and ex president of the World Zionist Organization

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

Irgun later went together with another Jewish Terrorist group called Stern Group to form IDF.

"Following the establishment of the State of Israel during the 1948 Palestine war, the Irgun began to be absorbed into the newly created Israel Defense Forces. Conflict between the Irgun and the IDF escalated into the Altalena affair, and the Irgun did not formally disband until January 12, 1949. The Irgun was a political predecessor to Israel’s right-wing Herut (or “Freedom”) party, which led to today’s Likud party.[15] Likud has led or been part of most Israeli governments since 1977. "

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

And their leader Menachin Begin later formed Likud, the party of Naziniahu

goferking0,

Israel has been treating them like shit since they were founded, so no not a direct result

caveman,

UN General Assembly resolution A/RES/38/17 (22/11/1983), page 186:

“2. *Reaffirms *the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for their independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, *apartheid *and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle;

  1. *Reaffirms *the inalienable right of the Namibian people, the Palestinian people and all peoples under foreign and colonial domination to self-determination, national unity and sovereignty without foreign interference;”

Source: jewishvirtuallibrary.org/un-general-assembly-reso…

undocs.org/A/RES/38/17

01110101,

No one is under domination in any way, the Gaza strip has had all of its money, electricity and food come through Israel payed by the Israeli taxpayer, they have 36 hospitals for 2.5 million people, and in about 20 years they grow in about 10x the population

Where is the domination here?

caveman,

Palestine is composed of Gaza, West Bank and other terrories.

Israel is stealing land continuously from West Bank and putting settlers illegally there. It’s a war crime to put civilian population in occupied Territory.

And I didn’t even mention the illegally annexed territory in 1967 and the murder in 1948 to steal the land (Jews had bought 7% of the land up to 1947 and stole more around 46% with the Nakba).

SoleInvictus,

El oh fucking el. Even if any of that was true (which is isn’t. You’re on the Internet, are you unable to look things up?), it not only doesn’t disprove the previous point, it actually supports it.

01110101,

Wikipedia is right there, just walk on down.

And how does it support it? Does sending unlimited amounts of money, food and medicine (even during war) mean domination?

RedAggroBest,

“Look at how those prisoners get all their resources from the prison guards! I don’t see the lack of freedom”

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Do they not realize that Arbeit Macht Frei?

caveman,

Before anyone wastes time answering this guy, his Account is just 4 hours old. Troller

01110101,

Or maybe an AI bot

caveman,

Make me a 100 words tutorial on how to create a Risc V processor with Verilog

01110101,

Does not compute

goferking0,

Hasbara trying to get into the fediverse

TokenBoomer,

01011001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110000 01101100 01100001 01101110 01110100

Burn_The_Right,

Translation: you are a plant

Agreed! His account is hours old and is already adamantly defending genocide.

Aleric,

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    01110101,

    There were people for all over the world in the Nova festival, why couldn’t you be there instead?

    reverendsteveii,

    important note - the west bank is not gaza and Hamas has never been in charge in the west bank. the only thing that makes this lynch mob feel justified in its violence is the race of its victims, and the only thing that makes them feel confident they’ll get away with it is that the state of Israel sent armed men to protect them while they carry out their terrorism. This makes Israel an openly-racist terrorist state.

    01110101,

    Just a couple of mistakes in your monolog:

    1. While the West Bank is not Gaza, there are a lot of Hamas operands there and terror attacks in the name of Hamas happen there a lot
    2. The Israeli army and border patrol is attacked on a daily bases by the settlers there, second only to the Arab terrorists there
    3. Terror attack means that there was apolitical motive, which there was none, it was an attempt to rescue a 14 yo boy kidnapped yesterday (who’s beat up body was found today)
    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Could you respond to this point please (from the comment you responded to)…

    the state of Israel sent armed men to protect them while they carry out their terrorism.

    Natanael,

    There’s something called the proportionality principle. Even if your claims are true, this would be a damning admission of crimes against humanity.

    Olgratin_Magmatoe, (edited )

    it was an attempt to rescue a 14 yo boy kidnapped yesterday (who’s beat up body was found today)

    Bullshit. Setting cars and homes on fire, stealing sheep, shooting people, and blocking ambulances isn’t a rescue attempt.

    Tryptaminev,

    It’s not a lynch mob. It is a genocidal onslaught for capturing land. This is not some emotional reaction. It is a decade lasting strategy of ethnic cleansing carried out by state supported Israeli militias, often directly aided by the formal Israel army in an occupied territory.

    We only now get more attention to it, because of the 07. October, but this has been happening for decades and it only ever got worse over the years, because the US and western allies have actively endorsed this. They endorsed this by saying that this is illegal and shouldn’t happen, while singing off on the next billions of military aid and arms deals.

    orrk,

    no, this specific event is a lynch mob, the general situation is a genocide

    caveman,

    UN General Assembly resolution A/RES/38/17 (22/11/1983), page 186:

    “2. *Reaffirms *the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for their independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, *apartheid *and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle;

    1. *Reaffirms *the inalienable right of the Namibian people, the Palestinian people and all peoples under foreign and colonial domination to self-determination, national unity and sovereignty without foreign interference;”

    Source: jewishvirtuallibrary.org/un-general-assembly-reso…

    undocs.org/A/RES/38/17

    IndustryStandard,

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/68328c92-f3ab-45e2-8b6b-7afe25833f15.png

    Burn_The_Right,

    This year I learned that Israelis are inhumane genocidal monsters and should be treated as such.

    assassin_aragorn,

    The settlers, yes. Generic Israelis, no. The settlers have all but shed their “innocent civilian” status. But there are legitimately a lot of innocent civilians still that are not the enemy.

    The IDF and settlers are absolutely genocidal monsters that should be treated as terrorists and dealt with accordingly though, I totally agree.

    gmtom,

    Okay, now bring up stats for what percentage of Israelis support zionism.

    orrk,

    not all israeli?

    FordBeeblebrox,

    Let’s see how many good apples are speaking out against the bad ones

    Tryptaminev,

    Generic Israelis are largely in full support of this. The settler terror has been going on for decades. It was continued by every Israeli government. It doesn’t matter if Likud and other fascists, or centre or centre-left. Every Israeli government in the past 30 years was voted to continue this.

    The Israeli people as a whole bear full responsibility for this. As is always pointed out, Israel is “the only democracy in the Middle East”. If that is true, then the majority of voting aged Israeli citizens is fully responsible for the settler terrorism.

    Only those that speak out against it showed that they do not want to be complicit in this. And these are the Israeli people belittled, systematically silenced and accused of being “antisemitic” in western countries. They deserve our full support and highest respect.

    kaffiene,

    Generalisations are dangerous.

    Burn_The_Right,

    So is genocide.

    Belastend,

    Generalizations are what leads to genocide.

    kaffiene,

    No one is arguing otherwise but enjoy pummeling that strawman

    orrk,

    the genocide of calling a genocide, a genocide?

    kaffiene,

    What the actual fuck?

    orrk,

    oh, ya just got an editorial note that I’m not to use the words “genocide” “ethnic cleansing” and “occupied territory” in relation to a certain state in the Middle East

    kaffiene,

    I hope you’ve enjoyed talking to yourself

    orrk,

    wooosh

    kaffiene,

    No

    orrk,

    dosn’t change the wooosh

    FenrirIII,
    @FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

    Not all of them, but the IDF and government are abominable.

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